China slams Philippine leader for Hitler comparison

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  1. Ray

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    China slams Philippine leader for Hitler comparison

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    Philippine President Benigno Aquino warned the world against "appeasement" of China.

    Benigno Aquino told the New York Times that the world must learn a lesson from 1938, when the UK and France allowed Hitler his claims to Czech territory.

    China claims parts of the South China Sea which the Philippines disputes.

    The spat is the latest in a war of words between China and its neighbours.

    Mr Aquino called on the world to do more to support his country against China's claims to its nearby seas.

    "At what point do you say: 'Enough is enough'? Well, the world has to say it. Remember that the Sudetenland was given in an attempt to appease Hitler to prevent World War II," Mr Aquino said.

    The Sudetenland was part of what was then called Czechoslovakia before the UK and France agreed to allow Hitler to take it.

    The comments quickly drew the ire of China's official state news agency Xinhua, which published an article calling Mr Aquino "ignorant".

    The remarks "exposed his true colours as an amateurish politician, who was ignorant both of history and reality", the article said.

    China claims ownership of large parts of the South China Sea, including the Spratly Islands and the Scarborough Shoal, which lie off the coast of the Philippines.

    China says its claim stems from 2,000 years of historical convention, but the Philippines and Vietnam, among others, dispute this.

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    War of words
    The remarks are the latest in a war of words between China and the other countries in the region with which it has territorial disputes.

    Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe caused controversy at the economic forum in Davos last month, when he said that China and Japan were "in a similar situation" to Germany and Britain just before the outbreak of World War I.

    He said that strong trade ties did not in themselves preclude the outbreak of war.

    Mr Abe went on to criticise China's annual double-digit increase in military spending, saying it was a major source of instability in the region.

    In response, Xinhua referred to Mr Abe as the "disgraced Japanese prime minister".

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    Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe (r) was also criticised by the Chinese press

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    The comparison of how Germany swallowed up neighbouring countries/ areas of neighbouring countries, and the big powers of those times looking the other way and accepting the same and, what China is doing appears astounding, even if there is stark similarities.

    Quite an eyeopener.

    While China claims a vast swatch of SCS "based on 2,000 years of historical convention", one is well aware that much of it is folklore and myths and it is claimed that it is total fabrication of a fevered jingoism and xenophobia.

    Quite similar to the claims by Germany prior to WWII, except that Germany has better reasons, wherein there were people of German stock in the areas claimed by Germany.

    With the joining into the fray by Mr Abe, it appears that China's free run into the SCS to "capture'' more areas may not be feasible any more.

    But watch this space!
     
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    Good to know that we here in DFI aren't the only ones who see the comparisons between PR China and Nazi Germany. Now world leaders are expressing such concerns in public as well. Goes to show how the whole world is concerned about Chinese expansionism just as they were in 1938.
    @no smoking @t_co @amoy @CCP
     
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    The comparison is apt :thumb:
     
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    At 1938 Germany produce 8% of products of the world.

    At 2014 China produce 55% of products of the world, with almost all kinds of the natural resources,and with nuclear weapons.
     
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    Germans had the same feeling as yours then.
     
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    In 1938, I'm sure there must have been some who dismissed comparisons with WWI just as you are doing now. The world in 1938 was more integrated than it was in 1914, and in 2014, it is more integrated than in 1938. So what?
     
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    So, what do you want to say?
     
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    Just that you need to wake up from your slumber and make your government accountable. If China was a democracy, it would be harder for the government to go to war because it would then have to take people's opinions into account. An authoritarian, aggressive, expansionist China is not good for China and not good for the world either.
     
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    Are you really taking this kind of spit war seriously? How old are you?
     
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    Oh, really?

    The so called "democratic model" in this world---USA went to war times of China ever fight since 1949;
    Even our biggest democratic country--India went to more wars than China.
     
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    What has production got to do with this.

    Deutschland hegemony and xenophobia wanted Deutschland uber alles.

    China wan't Red China uber alles.

    中国首先
     
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    China's history will indicate that they have constant been at war and expanding.

    Even in modern times they have gone to war - Tibet, India, N Vietnam, Russia and so on.
     
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    I think he could be old enough to know history that you might not be so lucky being wet behind your ears.

    Further, his mind is free and not conditioned as yours to react to Chinese propaganda driven history.
     
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    What "world leaders"? Which "whole world"? Do they in your book equal to a small bunch like Philippines, Japan or India?

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    Did "the world" draw a parallel for US to Nazi Germany when Uncle got ride Noriega in Panama for drug trafficking, or Saddam in Iraq for WMD? Or did "the world" give a damn when Russia spanked Georgia for provocations?

    I believe "world leaders" would just shrug off Aquino's naughty analogy.
     
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    Palace urges China: Don’t focus on Aquino, join talks instead
    by Madel Sabater - Namit
    February 9, 2014 (updated)
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    Manila, Philippines – Malacañang yesterday urged the Chinese government not to focus on the recent statement by President Benigno S. Aquino III and participate instead on the arbitration proceedings before the international tribunal.
    Aquino, China, Philippines, maritime dispute, Manila Bulletin

    The Palace has called on China to focus on joining talks to address the territorial disputes and not to focus on President Aquino who recently likened China’s territorial assertion to Adolf Hitler’s occupation of territories in the past.

    President Benigno S. Aquino III drew flak from the Chinese media after he made his “Hitler” remarks where he compared China’s claims in the West Philippine Sea with Nazi Germany’s occupation of Czechoslovakia in the 1930s.

    In an interview with the New York Times last week, Aquino urged world leaders not to make the same appeasement and instead resist China’s wrong claims in the Philippine territory.

    Chinese Foreign Minisry Hong Lei said Aquino’s remarks are “inconceivable and unreasonable,” saying that the Chinese are “shocked at and dissatisfied with the remarks from the Philippine side.”

    Presidential spokesperson Edwin Lacierda, however, said the territorial dispute is now with the international tribunal.

    “What the Foreign Ministry Spokesman failed to address is that we have already brought this matter to arbitration, an arbitration proceedings which China and the Philippines signed up as well,” Lacierda said.

    The Palace official said China cannot have its way of having dialogue with the country as its nine-dash line involves several other countries.

    “How can you have a dialogue when the issue is multinational? So in that case, resolving a situation with one county will not necessarily resolve the conflict in other countries because this covers a number of countries,” Lacierda said.

    “All we’re saying is that we have a rules-based approach, we have endeavored to achieve peace through arbitration. We ask the world to support us in this endeavor and we ask China to join us in this arbitration proceeding. I think that’s not fairly shocking,” he said.

    Lacierda also stressed that the territorial dispute between China and the Philippines does not make the overall bilateral relations between the two countries.

    “I think we are responsible enough; both countries are responsible enough to ensure that there are many levels of exchange between the two countries. Patuloy po ang ating relations with China on different levels—tourism, etcetera, and cultural,” he said.

    The Palace official, meanwhile, welcomed the proposal of some Filipino-Chinese businessmen to conduct a dialogue with the Hong Kong and Chinese governments to resolve their respective issues with the country.

    The Hong Kong government has imposed sanctions on the Philippines by removing its visa-free privilege for diplomatic and official passport holders as the Philippine government stood its ground not to express its apology for the Manila bus hostage incident in August 2010.

    “If it will better the understanding between Hong Kong and the Philippines and it will improve relations consistent with our national interest, consistent with the position taken by Philippine government, why not?”Lacierda said.
     
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