China's J-15 Carrier-Based Fighter is Inferior to Russian Su-33 fighter: Russia

[Oracle]

haha, you should just visit northeast china and Russia far east.......Russia's far east is not just "decling", but "dying" with lots of abandoned towns and cities.

This is because, more and more Russians are moving to Urban cities nowadays, plus Russia's population is on the decline.

Russia's population(2010): 139,390,205
China's population(2010): 1,330,141,295

Source: https://www.cia.gov/library/publica...ussia&countryCode=rs&regionCode=cas&rank=9#rs

What a way to hijack a thread by putting nonsense logic.

 

[badguy2000]

Sorry mate, we do not want to be Subjects being ruled by a King in China. We are Citizens, and would like to keep our Citizenship of India. Got the difference?

in fact, CHina is now annoyed by the illegal immigants from poorer countries, mainly from Africa ,southeast Asia and South Asia.

 

[SHASH2K2]

hahahahahahahahaha....go on ,guy. yeah,

according to you odd logic
over 50% of india's GDP is service section while only 40 of CHina's GDP is service seciton. so india is more advanced while CHina is backward....hahaha.

guy, in 1980s, Japanese service section was much less than USA,UK,France and German,but at that time, Japan asskicked all of those .

Do you chinese have fetich for A** . Today only I read it at least 5 time.
A**kicking, A**licking.
Guys Beware of Chinese . All they are looking for is your A** .

 

[Yusuf]

Very soon I will be kicking some a** here.

 

[SHASH2K2]

 

[SHASH2K2]

In April 13, in the port city of Tianjin about 130- KM away from Beijing, China showed off its 4th Generation J-10 aircraft to military attaches of about 50 countries it could possibly export to. 9 days later as per Strategy page reports it was running to cover up the 2nd crash of the J-10 fighter that became public in the last two years.

The 22 April crash became public because a senior colonel had died in the crash and the funeral became too big to keep the story hushed. The news report also claims that the design of the 200-odd J-10s produced has not worked out as desired by its developers.

The crash and doubts over its design also comes as a set back to Pakistan, which was hoping to buy 36 J-10 in a deal worth US$1.4 billion has also been concluded reports China's English Peoples Daily. In the past it has exported fighter aircraft to Iran, Myanmar, Bangladesh and Pakistan. However, the pitfalls of reverse engineering without paying royalty and truly understanding the technology are high accident rates, a fact that China has hushed up with its lack of media freedom.

The first flight of the J-10 begun took place in 1998. It is the most advanced 4th Generation aircraft to be built by China. However, Fighter-Planes.com reports the development of J-10 has proven to be torturous. The prototype was rumoured to have first flown in 1996, but the project suffered a serious setback in late 1997 when the 02 prototype lost control and crashed, as the result of certain system failure, presumably with either the FBW system or the engine.

If the reports pertaining to the faulty design of the fourth generation fighter are serious enough, it will put the Chinese plans to replace the obsolete J-7 fighter and Q-5 attack aircraft in a limbo. With 2,000 combat aircraft China has the 3rd largest air force in the world. The first flight of the J-10 begun took place in 1998. It is the most advanced 4th Generation aircraft to be built by China. However, Fighter-Planes.com reports the development of J-10 has proven to be torturous. The prototype was rumoured to have first flown in 1996, but the project suffered a serious setback in late 1997 when the 02 prototype lost control and crashed, as the result of certain system failure, presumably with either the FBW system or the engine.



If the reports pertaining to the faulty design of the fourth generation fighter are serious enough, it will put the Chinese plans to replace the obsolete J-7 fighter and Q-5 attack aircraft in a limbo. With 2,000 combat aircraft China has the 3rd largest air force in the world.
http://weapons.technology.youngester.com/2010/05/report-china-hiding-its-j-10-crashs.html

Example of quality of chinese planes.

 

[tony4562]

It is a well-known fact that western collectors/enthusiasts prefer chinese made MIGs over same planes made in the soviet union due to better craftsmanship. Also, people who have boarded warships made by Russia, India and China, have noted how much better the welding job is done on the chinese ships than on their counterparts.

This tells you that the perceived bad quality of chinese weapons is nothing but prejudice.

 

[SATISH]

It is a well-known fact that western collectors/enthusiasts prefer chinese made MIGs over same planes made in the soviet union due to better craftsmanship. Also, people who have boarded warships made by Russia, India and China, have noted how much better the welding job is done on the chinese ships than on their counterparts.

This tells you that the perceived bad quality of chinese weapons is nothing but prejudice.

Well The Collectors prefer Chinese F 7 because it is cheaper and has spares availability unlike the Soviet MiG 21. And Welding doset say a lot about the Ships quality of build. You are an amateur to this field I guess.

 

[Rage]

It is a well-known fact that western collectors/enthusiasts prefer chinese made MIGs over same planes made in the soviet union due to better craftsmanship. Also, people who have boarded warships made by Russia, India and China, have noted how much better the welding job is done on the chinese ships than on their counterparts.

This tells you that the perceived bad quality of chinese weapons is nothing but prejudice.

A true amateur.

I could show you pictures of China's weld quality, indeed on some of its latest built J-10's, that would boggle your mind.

If you cared to search them on the net, you'd find them.

Nevertheless, that is a topic for another day and another discussion.

Soviet spares have traditionally been the reason for why western 'collectors' have preferred less-capable Chinese models.

I don't know what you refer to, when you say the following: "Also, people who have boarded warships made by Russia, India and China, have noted how much better the welding job is done on the chinese ships than on their counterparts". An example of your prejudice?

 

[tony4562]

Check out the welding quality on Dehli 76mm gun mount

 

[SHASH2K2]

Check out the welding quality on Dehli 76mm gun mount

where is your so called quality? I am unable to find it .

 

[Ray]

I have not quite followed.

So, Chinese equipment are good only for Collectors?