China-Sri Lanka signs US$500 mn agreement for Col South terminal

[Param]

Top 50 World Container Ports | World Shipping Council

Colombo ranks 29th with throughput of 4.08mln teus containers in 2010.

Let's see where the top Indian port is. Ah, Nhava Sheva, 26th, 4.28mln teus. Then no more for India in the top 50... Phewwwwwwwwwww

That's so called first mover advantage. Global liners would prefer Colombo as a shipping hub in transit to Mid East, Africas, and beyond to Indian ports with the former's buildup thanks to the investment pumped in and infra an edge over Ind... meaning big revenue and jobs for a small state called Sri Lanka

Why dont you guys do us a favour and start setting up a military base in Sri Lanka? That would give our morons in power an incentive to bomb the S##t out of Colombo.

 

[amoy]

Lankans do NOT see India as a friend nor ally.

The 25 years of arse kicking at the hands of Tamils is too much for them to forget.

Its high time India recalibrates its lanka policy, else its gonna become another Nepal.

That sounds as if India only had a Tamil policy but not a Sri Lanka policy. India wanted to keep SL divided by propping up a separatist force LTTE (like Turkey for Cyprus). On the contrary China supported an integrated SL wiping out LTTE. Thanks to your folly China is able to make inroads into SL

 

[hitesh]

nuke them all ,& RIP

 

[Dovah]

On the contrary China supported an integrated SL wiping out LTTE.

Change LTTE to Tamils and your statement would hold true. Regardless, without a military presence there is no chance for China to be able to protect its investment in case of an eventuality considering the size of the nation its investing in.

 

[Param]

That sounds as if India only had a Tamil policy but not a Sri Lanka policy. India wanted to keep SL divided by propping up a separatist force LTTE (like Turkey for Cyprus). On the contrary China supported an integrated SL wiping out LTTE. Thanks to your folly China is able to make inroads into SL

If India had not given support to the SL regime, there is S##t China could have done anything in this context.
It was not exactly the weapons supplied by you but rather the diplomatic shield provided by India that kept Western players from supporting the LTTE. It was Indian intelligence agency supplied information to Sl regime about militant movements and their Ships that made the biggest difference.

If not for India's support to SL govt, that country would have split a long time ago. The Lankans just like most of our neighbors just don't like a very big powerful country in their vicinity.

The Lankans are A## licks. And China rewards A## lickers.

 

[arya]

while china is using our neighbor against we should use there against them

Sl should be our friend but its bad they are going on wrong track some how we are responsible for that

 

[Tronic]

On the contrary China supported an integrated SL wiping out LTTE. Thanks to your folly China is able to make inroads into SL

If India did not support Sri Lanka, China could stand behind and huff and puff as much it liked, it would not have been able to topple the LTTE.

 

[majorIN]

lanka is playing double game on both sides.they r funded by the both India n china. India had helped Lanka in war against LTTE.now they r getting funds from the china to constructs ports,and china is planning to establish it military bases in Lanka to guard against India.govt must take necessary actions on this situation

 

[SpArK]

Top 50 World Container Ports | World Shipping Council

Colombo ranks 29th with throughput of 4.08mln teus containers in 2010.

Let's see where the top Indian port is. Ah, Nhava Sheva, 26th, 4.28mln teus. Then no more for India in the top 50... Phewwwwwwwwwww

That's so called first mover advantage. Global liners would prefer Colombo as a shipping hub in transit to Mid East, Africas, and beyond to Indian ports with the former's buildup thanks to the investment pumped in and infra an edge over Ind... meaning big revenue and jobs for a small state called Sri Lanka

Wait for some more time, the new port i am referring to is coming up.

The Port is merely a 10 NM diversion from international east-west shipping route.The port handling capacity is envisaged to be 4.1 million TEU/annum at the completion of the Project.

Vizhinjam is expected to give Colombo a run for the money and sadly its ur money too.

 

[Zebra]

Proposed project aims to fulfill the need of providing Transshipment on Indian Coast (at present there is no existing Container Transshipment Terminal in India to cater to this need. Annual Container Traffic close to 4 Million TEUs is currently originating or destined to India through Sea route with CAGR of 14% during the last decade).

Vizhinjam is an all-weather port and the international shipping line is just one nautical mile off Vizhinjam coast.

The proposed site is on the INTERNATIONAL SHIPPING LINE, very close to the EAST-WEST SHIPPING AXIS.

The proposed site is endowed with natural depth of 24 m (which is by far the best compared to other ports in the world) as close as one Nautical Mile from the sea coast. There is no littoral sedimentation and due to natural depth availability, the site needs no dredging or minimal capital dredging requirements and thus low costs (as compared to the any other port in India within a reasonable distance from the East-West Shipping axis).

The depths at ports in New York, Southampton, Singapore, Dubai, Colombo, Hong Kong is 15 meters and requires dredging .

It has more advantages compared to Colombo port and if developed can harbour even Panamax class and futuristic vessels. It also satisfies the physical and hydrographical parameters of modern seaports, the memorandum said.

The proposed site has minimal Littoral drift and as such would hardly require any maintenance dredging during the years of operation. This will result in low O&M Costs.

Why Vizhinjam Port?, Its Advantages over other Ports. : Vizhinjam Port Project

 

[Skyline]

Proposed project aims to fulfill the need of providing Transshipment on Indian Coast (at present there is no existing Container Transshipment Terminal in India to cater to this need. Annual Container Traffic close to 4 Million TEUs is currently originating or destined to India through Sea route with CAGR of 14% during the last decade).

Vizhinjam is an all-weather port and the international shipping line is just one nautical mile off Vizhinjam coast.

The proposed site is on the INTERNATIONAL SHIPPING LINE, very close to the EAST-WEST SHIPPING AXIS.

The proposed site is endowed with natural depth of 24 m (which is by far the best compared to other ports in the world) as close as one Nautical Mile from the sea coast. There is no littoral sedimentation and due to natural depth availability, the site needs no dredging or minimal capital dredging requirements and thus low costs (as compared to the any other port in India within a reasonable distance from the East-West Shipping axis).

The depths at ports in New York, Southampton, Singapore, Dubai, Colombo, Hong Kong is 15 meters and requires dredging .

It has more advantages compared to Colombo port and if developed can harbour even Panamax class and futuristic vessels. It also satisfies the physical and hydrographical parameters of modern seaports, the memorandum said.

The proposed site has minimal Littoral drift and as such would hardly require any maintenance dredging during the years of operation. This will result in low O&M Costs.

Why Vizhinjam Port?, Its Advantages over other Ports. : Vizhinjam Port Project

Well, Competition is always good. Ports you have mentioned are major ports in the world, if they need more depth they will do it than any one else. This new port has to compete with 2 major ports in sri lanka, Colombo and Hambantota mainly, (There is another port between Colombo and Hambantota which promote tourism and for fun lovers) , Having a port is not enough there should be other facilities, airports closer to them ect.

Also need to mention there is a brand new city project called "Colombo Port City", which is about to build in the sea. All these projects are advantages to Colombo port.

Features | Sundayobserver.lk - Sri Lanka

 

[vram]

Hi Guys,

I am new joinee to this forum.Am a defense enthusiast, and have been checking here for updates for defense related news.
accessed this article here accidently. Also i am familiar with shipping industry through a lot of family members working in this field. Have nothing agianst Lanka personally though i am a tamilian . Just though will bring all of you attention to this report about the general nature of trade through. definitly a good read for more knowledge. What actually is interesting is that nearly 75 to 80% of trans-shipment through Colombo is for indian Ports. in other words any increase or decrease in trading will directly affect colombo shipments as well. This i can confirm through personal sources as well. It is well known in shipping circles that colombo acts as a gateway to indian trade routs just as HongKong and Singapore are for China.

Business Line : Industry & Economy / Logistics : Making Kochi port as prosperous as Colombo
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"How does Colombo handle such significant volume of container traffic and continue to remain at the 28{+t}{+h} place? Does Sri Lanka produce enough volumes of export–import cargo to feed and sustain this port? No. The value of Sri Lanka's exports and imports in 2010 was $8.3 billion and $12 billion, respectively. Exports amount to 20 per cent, while imports amount to 30 per cent of Sri Lanka's GDP.
The value of India's exports and imports in 2010-2011 is $250.5 billion and $ 380.9 billion, respectively. When India's export-import trade grows by 30 per cent, Colombo's container traffic seems to increase by approximately 20 per cent.
How does it happen? It happens because 79 per cent of Colombo's total container traffic represents cargo trans-shipped from Indian ports. Is it not in India's national interest that we make a determined effort to develop ICCT at Kochi to stop this flow of cargo to Colombo at an increased cost to Indian shippers?
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The Central government has the power under Section 407 of the Merchant Shipping Act, 1958, to permit relaxation, by which containerised cargo can be carried by both Indian and foreign shipping lines. The relaxation is sought for only in respect of containerised cargo, the percentage of which, in the total cargo handled at Indian ports, is unlikely to exceed 15 per cent.
The Central Government could make it clear that, while carriage of cargo along the coastal ports by Indian vessels is in national interest, it is equally in national interest to see that Colombo is not allowed to flourish at the expense of Indian ports.
Therefore, any policy change that the Government might make to attract that 79 per cent of cargo getting diverted to Colombo from Indian ports should also be seen in the best national interest.
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[SpArK]

Hi Guys,

I am new joinee to this forum.Am a defense enthusiast, and have been checking here for updates for defense related news.
accessed this article here accidently. Also i am familiar with shipping industry through a lot of family members working in this field. Have nothing agianst Lanka personally though i am a tamilian . Just though will bring all of you attention to this report about the general nature of trade through. definitly a good read for more knowledge. What actually is interesting is that nearly 75 to 80% of trans-shipment through Colombo is for indian Ports. in other words any increase or decrease in trading will directly affect colombo shipments as well. This i can confirm through personal sources as well. It is well known in shipping circles that colombo acts as a gateway to indian trade routs just as HongKong and Singapore are for China.


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First welcome to the forum.

Even i was voicing the same arguments here.. Colombo could be shut down if we have the political will.


With Vallarpaadam in Cochin and the new Vizhinjam port coming up, Colombo's almost 90% business can be routed to Kerala.

I have high hopes on these projects .

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[vram]

Thanks for the Welcome!

It is actually not the just internal indian business that can get routed through Cochin and the to be upgraded port in Tuticorin.
That is what is tragic! most of india's trade with middleeast as well as trans oceanic shipments from Africa,ME to Far east can be done the same. Can you Imagine the boost that Kerala and TN economies will get with this?
Instead most of our trade happens through tonnage in off-shore ports.This is basically not even because of the lack of infrastructure. It is mostly due to the stupid policies of GOI. It takes 10 days to unload a medium sized bulk carrier ship in JNPT. But 5 days in Colombo and 3 days in Hongkong. that is 5 days of business lost of the Ship due to this slowness in JNPT.

Here is another link on how Colombo is capitelizing in Indian Trade growth( From the horses mouth itself )
SLPA | Port of Colombo, Sri Lanka Ports Authority

 

[SpArK]

Thanks for the Welcome!

It is actually not the just internal indian business that can get routed through Cochin and the to be upgraded port in Tuticorin.
That is what is tragic! most of india's trade with middleeast as well as trans oceanic shipments from Africa,ME to Far east can be done the same. Can you Imagine the boost that Kerala and TN economies will get with this?
Instead most of our trade happens through tonnage in off-shore ports.This is basically not even because of the lack of infrastructure. It is mostly due to the stupid policies of GOI. It takes 10 days to unload a medium sized bulk carrier ship in JNPT. But 5 days in Colombo and 3 days in Hongkong. that is 5 days of business lost of the Ship due to this slowness in JNPT.

Here is another link on how Colombo is capitelizing in Indian Trade growth( From the horses mouth itself )
SLPA | Port of Colombo, Sri Lanka Ports Authority

Quite true.. They have been milking us for their own good and now inviting Chinese over to invest.

Time to grow some balls.

 

[SpArK]

Well, Competition is always good. Ports you have mentioned are major ports in the world, if they need more depth they will do it than any one else. This new port has to compete with 2 major ports in sri lanka, Colombo and Hambantota mainly, (There is another port between Colombo and Hambantota which promote tourism and for fun lovers) , Having a port is not enough there should be other facilities, airports closer to them ect.

Also need to mention there is a brand new city project called "Colombo Port City", which is about to build in the sea. All these projects are advantages to Colombo port.

Features | Sundayobserver.lk - Sri Lanka

Nope we dont even need to compete, we just need to complete.

Most of the transshipment containers are bound to India only.

The only ships that will be bound to Colombo for cargo is for Dilmah tea when the expected projects get completed.

 

[A.V.]

The number of trading done through IOR , i dont think colombo can be affected , there is place for 2 more new places .

The idea for idea should be to being the region under a common eye watch and sphere of influence, in this case the political will is what is needed.


P.S.:- Welcome VRAM do open a new thread on into forum for all our members to welcome you and know you better.

 

[vram]

Thanks a.v...actually i ended up here directly from google search

Incidently you are wrong my friend. Colombo will be most definitely be affected if GOI gets policies right to make indian ports popular. Most of the trade that happen in IOR will be only passing by if not for India located in the southern india.
even more a lot of prominent Sri Lankan analysts are also aware of this!

Port of Colombo – The way forward | DailyFT - Be Empowered
"
he transhipment container volumes over the Port of Colombo are almost totally dependent on volumes coming in/out of India. In fact 80% of the transhipment volumes handled by Colombo are either originating from or destined for an Indian Port.
From a Colombo Port container terminal perspective, it is not the best of situations to be in – i.e. being dependent on one customer, namely Indian volumes, for the major portion of the business or the very survival of the container terminal business."

 

[Yusuf]

Some times my shipment too comes via colombo. It does not make sense as mine comes to Chennai and so Colombo is not in route. Usually its Singapore though.

I had started another thread though about using Nicobar Islands for trans shipment. It can be a big draw as it sits on the the Malaccas.

But to tell the truth, business is so large, there is a place for everyone under the sun.

 

[vram]

Hi Yusuf,

Your Shipment comes from Colombo because unloading,Bill of loading, etc are faster and more efficient than landing in Chennai Port.
If it takes 5 day for a ship TAT (turn around time) in Colombo the same in chennai will be 10 days. That is 5 days of business lost for the ship which usually runs into Millions of dollars sometimes( Do you think any profit driven company will allow that? hence only PSU companies will use indian ports majorly for container shipment) . Consequently we also have now have a Sri lankan cottage industry of taking these shipments from colombo to South India and Vice versa including maintenance,insurance etc...
I know some Sri lankans in Chennai(there are quite a few incidently) who are employed in this business.Nice people and quite hard working as well. Never can understand all this animosity and strategic games when it all comes down to people to people every one just seems to be intent on making a living.