China Plays Bully

[SADAKHUSH]

So in the meantime, is the leadership of North Korea sitting by thinking of how to best prosper if hostilities break out among the other countries discussed here? KN does not seem to come up in the conversation, and I am seeing no KN flag on DFI. Did I miss anything?

As long as North Korea is china's puppet state, we will not be able to see their flag. China's behaviour is like a spider who is slow but persistent in weaving its trap for its preys.

 

[NTB]

Nothing personal, but your post does sound childish. Vietnam should learn how to get along with fellow SEA members first. They don't have too much trust on Vietnam yet. Besides, China is probably thought as enemy by some Vietnamese, philipino, but not common enemy for all SEA countries. You should get your facts straight.

Read my lips dude. As I said from the previous post [Once day]. Even now, Vietnam by itseft your China still dare not to do any futher beside try to bully unarmed fisher men. China scare to face-off to Vietnam for any reason by now. You join here for debate, but you don't read and don't understand then you should log off.

 

[NTB]

How u attack Shanghai? How can you stop PLA go into Viet?LOL
Ambush? Who will ambush ? Dead viets?LOL

China Gov is smarter than you that's why they will not push us hard because they knew we are capable of it.

 

[DMF]

Here the friends here are talking about China as a bully, but all agree to beat up China, haha, sounds like mafias are ganging up to bully some body. All the times I am here never see any Chinese member started a farce about wars against India or any other countries.
The south China sea has nothing to do with India, but India now has a "looking east policy", haha, same in 1962 India had a "forward policy" against China, if any problem, that's India's initiative
As the border dispute on land or on the sea, all results from the colonization by the Europeans, all the ASEA countries were colonies, at that old time, China have border agreements with the colonies' masters, now the master gone, but new countries inherited the old colonies also inherited the agreements with China about the south China sea. The south China sea have been quiet for a very long time. Now the oil found under the sea, India want a slice of the pie, so disputes rise again. Since the founding of new PRC, all the war fought by China were defensive, China fought in Korea and in Vietnam against USA for defending the Socialist block, fought India against the "forwarding policy", also fought Soviet on the border in defense. China fought Vietnam in 1979 because of Vietnam's invasion of Cambodia and fought on the border against Thailand, haha, you can see, China never bullied any body, but upheld the justice.
In Ming dynasty 500years ago, China's fleets sailed many times to SEA islands, but not bully any one, the fleet cost the Ming too much silvers, then the emperor stopped the sailing. But the westerns found the islands and took them as their own and make a fortune of it, that is the difference, you can see China never a bully .
Now China have a good relationship with ASE countries, there are always disputes between countries, we should looking at the grand picture.
But as for the Vietnamese friend here talking about a war to split China, your government will not agree with you, haha, Inside Vietnam, the south and north disputes on many things, the USA also like a color revolution to happen, you forget Vietnam a socialite country? If not because of China,haha, It time to worry about yourself dude.
The India government's attention is always on the ballot, when needed, will make a farce against China to wool the voters, Indian government very weak in action, actually China government always wish India can keep moving, not get troubles, not collapse, you know you have many kinds of people many languages, formed to be one country by the British, many dirt poor people, and so called Maoists are make troubles, if India in big problem, China get problem, our Pak friends may be will have a new idea of the world, our west frontier(you know where it is), and the energy line to the west, haha, China need India very much, but you Indian friends here in the forum only have wet dreams, don't know the situation.
The south China sea is the China's back garden lake, in 10 to 20 years, after China strong enough, the USA can not play the bully against us, China will handle the situation in a happy and easy way. Now China facing the containment: USA use Taiwan, Japan, South Korea to corner China, and India come to stir the water, all looking for troubles, under such situation what are you expecting from China?

 

[nimo_cn]

Read my lips dude. As I said from the previous post [Once day]. Even now, Vietnam by itseft your China still dare not to do any futher beside try to bully unarmed fisher men. China scare to face-off to Vietnam for any reason by now. You join here for debate, but you don't read and don't understand then you should log off.

Yes, dude, we read your lips. You are telling us we are fearful of you. And yes, this time the bully is scared, that is why we are called a bully.

What a funny thread!

 

[niceguy2011]

China Gov is smarter than you that's why they will not push us hard because they knew we are capable of it.

We know what is ur capability, may be more than u know.LOL
If I am wrong ,then tell me what is ur capability?LOL

BTW, do u think we didn't push u hard enough? LOL

 

[Defcon 1]

Here the friends here are talking about China as a bully, but all agree to beat up China, haha, sounds like mafias are ganging up to bully some body. All the times I am here never see any Chinese member started a farce about wars against India or any other countries.
The south China sea has nothing to do with India, but India now has a "looking east policy", haha, same in 1962 India had a "forward policy" against China, if any problem, that's India's initiative
As the border dispute on land or on the sea, all results from the colonization by the Europeans, all the ASEA countries were colonies, at that old time, China have border agreements with the colonies' masters, now the master gone, but new countries inherited the old colonies also inherited the agreements with China about the south China sea. The south China sea have been quiet for a very long time. Now the oil found under the sea, India want a slice of the pie, so disputes rise again. Since the founding of new PRC, all the war fought by China were defensive, China fought in Korea and in Vietnam against USA for defending the Socialist block, fought India against the "forwarding policy", also fought Soviet on the border in defense. China fought Vietnam in 1979 because of Vietnam's invasion of Cambodia and fought on the border against Thailand, haha, you can see, China never bullied any body, but upheld the justice.
In Ming dynasty 500years ago, China's fleets sailed many times to SEA islands, but not bully any one, the fleet cost the Ming too much silvers, then the emperor stopped the sailing. But the westerns found the islands and took them as their own and make a fortune of it, that is the difference, you can see China never a bully .
Now China have a good relationship with ASE countries, there are always disputes between countries, we should looking at the grand picture.
But as for the Vietnamese friend here talking about a war to split China, your government will not agree with you, haha, Inside Vietnam, the south and north disputes on many things, the USA also like a color revolution to happen, you forget Vietnam a socialite country? If not because of China,haha, It time to worry about yourself dude.
The India government's attention is always on the ballot, when needed, will make a farce against China to wool the voters, Indian government very weak in action, actually China government always wish India can keep moving, not get troubles, not collapse, you know you have many kinds of people many languages, formed to be one country by the British, many dirt poor people, and so called Maoists are make troubles, if India in big problem, China get problem, our Pak friends may be will have a new idea of the world, our west frontier(you know where it is), and the energy line to the west, haha, China need India very much, but you Indian friends here in the forum only have wet dreams, don't know the situation.
The south China sea is the China's back garden lake, in 10 to 20 years, after China strong enough, the USA can not play the bully against us, China will handle the situation in a happy and easy way. Now China facing the containment: USA use Taiwan, Japan, South Korea to corner China, and India come to stir the water, all looking for troubles, under such situation what are you expecting from China?

yes, attacks at tibet and india were part of chinese defensive policy, weren't they??

 

[Tshering22]

We already have a pact, it's called Association of South East Asian Nations (ASEAN). This has been in existence since the 1960s but did not get much attention since the member countries were not very important until now. At the moment this association is still mainly centered around economics with little politics since members have agreed as core value not to interefere in each other's internal affairs. But every now and then security matters creep up into the agenda.

Expect our association to gain more importance in the next 10-20 years as South East Asian countries mature economically.

I think you need to upgrade from being just an economic bloc into a military block. Only that will help build a strong SEA region. A lot of global trade passes through SEA, including hefty amounts from our country. If PLAN has to be kept within limits of its own region, SEA will have to be strong (and we will need to get rid of this government). There are a lot of tensions between Thailand and Cambodia for silly reasons that are common to both. ASEAN should resolve to close this case ASAP.

Think about a military alliance with the following combination that ASEAN could be:

- Singapore's and Malaysia's economic might with state-of-the-art military equipment.
- Vietnam's battle-hardened experience and mastery over unconventional warfare.
- Indonesia's massive manpower resources and rising profile in SEA region.
- Burmese and Laotian emergence into a strong, decisive and participating nation.
- Thailand's strategic location and modern equipment with Philippines' key location.
- Brunei's massive oil wealth.

ASEAN would be the next power bloc in the region; if not to influence and dominate Asia, at least to defend itself together like EU and NATO.

 

[SPIEZ]

Here the friends here are talking about China as a bully, but all agree to beat up China, haha, sounds like mafias are ganging up to bully some body. All the times I am here never see any Chinese member started a farce about wars against India or any other countries.
The south China sea has nothing to do with India, but India now has a "looking east policy", haha, same in 1962 India had a "forward policy" against China, if any problem, that's India's initiative
As the border dispute on land or on the sea, all results from the colonization by the Europeans, all the ASEA countries were colonies, at that old time, China have border agreements with the colonies' masters, now the master gone, but new countries inherited the old colonies also inherited the agreements with China about the south China sea. The south China sea have been quiet for a very long time. Now the oil found under the sea, India want a slice of the pie, so disputes rise again. Since the founding of new PRC, all the war fought by China were defensive, China fought in Korea and in Vietnam against USA for defending the Socialist block, fought India against the "forwarding policy", also fought Soviet on the border in defense. China fought Vietnam in 1979 because of Vietnam's invasion of Cambodia and fought on the border against Thailand, haha, you can see, China never bullied any body, but upheld the justice.
In Ming dynasty 500years ago, China's fleets sailed many times to SEA islands, but not bully any one, the fleet cost the Ming too much silvers, then the emperor stopped the sailing. But the westerns found the islands and took them as their own and make a fortune of it, that is the difference, you can see China never a bully .
Now China have a good relationship with ASE countries, there are always disputes between countries, we should looking at the grand picture.
But as for the Vietnamese friend here talking about a war to split China, your government will not agree with you, haha, Inside Vietnam, the south and north disputes on many things, the USA also like a color revolution to happen, you forget Vietnam a socialite country? If not because of China,haha, It time to worry about yourself dude.
The India government's attention is always on the ballot, when needed, will make a farce against China to wool the voters, Indian government very weak in action, actually China government always wish India can keep moving, not get troubles, not collapse, you know you have many kinds of people many languages, formed to be one country by the British, many dirt poor people, and so called Maoists are make troubles, if India in big problem, China get problem, our Pak friends may be will have a new idea of the world, our west frontier(you know where it is), and the energy line to the west, haha, China need India very much, but you Indian friends here in the forum only have wet dreams, don't know the situation.
The south China sea is the China's back garden lake, in 10 to 20 years, after China strong enough, the USA can not play the bully against us, China will handle the situation in a happy and easy way. Now China facing the containment: USA use Taiwan, Japan, South Korea to corner China, and India come to stir the water, all looking for troubles, under such situation what are you expecting from China?

You seem to make some points, rather than arguing I would like to know about certain things

1) Chinese talk about peacefull rise, but why have they placed an army along Tibet after so many years, when therewasn't any forward movement? What reason was it done for ?

2) Why hasn't the Chinese shown any interest in South China sea before, if it was their territorial waters, why didn't they place a naval contingent so far?

3) This one has bugged me for a longtime, after 1962 war and for such a long time, China never seemed to think about Arunachal Pradesh etc, why or from where has this sudden interest arisen?

Debate, do not troll or LOL.

 

[Tshering22]

Pacific Asia Sea is belong for SEA and that a precious treasure for SEA nations. SEA never ask Chia permission Before and not for After. U shape from China is only for ignorance/arrogance for Chinese politicians.

I wish our government did not have the current traitors and had half the guts of what Viet Cong had in your war.