China vows stronger ties with Pakistan

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    China's top legislator Zhang Dejiang met in Beijing on Monday with Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee of Pakistan Rashad Mahmood, pledging stronger ties with the country.

    Zhang, chairman of the Standing Committee of the National People's Congress (NPC), strongly condemned the suicide bombing in the eastern Pakistan city of Lahore that left at least 55 dead and 118 others injured, and extended condolences to the victims.

    Calling the two countries "all-weather strategic partners," Zhang said beefing up China-Pakistan cooperation and upgrading bilateral ties are part of the consensus reached by both leaders.

    He urged various departments of both countries, including legislatures and armed forces, to implement the consensus of both leaders, aid the construction of major cooperation projects, enhance trade cooperation and cultural exchanges.

    Zhang also called for joint efforts to fight terrorism.

    The Chinese NPC hopes to enhance friendly exchanges with the Pakistani parliament, he added.

    Rashad said the Pakistan-China friendship is a cornerstone of his country's foreign policy, vowing to back China's efforts to combat evil forces such as the East Turkistan Islamic Movement.

    source:China vows stronger ties with Pakistan - News - Politics - Russian Radio
     
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    China must have the strongest ties with Pakistan, given that the US is trying to and appears to be successfully boxing in China from all sides.

    Further, unless Pakistan stops the Islamic fundamentalist from using Pakistan as the springboard for sending in agent provocateurs to agitate the Uighurs, China will have to a huge problem at hand in keeping the law and order in Xinjiang.

    China has no option but to be alongside Pakistan.
     
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    I really hope (for the Chinese sake) that China doesn't get blamed for the soup that Pakistan would be in future; like the US and Russia get blamed for entering Afghanistan.
    Somehow these adventures have not turned out to be fruitful in the history. Trying to grip a sinking ship can drown the saviour too.
     
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    Well, USA began its 'Live in relationship' with Pakistan in an efforts to combat evil forces such as the Taliban and AQ.
    Taking that cue, China should go ahead and make efforts to combat evil forces such as the East Turkistan Islamic Movement..
    :thumb: China.

    China provides Pak with arms and tech.
    Pak provides China with terrorists and waves of islamic movements in return for goodies and to keep em coming.
    Later, Pakistan will fake a headache when China calls it for actual action.

    In a away, USA can use Pakistan to bleed China to death..

    :popcorn:
     
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    I don't know if u realize it or not.China has Stronger ties with only two countries in the world.

    Guess who are they

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    North Korea&Pakistan :pound: :pound:

    We know failed countries,terrorist countries,hegemonic countries but only two countries entitled INSANE JOKE countries
     
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    Chinese have become increasingly wary of Pakis on the East Turkistan issue
     
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    No wonder they are pushing in for stronger ties,Pakistan is a terrorist hub and a major headace for china looking at sudden surge in sepratist movement on its eastern borders,hope oppression of people someday doen't lead to an outburst with terrorist jumping all across china. Though it looks just a beginning ,if we go by taliban's concern of oppression muslims in east turkmenistan region.
    If this happens then one thing is for sure,that the middle man(pakistan) would continue to burn just like it's burning today.
     
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    China fears competition and equity. It never ventures into countries which are stable and prosperous. As @jus rrightly pointed out. They were highly active in Myanmar too but they are becoming marginalized as the country is moving towards political reforms.

    Pakistan is their obvious choice as it fits the prerequisites of CCP to be isolated and abandoned by the rest of the world. The only difference between north koreans and Pakis is that the North Koreans are well disciplined and controlled, but the Pakis have no class as they will bite their master in the days to come. When China realise the fact it will be too late.
     
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    Sino-Pak ties are claimed by Islamabad to be higher than the Himalayas and deeper than the oceans .... now what more do they want?
     
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    China and Pakistan should hook up on Indian shadi.com
     
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    Deeper than the ocean?

    It has sunk so low?
     
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    East Turkmenistan will come to bit both China and Pakistan.

    ISIS has already put China on its crosshairs.
     
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    following on from a post above actually i think punjabstan is jolly smart to make great use of china.

    well done to our fellow punjabis !
     
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    It is the otherway around Mr @Ray

    China have plans to get a grip on Xinjiang, and Gawador corridor using terror.

    They will aid some pro Pak China groups and make their presence strong in the name of fighting terror in Pakistani Areas and also using the same reason they will oppress the Xinjiang people.

    A few attacks by evil terrorists on Chinese containers or Gwadarport to disrupt Pakistani economy will make the Chinese soldiers land in Pakistan to support their friend and take control of the things.

    Since it is Islamic terror they are fighting no one will question China's intentions. Using the same reason they can establish naval and military bases in Pakistan which will add to the already existing military bases of USA in the guise of embassies and other support buildings in Pakistan.

    The tactic is similar to what USA is been doing in the name of Hunting terrorists.

    USA pictured itself successfully as world policeman, in the name of WOT. No one questioned them when they established military bases and fought war.

    Now they are inviting every nation around Afghanistan to deal with the mess they have created, The intent is make all the Asian nations fight there and weaken themselves in covert wars.
     
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    There are three issues that you should ponder upon:

    (a) The ISIS growing clout and eyeing Turkmenistan.

    (b) The AQ & ISIS rivalry and each will take the Islamic cause in the world to include Turkmenistan as their personal preserve to spread Islamic fundamentalism and hence terrorism to achieve it.

    (c) the US possibly assisting the Uighurs through the Uighur World Congress and ensuring that China is kept on the hop and less focused at world and SCS domination.

    Now, shake and stir that and you find a potent mix that is working against Chinese interests.

    As I see it China is still not in that formidable position to open bases. At best, they can establish their rights as ports of call.

    Just a thought.
     
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    ISIS is still in the middle east, Al queda declared china as their target but they are weak now.

    China is known for doing genocide and oppressing people, USA's help or a terror leader sitting in Pakistan helping Ughyurs will only help China to do genocide in the name of Islamic terror.

    Islam is the enemy now for the west, Govts all around the world will support USA and USA will also support China as long as the threat is there.

    There is no continous border between China and USA to liberate East Turkestan nor USA has plans to go to war with China, Mean while Ughyrs will be hanged, killed and oppressed under the account of Islamic terror.
     
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    The Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIS) used to have a different name: al Qaeda in Iraq.

    US troops and allied Sunni militias defeated al Qaeda in Iraq during the post-2006 "surge" — but it didn't destroy them. The US commander in Iraq, General Ray Odierno, described the group in 2010 as down but "fundamentally the same." In 2011, the group rebooted. ISIS successfully freed a number of prisoners held by the Iraqi government and, slowly but surely, began rebuilding their strength.

    ISIS and al-Qaeda divorced in February 2014. "Over the years, there have been many signs that the relationship between al Qaeda Central (AQC) and the group's strongest, most unruly franchise was strained," Barack Mendelsohn, a political scientist at Haverford College, writes. Their relationship "had always been more a matter of mutual interests than of shared ideology."

    According to Mendelsohn, Syria pushed that relationship to the breaking point. ISIS claimed that it controlled Jabhat al-Nusra, the official al-Qaeda splinter in Syria, and defied orders from al-Qaeda's leader, Ayman al-Zawahiri, to back off. "This was the first time a leader of an al-Qaeda franchise had publicly disobeyed" a movement leader, he says. ISIS also defied repeated orders to kill fewer civilians in Syria, and the tensions led to al-Qaeda disavowing any connection with ISIS in a February communiqué.

    Today, ISIS and al-Qaeda compete for influence over Islamist extremist groups around the world. Some experts believe ISIS may overtake al-Qaeda as the most influential group in this area globally.

    ISIS used to be al-Qaeda in Iraq - 17 things about ISIS and Iraq you need to know - Vox
     
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    If this is correct, then it shows what skulduggery goes on in politics and strategy that cause immense chaos and hardship to the common people.

    Therefore, we cannot speculate as to what can or will not happen.
     
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    Yes, you are right. but the problem when you use religion as a bait to achieve strategic objectives is that, not many "fanatics" understand your strategic objectives and then CCP is in deeper than deep shit relationship with pak.

    Its islamic terror, and every player who is in this orgie has own economic and religious intentions. That means for China , suppression in Xinjiang wont be a unilateral war along with Pak, even though Pak controls its faction of terrorists. We have seen from time to time Pakistan establishment breaking down cuz of own terrorists performing uncontrolled acts of terrorism.
    ISIS has larger interests and if ISIS has to keep its larger interest of economy., it has to promote its very larger smoke-screen of 'religion'. ISIS will use every opportunity they get to promote their deceptive interests on China in Xinjiang.

    USA lost its economic clout in such islamic wars; USA has suffered an economic hemorrhage when it started the war on terror.
    Using USA created terorism in Pakistan against USA "could" be a larger plan of China via Pak. Its justified by CCP's method of deception. What better way to bleed USA economically and gain advantage.

    in Xinjiang, the plan could backfire on China, cuz its dealings with 'sentiments' and 'emotions' which always remains as an underguaged factor in war. Every war on terror will give Pakistan establishments goodies as war funds, compensations and weapons. Its a nice business for people in Pakistani establishments but plight for every common man in Pakistan.

    http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/defence-strategic-issues/64608-unconventional-warfare-5.html
     
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