CHINA Rapid spread of Christianity forcing official rethink

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  1. Ray

    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    Communist regimes, especially China, encourages uniformity and conformity since it then become relatively easy to control the population as the reactions can be easily determined. It leads to the Chinese Communist Govt's mantra of 'harmony'.

    Harmony with no dissent is the only way that the Communist Party can exists since unsavoury diktats can sometimes prove counterproductive to the existence of the Party and Govt leading to the Tienanmen Square incidents. Thus, if 'uniformity' and 'harmony' through mind control can be ensured, there can be no revolution to topple the Communists.

    However, 'foreign' religions, like Christianity and Islam, which promote alien ideas and mindsets and is contrary to the historic legacy enshrined in the Concept of Legalism where the King and the State is the sole arbiter of the peoples' good, sparks can fly. It is to the detriment of the manner of mind control that the Communists exert on its people.

    This rise in Christianity, which is a foreign religion and encourages foreign ideas, often beyond the realm of the religion, can be most dangerous for the health and unity of the Peoples' Republic since it can lead to ideas that are conterproductive to the manner in which the Chinese Communist Govt is giving direction to China.

    Notwithstanding the best efforts of the Communist Chinese Govt to run down foreign religions, including destroying the Churches or Mosques, or controlling the Priests, the foreign religions are on the rise, healthy and kicking including through 'illegal' Churches and Mosques.

    This is a dangerous trend for China and its march to being a genuine superpower.
     
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    Srinivas_K Senior Member Senior Member

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    This is an alarming change that is happening in China. West use the Vatican to project the softpower of Western civilization on the east.

    Every year they are spending billions in the name of aid and charity for this conversion drive only.

    The present trend in China is that they follow christian weddings where white is seen as the dominant color, traditional chinese use red as the good lock color.

    Chinese are also changing their names to the Western and Jew names.
     
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    The Chinese are changing to western names because they claim it helps them to interact with Westerners when doing business.

    There is indeed a practical problem with Chinese names.

    Now, if you ask a person whose name is Dr Hu, whose name you don't know with:

    "Good Morning, may I know what is your name?"
    He might reply, "Hu"
    You may think he is saying 'Who?'
    You will get confused and reply, "You".
    "Ewe"
    "No. You"
    And so it will go on that way with no result.

    You may see
    http://buzzsouthafrica.com/funny-chinese-names/ (disclaimer; this is a link where authenticity in name content cannot be ascertained)

    Therefore, an English name causes less issues.
     
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    I read on DFI some ones siggy ""When the Missionaries arrived, the Africans had the Land and the Missionaries had the Bible. They taught how to pray with our eyes closed. When we opened them, they had the land and we had the Bible".– Jomo Kenyatta"

    Religion and belief has always been the strategy of invaders since time immemorial.

    New ideas and beliefs are byproducts of reach and exposure. Its a risk trading China can't trade off.
    Unless
    CCP makes their own version of Bible replacing heroes with Mao and others.I wouldnt be surprised!!!
     
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    Mr @Ray there is also some obsession with Western culture in Asians which is making them to adopt Western names.
     
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    They actually have 'official' Churches and Mosques and manned by 'official' Priests and Maulavis.

    The sermons are first vetted by the Communist Party people to ensure it is in conformity with the Communist Han Chinese thought and then allowed for preaching. The Priests and Maulavis are selected by the Communist Party and not by foreign religious authority, like the Vatican.

    However, this has led to a rash in 'House Churches' and 'House Mosques' which are underground Churches and Mosques and are illegal.

    Regular crackdown on such religious places has not been able to wipe them out.

    Those nabbed are straight away sent to the Laogai (Reform through Labour prisons) and sentenced to long terms.
     
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    Chinese sadly have this infriority complex towards the westerners,thses evenglavics are poring in throught the west ,they target the poor and asked them to convert in return for money,its more like exploitation of poor. Look across china being an atheist country china is a religious heaven,most of the ppl who are coverting are either elderly people ,there was recently a report of China becoming largest christian country in the world in a decade from now. Vaticans and scandavian countries provide millions in aid to developing economies to NGO's to spread christanity.someone needs to chop their legs of before they spread like a wildfire.
     
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    Christians/ity uses soft power to convert people like "Christian Convents,Nuns, GLAMORIZING weddings,Christmas festival in Movies and finally Money"

    But these won't effect India 'coz we have plenty colorful festivals and Hindu groups (still only 3%).I hope India make ppl to ppl contacts with them and stop these conversions by exporting some festivals (holi,deepavali...).Anyway Christianity is not a problem unlike JIHADISM :rofl:
     
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    @Ray
    Sir, its also to be noted that there is an allegation that the UMBRELLA Protest in Hong Kong is sponsored by churches. If there is truth in it, then China is staring at a live wire
     
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    Chinese Communists are up a gum tree.

    They require western markets and they are well aware of the various religious lobbies that fuel the West.

    I saw a documentary on Al Jazeerah on the reality of the bombing of USS Liberty.

    What a cover up because if the Jewish lobby that worked against US interests.

    All those who spoke were American sailors who were on board the Liberty and commentators.
     
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    What religious lobbies fuel the west?
     
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    Is Islam fuelling Europe in an indirect way?

    Though the manner it is fuelling China is totally different.
     
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    China is aggressive when it comes to conflict of ideas.So an agressive policy is kept with China by the religious factions.
    With Europs its a mellowed down approach as they are allies of USA which provides the Pakistan(factory of terrorism) with funds and weapons. They dont want to aggrevate the situation with the west.
     

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