China should strengthen force on Indian border, researcher says

[LETHALFORCE]

Causes of World War II in the Pacific - World War II Causes - Cause of World War with Japan

The American oil embargo caused a crisis in Japan. Reliant on the US for 80% of its oil, the Japanese were forced to decide between withdrawaling from China, negotiating an end to the conflict, or going to war to obtain the needed resources elsewhere. In an attempt to resolve the situation, Konoe asked US President Franklin Roosevelt for a summit meeting to discuss the issues. Roosevelt replied that Japan needed to leave China before such a meeting could be held.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

then you proved your ignorance again,Japan in its heyday only managed to get control of less than one third of China and only cities,not countryside,China still has a well functioned government and millions of regular troops from both ROC government and CCP units,even Korean exile government was in China then,so can you define your concept of "defeated".

You must be blind on the ww2 map of japan i posted more than 1/3 of China and all of Manchuria
conquered by Japan All major Chinese cities conquered by Japan.

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[xizhimen]

that's the detailed international map,dont use cartoons here

 

[LETHALFORCE]

still looks like 1/3 and all major cities conquered by Japanese on Eastern seaboard.
East turkistan, Mongolia,Tibet were all viewed as independent nations on this
British ww2 map.

 

[xizhimen]

China and US were allies and China tied down almost half of the Japanese army,before US joined the war,it was already a stalemate casue Japanese stretched its supply line to long,cause tremendous fighting forces and rescources was tied in China and can not be deployed in the Pacific front,US stress was eased otherwise she would suffer much more and serious casualties.saying China already lost the war before US joining it is utterly baseless.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

China and US were allies and China tied down almost half of the Japanese army,before US joined the war,it was already a stalemate casue Japanese stretched its supply line to long,cause tremendous fighting forces and rescources was tied in China and can not be deployed in the Pacific front,US stress was eased otherwise she would suffer much more and serious casualties.saying China already lost the war before US joining it is utterly baseless.

losing 1/3 of your territory ,millions of people and all your major cities may not be a loss
to you but it is debatable. Again no individual effort or military victory forced Japan from China,
only 100% US involvement was the reason for Japanese surrender China had no infrastructure
left and US supplies was their only lifeline.

 

[xizhimen]

not all,China still had major cities like Chongqing ,Xian..even Russia lost some big cities in WW2,but Japan had never managed to control the rural China and that' where China's real strength was,at the time 95% of Chinese were farmers,what proves it prefectly is after WW2, ROC had all the cities and not much control of the countryside,CCP had the country China.the result we all know,in 3 years CCP took over the whole country.

 

[xizhimen]

the whole world knows that China won the war and there is plenty official document there to prove this fact,if you personally believe that China lost,that's your freedom,but the fact won't be changed by your personal opinions and that history was already written.

 

[t_co]

losing 1/3 of your territory ,millions of people and all your major cities may not be a loss
to you but it is debatable. Again no individual effort or military victory forced Japan from China,
only 100% US involvement was the reason for Japanese surrender China had no infrastructure
left and US supplies was their only lifeline.

In 1942, the Soviets were in a similar situation. They didn't dig themselves out of a hole, territory-wise, until their 1944 summer offensives. Had the war continued past 1945, many Japanese gains would have been rapidly reversed by the NRA in a similar fashion.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

the whole world knows that China won the war and there is plenty official document there to prove this fact,if you personally believe that China lost,that's your freedom,but the fact won't be changed by your personal opinions and that history was already written.

I am saying this clearly for last time China did not lose ww2. Chinese won ww2 because of
the allies and not much of their own chinese effort. All Chinese industry and manufacturing and
cities had fallen to Japan prior to a concerted allied effort to send supplies place embargos etc...
which saved China from Japan. All individual efforts by China failed against the Japanese.

 

[xizhimen]

I am saying this clearly for last time China did not lose ww2. Chinese won ww2 because of
the allies and not much of their own chinese effort. All Chinese industry and manufacturing and
cities had fallen to Japan prior to a concerted allied effort to send supplies place embargos etc...
which saved China from Japan.

you changed your tone,that's good,but prior to US joning in,China didnt' fall,the country still had millions regular army fighting and the war was far from over,that's different from what happened in France,France fell and they signed surrender.China as an ally party did her part and rightfully owned her a permanent seat in the UN SECURITY CONCIL.

 

[Sam2012]

No matter even if india spends 1 trillion on there defence per year.china will be a winner becuase they are natural born warrior and defeating them is next to impossible

china on the other hand should not deploy more than 2 division.they are more than enough for both defensive and offensive purpose at any scale against whole indian armed forces

I know chinese are born warriors & u pakistanis are born idiots

Have u heard of gurkha regiment ? they are stationed in North east only a fool can disagree they are born to kill :thumb:

If China wants war why are they not attacking Tawang & taking over , if 2 division is more than enough as per a dumb defence analyst like u ?

First grow up feel proud of ur strength not boosting ur step brothers

 

[Sam2012]

Landscape looks very flat in Chinese side of Tibet , In Indian north east it is very hilly & dense with forest

I wonder this would have helped chinese to build good infrastructure impressive though good pics:thumb:

 

[Sam2012]

PLAAF & IAF are yet to go head to head , i hope Su-30MKI goes head on against J-11B, J-10 , Su-27 & Su-30MKK

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/64/SU-30MKI-g4sp_-_edit_2(clipped).jpg

 

[xizhimen]

Landscape looks very flat in Chinese side of Tibet , In Indian north east it is very hilly & dense with forest

I wonder this would have helped chinese to build good infrastructure impressive though good pics:thumb:

Titetan plateu is not very flat,I guess they need to find a relatively flat place to have this exercise.only professional mountain climbers can take on those Himalaya peaks.

 

[Sam2012]

IAF means business

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Lets hope the best IAF Vs PLAAF in North east & Tibet:thumb:

 

[Sam2012]

Titetan plateu is not very flat,I guess they need to find a relatively flat place to have this exercise.only professional mountain climbers can take on those Himalaya peaks.

So if India & China go to War again which is remote possibility whoever is good in mountain warfare will have slight upper hand if im not wrong

But than both Army fighting , I would prefer PLAAF & IAF battle it out on those high altitute:thumb:

 

[W.G.Ewald]

 

[laughingbuddha]

Long range ADS and Prahaar launchers. Will stop anyone.

 

[jon88]

I am saying this clearly for last time China did not lose ww2. Chinese won ww2 because of
the allies and not much of their own chinese effort. All Chinese industry and manufacturing and
cities had fallen to Japan prior to a concerted allied effort to send supplies place embargos etc...
which saved China from Japan. All individual efforts by China failed against the Japanese.

I totally agreed with the statement. Without the allies, China will have a harder time. Likewise, America would not have won without the help of her allies fighting and pulling war resources from Germany and Japan. If both of this countries concentrated their war efforts against America, it would be a different story altogether.Of course America's allies will ensure this does not happen too.