China viewed by an Indian

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  1. Yijiuliuer

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    This is an upset Chinese wrote about China preteding he is an Indian. It is a popular style amongst the bloggers to critize China from a view of foreigners. I just tranlsated the article and please check if he can blend in as a real Indian.
    印度人看中国:外表光鲜的可怜虫
    China viewed by Indian: A pathetic Loser Hiddent underneath Polished Appearance


    ( I am just translating with his original numbers and comments, so don't try to fight with me)
    表面上看,中国比印度先进富裕,中国的GDP和人均GDP两项指标都是印度的两倍,人口比印度只多出约12%,按说中国要比印度富裕。

    但真实情况确相反,从我在中国生活的两年半的所见所闻,真实的中国人比印度人生活艰难的多、苦的多。

    印度农民没有苛捐杂税。印度农民占总人口的比例和中国差不多,但印度农民自给自足,国家根本不从农业上提取税收,也不象中国地方有那么多官员要养活,尽管印度的农业技术比中国落后,这主要是印度农民懒造成的

    From a superficial perspective, China is better off than India, China's Gross GDP and Average GDP both doublesized India's,
    populationwisely, they are just 12% more, hence we can conclude China is richer.

    But facts are opposite , based on my two and half years' experience in this country , average Chinese leads a far more bitter and harder life than an average Indian.

    India farmers are not submitted to any taxes. The indian agricultural population are of equal percentage as that of China, but indian farmers
    are more self-sufficient, The indian government does not tax on agriculture, and they don't have so many burocratic officials to pay form tax payers dollar. If we say indian agriculture technology is lagging behind that of China's , that is due to the laziness of our farmers.
     
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    If indian farmers are as hardworking as Chinese, Indian will see a much prosperous rural society. China has world most diligent farmers, highest unit yield rate of crops, but they are suppressed too hard, taxed too hard. Compared with China, the majority of population, farmers, are much happier and less stressful.

    Indian enjoy the full freedom of migrating, while chinese is confined to where he is, even residing in other cities needs a temporary residency permit. this is something unheard of by indian. there is no case such as somebody be put to pound and tortured to death due to his lacking of temporary residency permit. Indian beggers sets up their turf right infront of their presidential palace, as well as on main street as busy as Chang'an street, no cops will chase you away like huldling a flock of ducks.

    In india, we don't have Chengguans( urban management) who roam around like bandits, and we won't worry our paddler tricycles be confeisticated for clearing up city streets, In this country , if you can find a something to earn money, no one is in your way, but in China,
    it is totally a different story, Chinese officials pays more attention to the exterior image then the quality of every day life of their citizens.
     
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    Average Indian earn more than their Chinese counterpart. China has the world cheapest labor, cost of labor is much lower than in India..
    Take Television for example, this time the US initiated an anti-dumping war against Chinese TV exporters by using indian made TV's price.
    China's price is lower due to Chinese Labor is much lower than that of India, since in China, other cost of making a TV set is much higher.

    Manufacture workers for exemple, Chinese workers earns less than Indian workers, some joint ventures open their factory in China due to
    they can pay the workers with less wage. They can barely survive in India since we don't have as hard working people either do we have
    some one willing to work with such a low pay.
     
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    中国的 GDP在剔除水分后的真实数字是多少,大概没人能说清楚。

    中国人光养这些大盖帽就必须付出沉重的代价,谁也不清楚中国人要花多少钱来养他们。一些大盖帽领导贪了太多的钱以后卷辅盖走人跑到国外去。据中国自己报道,近年来卷款外逃的官员有好几百人,这些人带走的财富估计可以供养几千万儿童上学。

    印度没有官员终身制。印度上至总统下至部门,在任是官员,享受国家的各种待遇,但下来后和平民一样。但中国就不一样了,中国只要进了官场,除非因腐败被抓起来,否则国家要养一辈子,直到死为止。据中国媒体报道,中国的官员总数和法国总人口差不多,这还不包括乡村及编外的官员。

    而中国的国民总值比法国还低,从这一点上看,中国人的负担比印度大的多

    Plus, if you took out the water in their statistics, you will never know the real figure of their so called GDP.

    Chinese will pay dear to feed these authorities, they don't even know how much money are spent on them , these authories, leaders are so corrupted that they ripped off a lot of money and then immigrate to overseas. According to their own report. there are more than hundreds corrupted official evaded from China to overseas with astraunomic amount of money, which can pay up 10 million students' tuitions.

    Indian officials can never got their tenure, from our president to a common public servant, you are an official when you are in office, you
    got your privilliege as a public servant, but after you retired, you are just as a common citizen, In China, once you entered the goverment,
    you always got the previllige until you die, provided you were put to prison charged with corruption. According to China's own report,
    they have a population of officials that equals to the the number of total population of France. this number hasn't counted in the adjuncts and village cadres.

    While China's GDP is lower than that of France, this means chinese had more burdern than Indian.
     
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    印度没有中国普遍存在的烂尾楼。在中国城市随处可见烂尾楼,这些烂尾楼少则几百万,多则几十亿,要统计中国的烂尾楼到底有多少、到底有多少资金存入烂尾楼里多登天还难。

    In india, we don't have half baked building, but in China it is easily spotted every where, these unfinished buildings cost varying from sereral millions to billions, and it is hard to trace the number.

    可以说每幢烂尾楼都是官商勾结的腐败现象,每幢烂尾楼都是人民的血汗钱,在中国不知有多少人民的血汗投入了这个黑窟隆,这种现象在印度很少见,这也是中国特色。

    Half baked building is a sign of corruption showcases undertable deals between government officials and rich businessmen, every building is paid by tax dollars, on one knows how much money is burned in this kind of black holes. While in India, it is rarely seen. this is a unique trait of China.

    印度实行全民免费医疗。“公费医疗”也称免费医疗,指国家对公民提供一种福利,代为支付医疗费用。发达欧洲国家如英国,瑞典、瑞士、丹麦,都是全民免费医疗,一切费用国家全包。

    India has a public medicare system, people got PUBLIC that means FREE medical treatement. this ia welfare that the states provided to its people. Countries in Europe, such as UK, Sweden, Swisterland and Danmark, they all have public medicare.

    美国、日本等国实行医疗保险制度,但是对于退休老人、穷人,则是免费医疗。牛 B如俄罗斯,只要是在俄国土地上的人,无论本国人外国人,一概免费医疗。
    US and Japan they have something similiar they call it Medical Insurance System, for under privillieged, the treatment are free. Most examplary nation is Russia, foreigners also enjoys free medicare if they work or travel in Russia.

    再看看第三世界穷国家,印度人口大国,竟然也敢施行全民免费医疗制度,古巴、巴西和智利实行全民免费医疗保健制度,全民普及基本卫生服务,人均期望寿命、婴儿死亡率、孕产妇死亡率等国
    Third world countries, as we Indian, along with Cuba, Brzil,Chili, we have our public medicare free for all citizens. we provide totally free medical treatment to serve our people, our health care and sanitation maintenance tops the world.

    民健康指标都位居世界前列。连朝鲜都是免费医疗,可是号称社会主义大国的中国,到现在免费医疗还是个梦想。

    Even North Korea, it has Free public medicare system, while a so called socialism state, a big country, still in its wildest to install anything like it.
     
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    印度的国际生存环境比中国好的多。由于政权的性质,中国目前基本上受到世界的围堵,而且这种围堵都十分有效。现在的中国虽然经济上有发展,但国际生存空间仍然恶劣。以美国为首的西方民主国家对中国实行全面打压,周边国家也十分敌对,自身的统一问题也没有解决。

    中国很有可能因为一场战争,被国际势力打压下去,就象满清、民国时期一样。而印度与主要强国关系友好,所以,印度的发展空间比中国好的多。



    India's international envrionment is far better than that of China's. due to the nature of the government, China is contained and blocked by the world. and the blockage is very effective. Economic progress aside, China suffers from a bad geopolitical environment. The US led crusaders form the west treated China as adversary, their neighboring nations are not friendly either, they have a reunification to worry about.

    Quite possibly, China will be defeated with a war fought between China and international communities and will be like the Qing Dynasty or KMT ROC, fell and fell forever. India enjoys good diplomatic relationship with the US, we enjoy a much wider space for developing.
     
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    I am tired of translating this kind naive bullshits, just let you guys know, you are not alone :)
    I will stop here.
     
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    If that stuff was written by an Indian, he's either extremely naive, lying, or is not Indian. India's social problems are far greater than China's.

    However, China's biggest problem is political uncertainty. A Chinese person was telling me how all the shops in Beijing have been banned from carrying knives to prepare for China's leadership meeting next week. What kind of ridiculous order is that? If knives are a security concern, what about the millions of knives sitting in Beijing residents' kitchens?
     
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    though its a biased article it highlighted many important points, problems faced by common man in china

    1.its a misconception thinking china doesn't give subsidies to farmers.ex. seeds are manufactured by govt bodies itself a subsidy
    2.yes the officials are becoming a big burden on china, more corrupt than india. being a communist regime its expected to be more restrictive
    3. chinese people work like hell inside china or outside chin, its their character
    4 a blooper is saying india enjoys a diplomatic edge over china. no china enjoys an overwhelming diplomatic superiority over india
    5.heard their health system is very good,but don't know much
    6.comparing industries of india vs china less said much better:namaste:
     
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    Yep... you are right, for sure not written by an Indian!
     
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    i am damn sure that it was not written by any Indian as Indians are generally not this naive in nature!it's written by some disgruntled chini citizen who wanted to vent his anger against the oppression of CCCP!
     
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    this is my view point of china. China is facing resistance from U.S. but there is nothing left in U.S. it is an empty shell. China's economy is completely depended on europe and America because they are manufacturing economy if people in U.S.and europe don't have money to buy they won't buy manufactured goods. China can act as much as powerful it wants to in the end they are depended on rothschilds and U.S. without them they are nothing they will be destroyed
     
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    a clever attempt on chest thumping by chineese... The obsession of China now is with growing India... they have Japan in east to contain and now have to live with a growing India at south... what a predicament to be in...

    You will see now days how Chineese show their disparation towards their smallar countries around it... giving out threats on a daily basis... and making a mokery of itself... as if China as become a super power itself by making & selling cheap products...
     
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    I wonder what a funny idiot might have written this article! It is the first time I have heard of people bashing their own country pretending to be a foreigner. Strange indeed!
     
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    The issue is where is the link?

    Is the link to a blog in Chinese?

    If it is by an Indian as is being claimed, does he have business or other interests?

    If so, it is understandable since anything written adverse will affect his business or enterprise as it was with the Al Jazeera who were thrown out of China because they gave a true picture through their documentary on Laogai (Prison where it is said that it is Reeducation to the Communist Philosophy being done through Forced Labour).

    Existence in China is a game of Ping Pong.

    You scratch my back says the Communist Party or I shall throw you out and so for that Ping, the Pong is returned to praise China and condemn one's own!

    Ping Pong by DIng Dongs!

    Hu (who) will say Wen (when) Wang (one) is sent Xinping (jumping)! ;)
     
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    This stupid article were posted and reposted on many sites, here is a list of them:

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    and About the foreign media, you do have your double standard, where is your pro-al jazeera stance when they supported Pakistan?
    You like many postcolonial indians, has been poisoned with some ideology you as a suppressed victime should not even give a damn,
    but you believe in it. pity.
     
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    If you post this in US media, you will be sued. haha.
     
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    what is USSR doing here in this topic?
     

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