China's SSN deployment threatens India's second-strike capability

[bengalraider]

Kunal i think what you are suggesting is akin to a arsenal ship, these ships have previously been planned by the U.S as well. fearsome massive barrage ships carrying more than 100 LACMS for a barrage at the enemy.

 

[Yusuf]

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And why is it that so many on DFI are in love with Putin?

Cold War mentality. Ask them where would they like to migrate if they could,Russia or US? 3 million in the US. How many in Russia?

Most Indians left leaning but even the commies in India who hate the US prefer US. Hypocrisy.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Similar is concept, But unlike Arsenal these are manned and have ICBMs, Lets say based on Delhi class Hull ..

Kunal i think what you are suggesting is akin to a arsenal ship, these ships have previously been planned by the U.S as well. fearsome massive barrage ships carrying more than 100 LACMS for a barrage at the enemy.

 

[Samar Rathi]

Cold War mentality. Ask them where would they like to migrate if they could,Russia or US? 3 million in the US. How many in Russia?

Most Indians left leaning but even the commies in India who hate the US prefer US. Hypocrisy.

Well i agree here as living in USA would be more easy than Russia due to language with lots of common trends.

 

[DivineHeretic]

Similar is concept, But unlike Arsenal these are manned and have ICBMs, Lets say based on Delhi class Hull ..

Can't comment about such a radical weapon system, But if massed firepower is what the Navy deems necessary to influence the battle in our favour, then a ship in the Ticonderoga C.G. is an option worth considering.

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With 122 VLS launchers, it can very well overwhelm an entire enemy battlegroup, or decimate a fortified coastal town, or both in a single salvo.

 

[t_co]

Cold War mentality. Ask them where would they like to migrate if they could,Russia or US? 3 million in the US. How many in Russia?

Most Indians left leaning but even the commies in India who hate the US prefer US. Hypocrisy.

This argument gets rolled out way too much given its blatant illogic. Where people want to live is may or may not be determined by what government rules that country. People can oppose a government and still live in a country because of other reasons (economic, social, religious, etc.). If you want proof, just go to an expat bar in Shanghai sometime - you'll find an almost universally negative opinion of the CPC.

As for DFI's sympathy for Putin, much of it arises from a desire for multipolarity in the international system, as DFIers (correctly) perceive that the only way to get something even resembling a fair deal from Russia, the US, China, the EU etc is if those actors are counterbalancing each other in the international system.

 

[laughingbuddha]

Be like the Indians. Need for endurance and range resulted in the development of the Arihant class SSBN (later to be re-designated SSN/SSGN) albeit with russian help. The follow on Arihant-Ii will be the future designate SSBN.
SSKs for littoral patrol such as the Scorpene which are being built in India will train Indian techs in conventional sunmarine development.

 

[DBF1954]

Today South Korea is in shipbuilding among the top three nations in the world, while most ships built in China during the 1960's were still made from wood like a 1000 years ago. China did start from close to zero and had a Cultural Revolution and all kind of disruptions since then as well as no dollars to import technology, that's why it took such a long time. South Korea doesn't need to train engineers, they have them, and they have dollars too.

Beside, today's Chinese nuclear submarines barely reach the level of 1970 if compared with the US. China didn't catch up so far, they are still limping far behind advanced nations when it comes to submarines. If 40 years behind is not far what is your definition of far behind? :cool2:

 

[Kunal Biswas]

See, My view is based on placing ICBM or IRBMs, It leaps over Ticonda`s firepower ..

The system is more for strategic targets then tactical ..

Can't comment about such a radical weapon system, But if massed firepower is what the Navy deems necessary to influence the battle in our favour, then a ship in the Ticonderoga C.G. is an option worth considering.

With 122 VLS launchers, it can very well overwhelm an entire enemy battlegroup, or decimate a fortified coastal town, or both in a single salvo.

 

[bengalraider]

while we dither and debate they build, i must say i admire the Chinese for their discipline and vision.

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[no smoking]

Today South Korea is in shipbuilding among the top three nations in the world.

Building civilian ships are completely different story.

South Korea doesn't need to train engineers, they have them, and they have dollars too.

But they have to ask the foreigners to train their engineers on the processing technologies which they have never accessed in their civilian ship building.

And they have the dollars to assemble the submarine, but still far away from building a submarine industry.