China Shows Arunachal & Aksai Chin as part of China in Passport Maps

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  1. Daredevil

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    New row breaks out between India and China over maps

    New Delhi: A new territorial row has broken out between India and China. Sources in government have told NDTV that Beijing is issuing passports to its citizens which show a map that includes Arunachal Pradesh and Aksai Chin (in Ladakh) as part of China.
    India is retaliating by stamping these passports with its own version of the map, marking out its own territorial boundaries.


    New Delhi has not yet taken this up at an official and diplomatic level with China, the sources said.

    The Chinese map also shows South China Sea within its own territory. That too has been a sore point between Delhi and Beijing.
    This new episode in a series of boundary disputes between the two countries comes week before India's National Security Advisor Shiv Shankar Menon visits China for border talks. The disputes have often interrupted India-China relations, though most of them are considered mere "pinpricks".

    China had earlier refused to give visas to visitors from Arunachal Pradesh and Sikkim, claiming that they were Chinese areas. It has also started giving separate visas to visitors from the state of Jammu and Kashmir, claiming that it was not part of India.

    The inclusion of South China Sea has already been objected to by Philippines and Vietnam, who too have claims over it. For India too, this will be an irritant, since it has signed agreements with the government of Vietnam to explore under-sea oil and gas deposits. China has been blocking this by staking territorial claim over the entire sea.

    http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/n...ina-over-maps-296245?pfrom=home-lateststories
     
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    Earlier the Philippines and Vietnam filed protests when the disputed territories in the SCS were also included in the Chinese passport.
     
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    ever since chini are in bed with pakis. They have started doing ""ochi harkate""
     
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    Re: China Shows Arunachal & Aksai Chin as part of China in Passport Ma

    Chinese are provoking INDIA again. I think they have gone mad. Just after a new leader takes over, they have started irking INDIA again. Let us see what do they do next.....
     
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    Re: China Shows Arunachal & Aksai Chin as part of China in Passport Ma

    Let them sign up the whole world on papers. How do the wet dreams matter anyway.
     
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    NSA ,menon is running to bejing next week to sought this out
     
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    iam dying to fight these dedh footiyas
     
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    Re: China Shows Arunachal & Aksai Chin as part of China in Passport Ma

    we don't give a damn to what the chinis show in their passports:mad:!let them show the entire Indian sub-continent as part of their mandarin empire,the whole world know the truth about Arunachal Pradesh:rofl:!actually this shows the cowardness of the chini govt. who can't do anything else other than jumping around like a headless chicken:pound:,so they are doing all types of chilish things and making a fool of themselves in front of the entire world community
     
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    Re: China Shows Arunachal & Aksai Chin as part of China in Passport Ma

    the provocation is to remind us to improve the defence manufacturing - something we cant ever run away from - they can draw what maps they like - if we have the weapons we enjoy the territory and take back aksai or some other equivalent - that should be our aim
     
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    Re: China Shows Arunachal & Aksai Chin as part of China in Passport Ma

    If you look throughout history, China can only be a slave or master to other nations, I hope our naive Indians realize that!
     
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    Re: China Shows Arunachal & Aksai Chin as part of China in Passport Ma

    Simple.

    India should retaliate by stamping these passports with a map of Asia showing Tibet and East Turkestan as independent countries.
     
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    China puts Himalayan claims on passport map, India maps its own - Yahoo! News

    India is stamping its own map on visas

    NEW DELHI (Reuters) - India is stamping its own map on visas it issues to holders of new Chinese passports that contain a map depicting disputed territory within China's borders, the latest twist in tension in Asia over China's territorial claims.
    China's new microchip-equipped passports contain a map that marks its claims over disputed waters and also show as its territory two Himalayan regions that India also claims.

    The map means countries disputing the Chinese claims will have to stamp microchip-equipped passports of countless visitors, in effect acquiescing to the Chinese point of view.

    In response, India is issuing visas stamped with its own version of the borders, sources with knowledge of the dispute told Reuters.

    "The correct map of India is stamped on to visas being issued on such passports," said one of the sources, who declined to be identified.

    China's long-standing territorial disputes with Japan and Southeast Asian neighbors have grown heated in recent months.
    On Thursday, the Philippines responded angrily to the new passports, saying Chinese carrying the document would be violating Philippine national sovereignty.

    India and China fought a brief, high-altitude border war in 1962.

    The nuclear-armed neighbors have held multiple rounds of talks to resolve their disputed Aksai Chin and Arunachal Pradesh regions where they fought the war but have made little progress.

    In Beijing, Chinese Foreign Ministry Hua Chunying told a daily news briefing that China has selected the maps as background on the inside pages of the passports issued by the Ministry of Public Security in May.

    "The design is not targeting a specific country," Hua said. "We hope that the relevant countries take a rational and sensible attitude ... to avoid causing interference with normal Sino-foreign personnel exchanges."
     
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    India has lodged a strong protest against the incursion by issuing maps with its official stance on Arunachal and Aksai Chin alongwith every visa it issues to Chinese nationals entering the country.

    In fact, the Chinese strategy can be described as discombobulated. Because although the Chinese have claimed Sikkim in the past, the imprinted official map does not demonstrate the Chinese claim in totality and Sikkim is not laid claim to. In addition, senior Chinese diplomats are on a visit to Sikkim currently to sort out consular issues, which can only be seen as indication of Chinese admission of Indian suzerainty over Sikkim. All of these officials are carrying Indian diplomatic visas for India. Furthermore, a Chinese foreign ministry spokeswomen was quoted as saying these passports were shown to foreign embassy officials before they were issued, which is a blatant lie judging from the international outburst and condemnation. It seems to be that this is a violent Chinese lashing out at neighbors with whom it has territorial disputes, not entirely part of a coherent strategy.
     
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    Re: China Shows Arunachal & Aksai Chin as part of China in Passport Ma

    These kind of provocation will lead to nowhere but war. India is ill prepared for war ATM. Indigenisation and modernization of Indian defense industries should go hand in hand with defense procurement from foreign countries.India should not shy away from procuring off the shelf defense equipment ATM. Its better to be prepared than to be caught pants down. The present Chinese regime is on a war path not only with India but with many of its neighbors .Its time the Indian political class understood this and get prepared in a war footing or pay a heavy price latter.
     
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    mate we are neither ill prepared nor are we afraid of the chinis!and i don't think they currently have the capacity of waging a full fledged war with us.now the last time they invaded us in '62 we were totally unprepared for a war at that time,even with the pakis!our army was less than 200,000 in strength and they were equipped with obsolete weapons(for example our main battle rifle at that time was .303 Lee Enfield bolt action rifle while the chinis were equipped with automatic rifles and smgs).but the present situation is not at all favorable for them to invade even Taiwan let alone India.so i for one isn't even slightly worried about any possible chini invasion in the near future!:rolleyes:
     
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    Re: China Shows Arunachal & Aksai Chin as part of China in Passport Ma

    India is unlikely to go to war with China alone but will go as a part of an
    anti chinese alliance which there are many.
     
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    This is very typical eyeballing in Indo-China relations now. We should get used to it.
    There is a mini cold war brewing in Asia, everyone knows it in their bones.
     
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    Re: China Shows Arunachal & Aksai Chin as part of China in Passport Ma

    All of Asia (world) is developing anti Chinese sentiment(except the reject nations)
    Just wait it out Chinese will slip and get hammered.
     
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    PRC is testing India's threshold limit on various parameters & response patterns before they arrive on any conclusion surrounding bilateral border-dispute settlement talks aggressively pursued by India.

    GOI first reacted furiously on this particular issue but calmed itself down & then changed its position.
     

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