China says South China Sea land reclamation 'justified'

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  1. Ray

    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    If one observes the 'claim lines and dots' of China, it will be observed that Scarborough Shoal,& Spratley Islands are closer to Philippines.

    Likewise the Paracel is closer to Vietnam.

    So, how come China claims them?

    At that rate, they may even claim Sri Lanka. After all, the Hui Admiral who was an eunuch, Ma He, did visit Serendip.

    And now they are reclaiming as if China owns the world!

    It is time that the imperialist design of China is thwarted before they become a Peril.
     
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    At least 4 Diego Garcias in the making to safeguard navigation freedom through SCS

    Spratlys
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    Safe for Communist Chinese shipping?
     
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    Srinivas_K Senior Member Senior Member

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    Expansionist China is supporting itself . Barbaric acts are clearly visible and countries around china have clear cut idea what China is doing.
     
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    Sure. See the maritime traffic flow through SCS -

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    South China Sea Shipping Lanes
    As a responsible UNSC PM, China needs to protect free passage like US in the Indian Ocean.

    Diego Garcia
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    Srinivas_K Senior Member Senior Member

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    The only pirate in SCS is China. Regarding Diego Garcia India will claim this island is a right way.
     
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    distance is never the persuasive factor,otherwise,many india's islands should have belonged to burma .
     
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    It is history and not making history as by China.

    And there is no dispute.

    Nor is there any hegemonic or imperialistic pursuit.

    Not any fraud 'ancient' maps being whipped up! ;)
     
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    falkland is claim by UK, hawii is part of US, so does guam. daiyu island is part of japan, yet its closer to taiwan. distance is never really a factor here.

    by history daiyu island should be part of taiwan or china. and china has ScS record in 1500's
     
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    Right, it was making history by Britain

    Really?

    As recently as the 1990s, ASEAN was worried about India pursuing hegemony in the IOR. It is only Indian weakness that keeps worry of that far from the minds of ASEAN policymakers today.

    :lol: India's sole claim to the islands is on the basis of being granted them by Britain. That is not any better than an ancient map.
     
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    A valid observation.

    The difference is that they were in occupation during the imperialist days, when the rule was decided by the imperialists and the colonialist.

    The same is applicable to the Chinese occupation of Inner Mongolia and area South of the Yangtse Kiang and Hwang Ho, which are the original homeland of the Han.

    The areas China now claims was not in occupation by the Chinese and hence the claim is, in modern days, is termed as aggression and violates of the Law of the Seas.
     
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    Reply As above.

    No issue of Indian hegemony since there is no issue of occupying any island or territory.

    So, what the worry about?
     
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    Pakistan would beg to differ. So would Sri Lanka.
    @Neo @HeinzGud
     
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    Pakistan and Ceylon are not ASEAN Countries to the best of my knowledge.
    The Chinese media is reporting them as ASEAN?
     
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    If you're referring to ASEAN (and not general Indian attempts at regional domination), you should see what their secretary-generals had to say in the aftermath of the 1971 Indo-Pakistani War...
     
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    I was replying to your contention about ASEAN concerned about hegemonic intentions of India.

    I have no idea what the Secy Gen of ASEAN said after the 1971 War.

    But suffice it to say, if they were alarmed by India assisting the Bengali Muslims of East Pakistan in liberating Bangladesh, their misconceptions of hegemony was soon dispelled since the Indian Army left as soon as the Bengalis established themselves.

    Therefore. your attempt to twist it to appear as hegemony is most mischievous.
     
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    Learn some history, my friend. Pakistan came into being as the 'OTHER STATE'.... which is other than India and its existence is in the anti-India rhetoric, without which Pakistan has no existence as a nation. So, the Pak Army has to continue to cry wolf to get its abnormally high budgetary allocation.
    Similarly, raising the India bogey is Sri Lankan politicians' shortcut to electoral nirvana!
    And a Chinese should say all this considering what you are doing to terrorise the states in SCS.
     
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    Obviously Pakistan and Sri Lanka won't surrender to growing IN presence in Indian Ocean. Unable to match her strength in size and numbers both countries are looking towards China and building facilities that will eventually pave way for Chinese naval bases in the region.
     
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    Yeah Sri Lanka would definitely won't surrender ( not that we want her to) and going by Pakistani logic would use the Indian supplied vessels against India, isn't it?
     
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    BTW, Sri Lanka is supporting Japan over ECS dispute. Is the sorority of Island nations more stronger than the relationship between China -Sri Lanka?
     

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