China swimmer Ye Shiwen clean, says BOA boss Moynihan

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  1. nimo_cn

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    London 2012 Olympics: BOA chairman Lord Moynihan says doping speculation about Ye Shiwen is regrettable

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    London 2012 Olympics: BOA chairman Lord Moynihan says doping speculation about Ye Shiwen is regrettable - Telegraph


    Sigh, someone might feel unhappy about this.
     
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    What is disturbing is the lack of sportsmanship displayed by the American coach, and the fact that his statement was reported on TV.
     
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    Armand2REP CHINI EXPERT Veteran Member

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    Water murky in Ye Shiwen doping accusations
    Updated: July 31, 2012 9:12AM

    LONDON – On Monday, China’s Ye Shiwen won gold in the women’s 400-meter individual medley, breaking the world record by a second. She swam her final 50-meter freestyle in 28.93 seconds, which was faster than Ryan Lochte’s final 50 meters (29.1 seconds).

    In case there’s any confusion here, Lochte is a man and the Olympic gold medalist in the 400 IM.

    For those who believe a person is innocent until proven guilty, good for you. But for we skeptics, the people who have seen athletes try to beat the system over and over again, it’s impossible to look at Ye’s performance Monday and not suspect that something is very, very wrong.

    John Leonard, the executive director of the World Swimming Coaches Association, said Ye “looks like Superwoman. Any time someone has looked like Superwoman in the history of our sport, they have later been found guilty of doping.’’

    He also called Ye’s final 100 meters “impossible.’’

    Almost immediately, her Chinese supporters lashed out, saying Ye had passed more than 100 drug tests. But that’s the Lance Armstrong defense, and there are plenty of people who don’t believe the seven-time Tour de France winner competed clean.

    I was at the 1996 Olympics in Atlanta when Irish swimmer Michelle Smith blew away the field three times, winning gold in the 400-meter freestyle and the 200 and 400 IM.

    Almost immediately, people associated with the sport said something didn’t smell right. American star Janet Evans questioned how someone could progress so quickly, especially someone who was 26, old by swimming standards. For years, Smith had been a middling swimmer on the international scene, and here she was dominating the competition. More importantly, she was dropping her times dramatically. Before 1996, her best time in the 400 IM was 4 minutes, 58.94. In Atlanta, she swam 4:39.18.

    It was a chaotic scene after each of her races, with friends and family angrily defending her and Smith herself denying she had ever used performance-enhancing drugs.

    Four years later, I was in Kells, County Kilkenny, Ireland, trying to track down Smith, who had been exposed as a drug cheat. After being unable to locate her again and again, FINA, swimming’s governing body, finally tested her and eventually banned her from competition for tampering with her urine sample. Three successive tests found a banned substance.

    I never did talk with Smith, who wouldn’t answer her door or return phone messages. The question now is whether we have found someone to take her place.

    There are differences in the two cases. Smith was 26, and her best swimming should have been behind her by the Atlanta Games. Ye is 16. But her record time Monday was five seconds faster than her previous best. She denied she had taken any drugs, saying her results came from “hard work and training.’’

    The sad part of this sport and others is that we know athletes find new drugs to beat the testers. We also know that WADA keeps drug samples for eight years and can find previously undetected drugs as they come to light. Ye very well could be clean. Or we might learn years from now that she wasn’t. That’s swimming, where the water is always murky.

    Colin Moynihan, chairman of the British Olympic Association, defended Ye on Tuesday morning.

    “She’s been through (the World Anti-Doping Agency’s) program, and she’s clean,’’ he said. “End of story. Ye Shiwen deserves recognition for her talent.’’

    It is not the end of the story, of course. Ye is the favorite to win the 200 IM Tuesday night. Given swimming’s dirty history and China’s record of cheating, some of us will hold off on the cheering.

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    right, if a chinese win something its cheating/doping, if phelps win its hardworking. people make assuming, oh since someone so and so from certain country win, its cheating, if they pass its cause new drug, which is undetectable, oh and taht new drug must copy from another country, cause we all know so and so country cant produce something thats theirs :) lol

    maybe the chinese diving team is on some kind of dupe too since they win alot medal in those event. /sarcasm off

    this remind me of last olympic where the chinese gymanism accuse of younger age. which is a pure BS to me after they win, people start complaining.
     
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    Right now, The Chinese swimmer is in the clear.

    The record stands.
     
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    I'd like to see Steroid Olympics, to see what human potential is truly capable off.
     
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    Feed steroids to pigs, eat that pork. Voila, avoid detection.
     
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    Since so many posts have appeared on doping, I am appending an article on the subject.

    I think it can be still detected and difficult to beat the system.

     
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    Now Ryan Lochte is joked as the guy who swims slower than a woman. It is indeed hard for men to swallow it, for people like Mr. Armand it is even harder. Miss Ye's 'impossible' performance will haunt these men for years, so at a moment I even think Miss Ye is not clean would perhaps help world better than she is clean.
     
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    i hope this can settle things down now. hopefully no one will judge other base on where they come from because so and so win a medal. give a bad name for sportsmanship

     
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    Chinese Olympic team doctor now accuses America's Michael Phelps of doping as countries enter bitter war of words over champion swimmers

    Dr Zhanghao had been in charge of the Chinese medical staff at past Olympic Games in Los Angeles, Seoul and Barcelona.

    However his involvement in sports doping in the 1980s and 90s throws a shadow over his credibility, the Sydney Herald's China correspondent added.

    Read more: Michael Phelps accused of doping by Chinese Olympic team doctor | Mail Online

    So much for Chinis taking the high road... :rofl:
     
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    Lots of dopes around in the Olympic team managerial cadres who are talking about doping.
     
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    Netizen: Who is Phelps' rumored girl_English_Xinhua

    The Xinhuanet picture shows that Phelps is wearing a yamulke.

    Therefore, he is Jewish?

    If it is so, another good controversy is in the offing.

    The next accusation will be that the Chinese doctor Dr Zhanghao who had been in charge of the Chinese medical staff at past Olympic Games in Los Angeles, Seoul and Barcelona is anti Semetic and a racist!

    The Olympics go on and the FUN begins!

    And the picture is from a Chinese source!!!! :eek:
     
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    Chinese let Child practise too earlier than other countries, and younger girls indeed are good at jumping, looping.
    at last, Chinese send their mature female , although these sexy female made some mistakes and butt on the group. but I like watching sexy girls in this game.
     
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    He is Jewish, I thought he is christian
     
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    Ladies Gymnastics and Ice Skating are great sports to watch!

    They are very agile and lithesome!

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    Same Chini rep claims France dopes too! :rofl:

    @Ray... that is a disturbing post. :shocked:
     
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    Poor girl. It's sad when such commendable achievements are rewarded with suspicion.

    Shame on the Yanks. Picking on a 16 year old:tsk:
     
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    What the frog said.

    You've got me worried mate. Those girls look like toddlers.
     
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    you sound like 5 yrs old lost the arguement cause the chinese swimmer was clean, now try to use any excuse/argument to win back your face lol
     

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