China-Pakistan war games along Rajasthan border

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  1. ejazr

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    China-Pakistan war games along Rajasthan border - Times Of India

    JAISALMER: Pakistan and China have launched joint war games barely 25 km from the international border along Jaisalmer-Bikaner districts of Rajasthan.

    The brigade-level military exercise by the People's Liberation Army's 101 Engineering regiment began last week and will continue for one month. Independent sources said this was the first time that Chinese troops were detected along India's western border.

    According to information from intelligence sources, China is extending all possible help to Pakistan militarily. After assisting in oil and gas exploration in Pakistan, China is now working in close cooperation with it in India's western sector, providing Pakistan with tank upgrade technology and unmanned air vehicles (UAVs).

    Officials contacted at the Army headquarters in New Delhi said they had "no specific information" about such an exercise. Another official said Pakistan Rangers conduct annual exercises but there was no information about the ongoing operations.

    An intelligence source said the PLA's engineering battalion along with Pakistani soldiers are on an exercise on how to take out tanks and other heavy military vehicles from marshy areas, and how to make way for the infantry by constructing bridges.

    The places where these operations are on are Suryaan and Chor, near Sem Nala in Rahimiyaar Khan in Pakistan, adjoining Tanot-Kishangarh area along Jaisalmer. There is an entire brigade of China for the military exercise there.

    The source also said that the Chinese battalion along with Pakistan forces are practicing formations and operations along Bikaner district of Rajasthan. One officer, who refused to indentify himself since he is not authorized to speak, said the Chinese army along India's western border in Pakistan in the name of military exercise is "really surprising, and could prove strategically dangerous for India".

    "China under the garb of military exercise has reached India's western border. This can't but be a matter of concern for us," he said.
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    IF this is true, this is pretty much the end of any belief that we can have friendly relations with China. This should mean that India should openly build alliances and cite this exercise as the primary reason.

    China should be told in no uncertain terms that military relations with Pakistan at this level is unacceptable. And if it can't respect the himalayas as a boundary of sphere of influence then it should be ready to face India as an enemy
     
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  3. Ray

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    Pakistan requires all the help in the world.

    It appears that she is breathing her last!

    China is her ventilator!

    The Chinese should boost Pakistan along this border so that India will find the vacuum on the Tibet border!
     
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    The Pakis are really desperate, aren't they? I mean, this is the height of desperation we can see from them. China has truly become Pakistan's life support system rather than just a benefactor and friend.

    No wonder they got that saying "Higher than oceans and deeper than Himalayas" or whatever it is...:lol:


    Then what is Pakistan doing on itself?
     
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    The Messiah Bow Before Me! Elite Member

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    We should conduct war games with japan and vietnam is south china sea.
     
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    We are a;ready conducting it with JAPAN. earthquake affected exercise for this year else it would have happened this year as well.
     
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    The Japanese won't participate in such an exercise without the involvement of US.
    But having one with Vietnam alone would cause some sleepless nights in Beijing.
     
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    This is extremely serious news. If true, India should issue a demarche to both Pak and China to clarify the purposes of this exercise. If true, India should shed all hopes of any sort of warm relationship with China, and now firmly pitch itself in the anti-China camp along with Japan, Australia and the US.

    This also calls for an acceleration of nuclear weapon and delivery vehicle design and production. With Pak and China officially threatening to launch combined war against India, the no-first use doctrine should be abolished and it must be made clear that any aggressive measures will invite all out nuclear war.

    Where are our so-called Chinese forum "friends" now?
     
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    KU, the no first use is against non nuclear armed countries, not against nuclear armed adversaries.
     
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    ^^Are you sure? I've never seen any Indian government making that distinction. It seems no first use applies to any adversary, whether nuclear armed or not.
     
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    Yusuf GUARDIAN Administrator

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    Recent utterings from the powers to be in the babudom shows a subtle shift in policy though it is not declared as such in writing.
     
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    The biggest babu of them all seems quite non-committal:

    Govt unlikely to change its no-first-use nuclear policy - India - DNA

     
  13. Tshering22

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    It was written long time back man and mentioned as well. NFU is for NON-NUCLEAR countries only. Not against nuclear adversaries that are grabbing our territory in a full blown war.

    Besides, NFU is a toilet paper's worth when things get that nasty.
     
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    We are bringing them down without moving a soldier. It speaks volume of India's conventional superiority over both sino-pak nexsus.
    We are going to have good hunting time at time.

    BTW there is no harm to press the paddle like KU has said.
     
  15. Phenom

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    We shouldn't change the NFU policy, that would achieve nothing other than bringing in bad publicity for the country. Besides India doesn't need nuclear weapon to defend itself. Even a combined Sino-Pak army would not be capable of taking large chunks of our territory, so the need for using a nuclear weapon doesn't arise.
     
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    Actually yes. NFU policy change is not required. We are not the US or Russia that we can take out enemy nukes in a first strike.
     
  17. LETHALFORCE

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    This is a positive it should give us access to even better weapons and technology.
     

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