China's High Speed Rail Network

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  1. Koji

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    China will export advance high-speed rail technology to U.S.

    http://www.genewscenter.com/content/detail.aspx?ReleaseID=9022&NewsAreaID=2

    GE and China MOR Sign Strategic MOU to Advance High-Speed Rail Opportunities in the U.S.
    Partnership Positions GE as first U.S. High-Speed Rail Locomotive Manufacturer

    Erie, Pa., USA and Beijing, China (Nov. 17, 2009) - GE and China’s Ministry of Railways today announced that they signed a memorandum of understanding (MOU) to jointly advance high-speed rail (HSR) opportunities in the United States. This collaboration will allow GE Transportation to be the first U.S. locomotive manufacturer to more effectively compete for high-speed rail projects against global competitors. In addition, the partnership would accelerate GE’s passenger rail technologies and create in the near future up to 150 high technology jobs in the U.S. The announcement was made as part of "GE's Clean Technology Week in China" activities.

    Lorenzo Simonelli, President and CEO of GE Transportation said, “China is a vital partner to GE Transportation’s future growth, and we find that China’s Ministry of Railways and GE share a common goal – driving high-speed rail technology development more quickly and broadly. We look forward to pursuing this collaboration.”

    Tim Schweikert, President of GE Transportation China, said, “High-Speed Rail in the U.S. and in markets worldwide is a significant opportunity for infrastructure and business growth. With the signing of today's framework agreement, GE and China’s Ministry of Railways have provided the basis for a cooperation-focused framework that will enhance economic development, create new jobs and promote research and development for high-speed railway technology.

    “While GE currently is the world leader in locomotive diesel-electric and electronic control systems technology, China currently is a leader in high-speed rail technology for speeds of 220 miles per hour. Working together, both parties could develop the best solutions faster to serve America’s high-speed rail needs for many years to come.”

    More than $13 billion will be spent over the next five years to support higher- and high-speed rail infrastructure development in the United States. Over the next three years, China will invest about $300 billion into its railways infrastructure, expanding its network by more than 20,000 kilometers, including 13,000 kilometers of track designed for high-speed trains capable of traveling up to 220 miles per hour.

    GE currently is working with China’s largest diesel locomotive manufacturing company, CSR Qishuyan Locomotive Co., Ltd., to provide China’s Ministry of Railways with the most technologically advanced, fuel-efficient and low-emissions diesel-electric, heavy-haul locomotive available to date. More than 100 of these locomotives already have been placed in revenue service by the MOR.

    This current project as well as past projects in cooperation with China’s Ministry of Railways have sustained and created high technology manufacturing jobs in the U.S. for American workers to manufacture and assemble key components essential to these types of projects.

    The signing of the framework agreement on high-speed railway cooperation reflects a partnership expansion between GE and China’s Ministry of Railways and has the potential for 3,500 U.S. jobs to support HSR development. By terms of the framework agreement at least 80% of the content of any potential high-speed locomotives or signaling equipment would be sourced from U.S. suppliers, and all final assembly would be performed in the U.S.
     
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    The narrator sounded like he was sleepy. My first ride on such a "bullet train" was a trip from Tokyo to Kyoto city in late 1990s. I never dreamed it could be possible some day in my life to take the type of travel in China. Incredible!
     
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    Hahahahah yea, all the tourists have only taken that route. Do you remember how much you paid for that ride? Also did you take it to Osaka?
     
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    Very impressive! China has made strides in rail technology. The Beijing-Tianjin high speed rail line is a model not just for railways throughout China, but for Indian railways and railways in the subcontinent as well.
     
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    So GE is exporting their advanced high-speed locomotives to China --- got it.
     
  10. rockdog

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    Afaik, 40 GE's locomotives are mainly used in Tibet railway, since the railway is not electricalized.
     
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    well, in 5 years,12000 KM long high speed railways is to be built in china and high-speed railway net will be formed.

    such a net will have great impact on the life-style of CHinese.

    to 600-1000 KM long trip , high speed railways have great advantages to flights.

    let me imagine what the life will be like ,if it just takes you 2 hours from Delhi to Bombay?
    you can easily dring a cup of tea in Bombay at 10 oclock in the morning by HSR after you have
    breakfast in Delhi.
     
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    It is not easy as you think. It should also be economical than a flight. If the bullet train costs 50% more than a flight when both take same time for travel, then I think people will opt for the flight. You need scale to make bullet trains work otherwise it will not work.
     
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    Usually flights don't cost more than 50%, especially if you include taxi fares to and from your destination alongside the hefty tax imposed to air flight.
     
  15. rockdog

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    ...

    CSR’s overseas business continues to grow, with the backlog value reaching RMB 3.552 billion

    ....

    Signed a subway project contract (18 trains,108 carriages) with Bombay,
    India, which represents the first time export of whole rapid transit vehicles

    http://www.csrgc.com.cn/ens/uploadfiles/tzzgx/tzzhd/20080925001736247.pdf
     
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    I thought the Mumbai metro was going to use the Bombardier MOVIA, like the Delhi metro. Can anyone elaborate on the Chinese coaches technology, i for one smell a rat in this deal. Bombardier has started manufacturing state of the art MOVIA subway trains at it's plant in Savli in Gujarat, these must be better than getting subway systems from China.Even Chinese subways in Shenzhen , Guangzhou and shanghai use MOVIA systems.I'm attaching a PDF on Bombardier India for your reference.
     
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    Thats cool man, @ bengalraider.
    while India is exporting to China then they are coping them and selling back to India?
    What a pitty?
     
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    bengalraider DFI Technocrat Stars and Ambassadors

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    That's the thing the entire import of subway coaches/trains makes no sense when you have Indians making world-class coaches in Gujarat(albeit Indians with French/swiss technology) , Gujarat is practically next door to Mumbai, someone get the CAG onto this ;this deal needs to be stopped.
     
  19. Koji

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    It's a signed and done deal, nothing can be done without breaking contract.
     
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    True !However we can make sure that whoever signed this deal and approved it never signs any such deal again(get him/her out of any post with any government agency). this deal has not been reported in Indian news so far that's what makes it even more suspicious.
     
  21. Koji

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    Hundreds of these deals occur on a month basis! China is not India's largest trading partner for nothing..I don't expect any form of media to report on the mundane.
     

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