China reveals its cards for investing $20 billion in Pakistan

[Neo]

Thousnads of jobs right

But for whom local pakistanis or foregin chinese

U must have heard news in print or electronic that in africa chinese companies brought chinese locals to carry out job .locals didnt benefit.

Do some research about ongoining chinese projects in Gilgit Baltistan and you will get your answer.

 

[anoop_mig25]

Do some research about ongoining chinese projects in Gilgit Baltistan and you will get your answer.

No time for reserach

Why donot u post whether local pakistani got job or it went to forgin chinese and yes netural proof

 

[Neo]

Is it not an irony that same Pakistan found it essential to base USA U2 planes during cold war time for its percieved interest and now it the need to sell oneself to China...

The Cold War was by far a better and peacefull era for us yet the threat from Sovjets was genuine hence we agreed to grant bases under the SEATO/CENTO. Both organisations provided a security umbrella to Pakistan against Sovjet agression only and were designed to serve US' interests in the region.
Any defence pact with China will be designed to serve our own interests first, i.e. countering multiple threats from USA, India, Israel, Afghanistan and even some arab countries with hidden agenda.

 

[Neo]

No time for reserach

Why donot u post whether local pakistani got job or it went to forgin chinese and yes netural proof

locals in large numbers are working on the KKH, bulding of dams and roads. Only technical amd some security staff has been hired from China.

 

[Srinivas_K]

Pakistani think tank realises that under current circumstances a 20 year lease of a naval base to China in Gwadar is in national interests. Not only will it keep away US and India breaking Balochistan, it will open doors to billions of dollars in trade, investment and building of infrastructure.

Pakistani Think Tank ...... Mehhhh

Pakistan is ready to give any key location to lease for sake of getting investment and money. Pakistan has no option when it comes to investments. It is china that is offering some help for its own strategic reasons.

Earlier it is US bases now it is Chinese bases inside Pakistan.

It is a joke when Pakistani leaders talk about patriotism and sovereignty, as if they are defending some thing.

 

[bose]

The Cold War was by far a better and peacefull era for us yet the threat from Sovjets was genuine hence we agreed to grant bases under the SEATO/CENTO. Both organisations provided a security umbrella to Pakistan against Sovjet agression only and were designed to serve US' interests in the region.
Any defence pact with China will be designed to serve our own interests first, i.e. countering multiple threats from USA, India, Israel, Afghanistan and even some arab countries with hidden agenda.

Any Chinese military presence in Arabian Sea will be a direct threat to USA, Iran, Gulf States and definitly India's interests ... Do you think China who can not secure its interests at SCS properly will be able to provide security to Pakistan thousand of miles away... China has not come to Pakistan's help in 1965, 1971 and also 1999 history says that...

Any provocation from Pakistan trying to destabilize the region will have very serious conscequence... I hope Pakistan knows it...

 

[t_co]

locals in large numbers are working on the KKH, bulding of dams and roads. Only technical amd some security staff has been hired from China.

Based on draft memoranda and internal financials, a little under 60% of the project headcount at Gwadar and around 80% of the headcount on the KKH is Pakistani.

 

[Neo]

Pakistani Think Tank ...... Mehhhh

Pakistan is ready to give any key location to lease for sake of getting investment and money. Pakistan has no option when it comes to investments. It is china that is offering some help for its own strategic reasons.

Earlier it is US bases now it is Chinese bases inside Pakistan.

It is a joke when Pakistani leaders talk about patriotism and sovereignty, as if they are defending some thing.

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So UK, Germany, Japan, Korea and many other countries with US military bases have no sense of patriotism and souverignity?
Pakistan doesn't need to sell an inch of her territory to get investments. Under Mushsrraf FDI recorded as high as 7 billion in a single year.

We can do it again once we deal with security concerns.

 

[amoy]

Indian attempt to drive a wedge in the time tested Sino PAK partnership is futile. has the pattern been crystal clear that ALL of S. Asian countries have fallen victim to India's Beggar-thy-neighbour tactics? Its Southern bloc peers invariably are poor chaotic and trapped in all sorts of imbroglios where Indians can fish in troubled waters, Bangladesh, Nepal, Sri Lanka, Maldives"¦ unlike most nations on Chinese periphery benefit from China's rise and prosper even including China's rivals like Japan, S Korea, Taiwan, Singapore - as top notched performers.

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[Neo]

Any Chinese military presence in Arabian Sea will be a direct threat to USA, Iran, Gulf States and definitly India's interests ... Do you think China who can not secure its interests at SCS properly will be able to provide security to Pakistan thousand of miles away... China has not come to Pakistan's help in 1965, 1971 and also 1999 history says that...

Any provocation from Pakistan trying to destabilize the region will have very serious conscequence... I hope Pakistan knows it...

Once China has stablished the multi billion dollar energy corridor through Pakistan, she will be transporting upto 4 million barres of oil and gas to western provinces. She has all the right to defend such strategic route and we favor her so what can USA do to counter that? She's already lost us to Sino-Russian camp.

What can India do? Cry louder?

 

[ladder]

locals in large numbers are working on the KKH, bulding of dams and roads. Only technical amd some security staff has been hired from China.

KKH is a JV between Pakistan govt. and Chinese infra companies. And the share of workers is according to the percentage share of investment.

Should I post the news where locals were protesting that local govt. had not released their wages? No, no need I suppose you follow Pakistani news.

So, show a example where Chinese infra. company holding 100% work-share has recruited locals in numbers.

I would be happy if you know ( and point it out here) if your govt. has any kind of legislation in this regard?

 

[bose]

India will partner with USA, JAPAN, South Korea, Vietnam, Philippines, Indonesia, Malaysia and any other like minded friends to check Chinese ill intension to disturb peace in the Indian Ocean region...

China is a neo fascist regime out to steal land from its neighbors"¦

The ones ready to sell themselves will be dealt with as Sri Lanka is finding nowadays for hobnobbing with China"¦

very recently Maldives tried similar tricks we all know the outcome...

 

[bose]

Once China has stablished the multi billion dollar energy corridor through Pakistan, she will be transporting upto 4 million barres of oil and gas to western provinces. She has all the right to defend such strategic route and we favor her so what can USA do to counter that? She's already lost us to Sino-Russian camp.

What can India do? Cry louder?

India will not cry !! India knows what it takes to make others cry... we have made you cry in 1971 and you saw your all weather friend China's in ability to do anything... China is not a super power... with slowing down of Chinese economy we already seeing I do not see much into the stability as you call it...

 

[ladder]

Different times and different games. China has been a good neighbor, friend and an ally for more than 50 years and has never meddled in with our internal affairs nor pushed us to follow her foreign policies. Pakistan needs China as a front line ally more than we needed USA in 1953
and a lot more to offer to her than USA.

Ever appeared to you why Russia and China are so keen to include Pakistan in SCO?

But, I don't understand why Russia wants India too to be a member of SCO?


May be you can explain?

 

[Neo]

KKH is a JV between Pakistan govt. and Chinese infra companies. And the share of workers is according to the percentage share of investment.

Should I post the news where locals were protesting that local govt. had not released their wages? No, no need I suppose you follow Pakistani news.

So, show a example where Chinese infra. company holding 100% work-share has recruited locals in numbers.

I would be happy if you know ( and point it out here) if your govt. has any kind of legislation in this regard?

I am not going to waste time on some assumption only to prove you wrong. Chinese are very smart and commercial minded people. Why would the want to import ten to twenty times more expensive labor when better options are available. Pakistan is not some stupid African or Arab country who rely on imported qualified staff to build a simple road.

The point is that who ever is building, Pakistani people will benefit from it, period!

 

[Srinivas_K]

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So UK, Germany, Japan, Korea and many other countries with US military bases have no sense of patriotism and souverignity?
Pakistan doesn't need to sell an inch of her territory to get investments. Under Mushsrraf FDI recorded as high as 7 billion in a single year.

We can do it again once we deal with security concerns.

Japan and Germany lost the world war 2 reason why USA kept military bases so that they will not rise again.

Regarding South Korea and UK they are under USA's quasi rule.

Pakistan will not sell the territories but gift them to foreign countries like they did in the case of Kashmir, ceding it to China.

Unlike the west which generously gives aid and investments, chinese are tradesmen they only give their money when they expect a lot in return. Communist chinese are known for human rights violations and disregard for human values, Pakistan should be careful with this behavior of chinese.

The mind set of Pakistani leaders is like they worship any country which helps them to maintain their animosity against India. They show their frustration/(more of a cry) by using very good adjectives to praise any big friend they find.



Instead they should have realized that if they leave their hatred they do not need to depend on foreign countries and serve them.

 

[jmj_overlord]

Pakistani think tank realises that under current circumstances a 20 year lease of a naval base to China in Gwadar is in national interests. Not only will it keep away US and India breaking Balochistan, it will open doors to billions of dollars in trade, investment and building of infrastructure.

then why keep banging on the US door for financial and other aid ?

 

[ladder]

I am not going to waste time on some assumption only to prove you wrong. Chinese are very smart and commercial minded people. Why would the want to import ten to twenty times more expensive labor when better options are available. Pakistan is not some stupid African or Arab country who rely on imported qualified staff to build a simple road.

The point is that who ever is building, Pakistani people will benefit from it, period!

So, without wasting 4 lines replying to me, you could have simply said, you have answer to none of the points I raised.

Kiddo, try harder, your lack of ability is plainly visible in your post.

 

[Neo]

India will partner with USA, JAPAN, South Korea, Vietnam, Philippines, Indonesia, Malaysia and any other like minded friends to check Chinese ill intension to disturb peace in the Indian Ocean region...

China is a neo fascist regime out to steal land from its neighbors"¦

The ones ready to sell themselves will be dealt with as Sri Lanka is finding nowadays for hobnobbing with China"¦

very recently Maldives tried similar tricks we all know the outcome...

Grab land? There have been territorial disputes with some neighbors eversince 1953 and China has won a few.
You grabbed land in some territories, how does it make you any different.

We don't have territorial dispute with China and there won't be any in near future.

 

[Neo]

then why keep banging on the US door for financial and other aid ?

There's a difference between begging and negotiating financial assisitance. IMF will get all its money back with lucrative interest.
As far the US, she owes us billions in compensation as we have suffered $120 billion in fighter their war.

But how would you you understand, you're genetically biased about Pakistan as an average Indian can be.