China warns Japan not to 'play with fire' in South China Sea

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BEIJING: China on Thursday warned Japan against "playing with fire" in the contested waters of the South China Sea, after Tokyo announced it may patrol alongside the US in the region.

China also sent fighter planes for the first time over a strait near Japan on Monday as part of a group of more than 40 jets headed to train in the West Pacific.

The move followed remarks by Japanese defence minister Tomomi Inada this month that Tokyo would increase its engagement in the South China Sea through joint training with the US Navy, exercises with regional navies and capacity-building assistance to coastal nations.

The Chinese defence ministry said the aim of the announcement was "to mess up the South China Sea situation and try to gain interests from the troubled waters."

"If Japan wants to conduct any joint patrol or joint exercises in waters administered by China, it is just like playing with fire, and the Chinese military will not sit and watch," ministry spokesman Yang Yujun told a regular press briefing.

Beijing asserts sovereignty over almost all of the South China Sea, dismissing rival partial claims from its Southeast Asian neighbours. It rejects any intervention by Japan in the waterway.

In recent months Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe has criticised China for rejecting a July ruling by an international tribunal, which said Beijing's extensive claims to the waters had no legal basis.

Tokyo, a key US ally, is also strengthening defence ties with other countries in the disputed region. Japan and China are already at loggerheads over a longstanding territorial row in the East China Sea.




That dispute relates to uninhabited islets controlled by Japan known as the Senkakus in Japanese and the Diaoyus in Chinese.
 

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Those who bark seldom bite. True with regards to both Chini and Paki.

What will China do exactly in retaliation for an exercise? What did they do when we went drilling into Vietnam or constructing much needed infra in Arunachal? Nothing.

The Japanese should not bother and just presss on.

Anyway, it serves Indian interest to keep the Chini occupied in SCS. That way we can deal with Paki without any inteference. Not that Chini is likely to do much anyway.
 

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Chinese Navy holds combat drill in the international waters in the Sea of Japan


File photo: PLA NAVY's missile destroyer Xi'an, missile frigate Hengshui, and supply ship Gaoyouhu in the Rim of the Pacific 2016 (RIMPAC 2016) multinational naval exercise in Hawaii, the United States

China’s PLA Navy has kicked off a combat drill in the international waters near the Sea of Japan on August 18, 2016. The missile destroyer Xi'an, missile frigate Hengshui, and supply ship Gaoyouhu forms a team to combat against PLA's East Sea Fleet.

The drill was held on the fleets' way back from the Rim of the Pacific 2016 (RIMPAC 2016) multinational naval exercise in Hawaii, the United States.
 

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I don't understand this aggressive stand of Chinese with Japan side, Japan is considered to be the most pacifist developed nation now, but the Chinese govt has still maintained this useless gesture against Japan.

China is very slowly seen as the new USA in Asian region, but is has forgot one thing that it is not 1960 or 70s where you will have under-developed countries to fight against.

China should avoid this useless statement because, after the verdict of ICA on SCS, China's claim on SCS was literally thwarted by the court.
 

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China tells Japan to ‘get used to’ warplanes flying overhead

A Chinese Air Force Su-30 fighter, right, flies along with a H-6K bomber as they take part in a drill near the East China Sea in 2016.

BEIJING – China told Japan on Friday to “get used to it” after it flew six warplanes over the Miyako Strait between two southern Japanese islands in a military exercise.

Japan’s defense ministry issued a statement late on Thursday describing the flyover by the formation of Xian H-6 bombers earlier that day as “unusual”, while noting that there had been no violation of Japanese airspace.

The Chinese navy and air force have in recent months carried out a series of exercises in the Western Pacific, as they hone their ability to operate far from their home shores.

The Chinese defense ministry said it was “legal and proper” for its military aircraft to operate in the airspace and that it would continue to organize regular training exercises according to “mission requirements”.


“The relevant side should not make a fuss about nothing or over-interpret, it will be fine once they get used to it,” the ministry said in a statement.

The Miyako Strait is between Japan’s islands of Miyako and Okinawa, to the northeast of self-ruled Taiwan, which China claims as its own.

Taiwan’s Ministry of National Defense said on Thursday the Chinese bombers flew just outside its air defense identification zone and that it had “closely followed” the movements.
 

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just throw these statements on the the faces of those who said "
Let Bhutan handle border row,
 

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just throw these statements on the the faces of those who said "
Let Bhutan handle border row,
Why not to those who allowed the mention of Indian Administered Kashmir in official statements?

What is so holy about them?

One chindi chor naming another chindi chor, a chindi chor.

How does that cause any excitement?
 

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I don't understand this aggressive stand of Chinese with Japan side, Japan is considered to be the most pacifist developed nation now, but the Chinese govt has still maintained this useless gesture against Japan.

China is very slowly seen as the new USA in Asian region, but is has forgot one thing that it is not 1960 or 70s where you will have under-developed countries to fight against.
China will never be seen as the new USA because unlike the USA, China has zero soft power. You should see the abuse everyone heaps on China - outside of Pakistan, China has no friends (even NK has an uneasy alliance with China, since they're globally isolated, but I hear 11 Jinping and Kim Jong Un hate the crap out of each other).

You can't go around bullying everyone if you have no soft power, no NGOs, no Hollywood, no music industry, no cultural capital, no academic institutions of worth. People will see you for exactly what you are - a small hearted, nouveau-riche bully.

You should see how much the Filipinos, Indonesians, Singaporeans, Vietnamese, Hong Kongers, Japanese hate PRC - it makes India-Pakistan hate mild by comparison. Hell, even many former Chinese citizens never want to go back there.
 

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China also said "Get used to it" to Japan as it flies Bombers near Japan.
 

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All these Chinese bullying on Japan, forcefully occupation of SCS islands, forcefully control over SCS exclusively, land grabbing of every neighbor, destroying local industries of other countries with which China has business. All these form a preface for the grand military alliance against China.
 

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All these Chinese bullying on Japan, forcefully occupation of SCS islands, forcefully control over SCS exclusively, land grabbing of every neighbor, destroying local industries of other countries with which China has business. All these form a preface for the grand military alliance against China.
The problem is that all these so called 'alliances' are just on paper. No one will come to the aid of another in the event of a conflict especially against the China due to economic reasons. There would only be a lot of diplomatic noise.

There was a time in the not too distant past when the realm of economics and geopolitics were mutually exclusive domains in Asia. The end of the Cold War removed ideological constraints on economic interactions.

Nowhere was this more evident than in the Sino-Japanese relationship, where despite historical animosities rooted in the legacy of the Second World War, bilateral trade and investment relations have flourished. Sino-Japanese trade grew to over $340 billion in 2016, with China emerging as Japan’s leading trading partner and Japan becoming China’s second-largest trading partner.

Other countries too have enormous economic interests in China. So to assume that they will gang up against it in the event of a conflict is being naive. The days of active alliances are over except for a modicum of it seen in NATO.
 

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The problem is that all these so called 'alliances' are just on paper. No one will come to the aid of another in the event of a conflict especially against the China due to economic reasons. There would only be a lot of diplomatic noise.

There was a time in the not too distant past when the realm of economics and geopolitics were mutually exclusive domains in Asia. The end of the Cold War removed ideological constraints on economic interactions.

Nowhere was this more evident than in the Sino-Japanese relationship, where despite historical animosities rooted in the legacy of the Second World War, bilateral trade and investment relations have flourished. Sino-Japanese trade grew to over $340 billion in 2016, with China emerging as Japan’s leading trading partner and Japan becoming China’s second-largest trading partner.

Other countries too have enormous economic interests in China. So to assume that they will gang up against it in the event of a conflict is being naive. The days of active alliances are over except for a modicum of it seen in NATO.
Let's wait and watch what future has in store.
 

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Those who bark seldom bite. True with regards to both Chini and Paki.
the key word here is seldom ....and compared to their gov ours id corrupt and lazy so not much of an advantage their

but the Chinese govt has still maintained this useless gesture against Japan.
China should avoid this useless statement because, after the verdict of ICA on SCS, China's claim on SCS was literally thwarted by the court.
china only believes in force and doesnt care about any international law

Japan is a US pawn and pawns get killed first.
China will never be seen as the new USA because unlike the USA, China has zero soft power. ...... .
The problem is that all these so called 'alliances' are just on paper. No one will come to the aid of another in the event of a conflict especially against the China due to economic reasons..
exactly ...it's all on paper and not worth much

the only onnes who make a difference are russia and usa.... russia still provides hightech to china and usa unknowlingly gives trade surplus and still gives investment technologhy hitech

they have to be told to stop it ....they have to be kindergarten told that the money given is used against them

modi goi has alos to be kindergartentold that the trade surplus we give them comes back and kills our jawans and takes our soil and our water

indiA HAS THE WORST GOV IN THE WORLD with people like kejriwal given multiple chances by the people t rape them economically

all this fiun and games at the elcetion box ends uo with china widening te economic gap and converting it to military advantage and our jawans at the borders have to bear the burden of alll the corruption of our keriwals and the stupidity of our peolpe in vaoting them into office
 

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From last one month i am only hearing warning from Chinese
Bloody man up and attack Japan

Ohh.. Just a brief reminder of history.. China with all its might was merely a colony of imperial Japan.. And who can forgot Japan of world war 2.. A small nation who fucked up the giant
 

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exactly ...it's all on paper and not worth much

the only onnes who make a difference are russia and usa.... russia still provides hightech to china and usa unknowlingly gives trade surplus and still gives investment technologhy hitech

they have to be told to stop it ....they have to be kindergarten told that the money given is used against them

modi goi has alos to be kindergartentold that the trade surplus we give them comes back and kills our jawans and takes our soil and our water

indiA HAS THE WORST GOV IN THE WORLD with people like kejriwal given multiple chances by the people t rape them economically

all this fiun and games at the elcetion box ends uo with china widening te economic gap and converting it to military advantage and our jawans at the borders have to bear the burden of alll the corruption of our keriwals and the stupidity of our peolpe in vaoting them into office
$50 billion trade imbalance between the Chinks and India, most of it going to the CPEC! It's like a gift to the Chinese/Pakis by a large hearted India.

What a bloody irony!! We need to do something about it. And that is, 1.2 billion people should take a pledge not buy Chinese goods anymore. But that's easier said than done!
 

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$50 billion trade imbalance between the Chinks and India, most of it going to the CPEC! It's like a gift to the Chinese/Pakis by a large hearted India.

What a bloody irony!! We need to do something about it. And that is, 1.2 billion people should take a pledge not buy Chinese goods anymore. But that's easier said than done!
What you propose is not the solution without increasing India's production capacity.

Let's face it; many of our industries are also prospering because of cheaper finished goods which promote cost savings and increase profits for many Indian firms.

The reason?

Poor quantity, quality and timely delivery of goods made in India.

Tell me how many R&D centres exist for making something like Huawei, HTC, Lenovo or anything like this?

None.

Government sector is useless in R&D anyways so I am not counting it.

Private firms have only now raised their heads after 3 years of aggressive reforms by PM Modi for manufacturing.

Banning Chinese goods in anything less than next 15 years will be doomsday for our industry.

We cannot ban anything like that unless at war.

And alternates are either too expensive or too nascent.

Korea and Japan also make their goods in China.

Vietnam only assembles and makes raw materials.

Chinese products are going nowhere from India in next 20 years.

Obsession with service industry and primary goods industry has made us an import-oriented economy.

Unless that is repaired it won't change any status quo that we have today.
 

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