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  1. Parthy

    Parthy Air Warrior Senior Member

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    New China missile unit near Taiwan: spy chief

    Taiwan's top intelligence chief said China had deployed a new missile unit near the island, a lawmaker revealed Thursday, sparking concerns about the fragility of ties with the mainland.

    Tsai Teh-sheng, head of the National Security Bureau, described the new unit, located in southern China, while replying to queries last week raised by legislator Lin Yu-fang of the ruling Kuomintang party.

    "The unit, carrying the code number 96166 and based in Guangdong province, is indeed a new unit, probably a new ballistic missile brigade," Tsai said, without providing details, according to a statement released by Lin.

    "Over the past few years, the People's Liberation Army has kept increasing its deployment of ballistic missile units in both quantity and quality opposite Taiwan," the intelligence chief was quoted as saying in the statement.

    Taiwanese experts estimate that China currently has more than 1,600 missiles aimed at the island, mostly deployed in Fujian and Jiangxi provinces in the mainland's southeast, forecasting that the number will reach 1,800 next year.

    Lin, a university professor specialising in military affairs, said China's continued expansion of its railway network also has helped boost the flexibility of its missile arm.

    The extensive rail network enables the weapons to be transported swiftly to the coastal areas when needed and even to be launched from railway cars.

    On Thursday, in response to questions raised by another Kuomintang legislator, Tsai said that with restrictions on visits to the island being eased, Chinese intelligence agents have arrived disguised as tourists, academics and civil organisation staff.

    Tensions across the Taiwan Strait have eased since Ma Ying-jeou of the China-friendly Kuomintang became Taiwan's president in 2008 on a platform of boosting trade links and allowing in more Chinese tourists.

    However, Beijing still refuses to renounce the possible use of force against the island, which has ruled itself since the end of a civil war in 1949, should it declare formal independence.

    The Pentagon said in an annual report to Congress last year that China's military build-up against Taiwan had "continued unabated" despite improving political relations.

    The perceived threat has prompted Taiwan to seek more advanced weapons, mainly from the United States.

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  3. Parthy

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    Taiwan welcomes US Senate push for F-16 sale

    Taiwan said Sunday it welcomed a push by nearly half the US Senate for the sale of dozens of F-16 fighters to the island in an arms deal Taipei said would help its dealings with China.

    In a letter to President Barack Obama last week, 45 out of 100 US senators urged the administration to swiftly approve the sale of 66 F16-C/Ds to Taiwan as the fast-expanding Chinese forces tip the military balance in the region, the foreign ministry said.

    "We're pleased to see the bipartisan move in the US Senate," foreign ministry spokesman James Chang told AFP.

    "The arms sale will help Taiwan boost its self-defence capabilities, thus giving it more leverage while engaging the Chinese mainland," he said.

    Ties between Taiwan and China have improved markedly since 2008 after Ma Ying-jeou of the China-friendly Kuomintang party came to power on a platform of beefing up trade links and allowing in more Chinese tourists.

    Taiwan applied to the US government to buy 66 F-16 fighters in early 2007, but observers say Washington has held up the deal for fear of angering Beijing.

    The United States in January 2010 approved a 6.4 billion-dollar arms package to Taiwan, prompting a furious Beijing to halt military exchanges and security talks with Washington.

    During a trip to the United States earlier this month, Chinese People's Liberation Army Chief of General Staff Chen Bingde renewed his objection to any US arms sales to the island.



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  4. badguy2000

    badguy2000 Respected Member Senior Member

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    even if Taiwan were to get F16,so what?

    when Taiwan were to get F16 ,even J20 might have entered into service .......

    F16 sale has little military meaning......it is just a political posture.
     
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    Taiwan should consider setting up its nuclear deterrence. It's time to get MAD.
     
  6. Parthy

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    Why can't we arm Taiwan like the Chinese arming Pakistan..

    We should Counter China by

    1. Arming both Vietnam & Taiwan.
    2. Should conduct joint exercise with all defense wings of Taiwan.

    Its a high time to be prepared for the worst as there were increased presence of Chinese all over the LoC including PoK..
     
  7. Parthy

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    All their Nuclear program were shutdown by US pressure to avoid tension with China.. They tried producing weapon grade plutonium but failed due to critical technologies and succumbed to US pressure for shut it down.

    Taiwan's defense establishments are too small to withstand Chinese aggression.. They certainly need support from US, France & India..

    India try to put further a defense tie up with Vietnam, Taiwan & Japan.. - Hope this has been already discussed in another thread in the forum..
     
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    I don't think China will lunch an unprovoked invasion of Taiwan. Unless Taiwan does something really stupid like declaring its independence then that part of the world, and the whole Asia for that matter, will not erupt.
     
  9. aramsogo

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    You can try to arm Taiwan, but then China will arm the Naxals and every other Indian insurgency with the latest man portable missiles, high explosives and small arms. Considering the Naxals are still fighting with WWI weapons, this will significantly upgrade their fighting capabilities.
     
  10. niharjhatn

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    There will be a time when China's presence will be so troubling that natural alliances between such nations will be formed.

    Furthermore, helping arm Taiwan is completely different to arming insurgency groups within India. Helping Taiwan protect herself is not akin to aligning a nation with terrorist organisations.

    Such alignment will give enough justification to the government to adopt a much more aggressive policy to eliminating such groups. Naxals are still not being eradicated as so many of them are educated people, and muslim groups are not cracked down on due to continual attempts by the government to appeal to the muslim populace. Visible alignment with China will help polarise opinion.

    It is also not so easy to simply arm insurgent groups WITHIN India, which is far different (as I said) with helping another sovereign nation protect herself.
     
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    guy, you should have armed India itself, before you blah ärm Taiwan....etc.

    case is that India now even can not arm India itself.....and has to import arms from Russia and other foreign countries.
     
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    Seriously, when did Taiwan become an independent, sovereign country??
    The Naxals are still using WWI weapons and killing Indian security everyday. Imagine the Naxals with modern weapons.
     
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    India policemen are also using WWI Lee-enfield
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    badguy, India may not be in a position to provide weapon support at large scale NOW but still it can provide a considerable amount of weapons supply in a year or two..

    US supplies weapons to the all its allies doesn't mean that it has fulfilled all its defense needs.. Its a parallel process...

    Whatever arming plan we are discussing today it is not going to happen within this year. Its the idea which the Indian defense think-tank has if China continuous to provide arming the Nuclear state Pakistan against India..

    India will go for a defense pacts with both Vietnam & Taiwan in another 3 or more years and don't forget we got the booming economy to support the needs.. The only reason for which India does not making any move close to either Taiwan or Tibet is the only reason we does not want to have conflicts with China and wanted all disputes to be resolved over dialogs.. But CCP as ever before considers only aggression and use of force to solve all its disputes..

    My point is clear - India may not be in a position to provide help to countries like Vietnam, Taiwan & Tibet but soon or later we will do that...
     
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    Taiwan, Tibet etc have been sovereign nations ever since they wanted to be, and their people agreed to be.

    Killing requires will power. Nothing else. Ask the french revolutionists. The people who had nothing were able to launch a revolution!

    The Naxals will kill whether or not they have the best China has to offer.

    I hope a relationship between China and these groups are established! It will be a great excuse to completely eliminate them from the picture!

    The fact that you support arming of terrorist groups that target civilians only highlights the sick twisted mind that so many Chinese posters have!

    Rather than fighting as a proxy, China itself should attack India and face the consequences itself!
     
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    And yet we have police forces using UAV's to observe the crowds at a political rally!

    UAVs deployed for Mayawati’s Chandigarh rally

    The scum the Naxals are shouldn't be dealt with police forces, but with the army/special forces!
     
  17. badguy2000

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    then, you had better leave the topic "to help Vietnman or Taiwan" there ,until you can "sooner or later"...ok?

    the words such as "to do" or "sooner or later" are usually not accepted as reality by CHinese.
     
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    Before you start to thinking about arming Taiwan, you have to ask if Taiwan wants indian weapon.
     
  19. pmaitra

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    Welcome back BadGuy2000. Good to see you back.

    We are actually interested in staying on this topic because we want to discuss how to tie down PRC with her other neighbours just like PRC has kept India tied down with Pakistan.

    We Indians are thorough gentlemen and we would definitely return the favour that PRC has hitherto done us.
     

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