China naval fleet seen off northern Japan

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  1. W.G.Ewald

    W.G.Ewald Defence Professionals/ DFI member of 2 Defence Professionals

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    China naval fleet seen off northern Japan - FRANCE 24
     
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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    Russia will not be pleased!
     
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    no smoking Senior Member Senior Member

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    Yes, an indian said so after reading a japanese newspaper!
     
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    Mr. Ray just wants to see conflicts between China and other countries. According to some unbiased source, a fleet of 16 Russia navel ships also passed the same strait. So why will Russia not be pleased? Because they don't make the headline even they deployed more ships.

     
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    I always thought some Ex-high ranking officer should be quite experienced and knowledgeable about this world due to his age...but unfortunately after years observation ,it seems those posts we read here and there were quite childish ,ignorant and young cynic style...obviously some member prefer those unreliable source to learn and understand this world ,especially about some neighbouring country, and those sources or websites won't tell you what's really going on but some so called artifactitious story combining some fact and more Lies...

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    right after the 3 days Russia-China Joint navy exercise, Russian Pacific Fleet recieved the direct emergency order from the Moscow to form a Task Force for high seas training of this year...they went throught the Soya Strait into the Pacific Ocean on 13th July.

    http://www.mod.go.jp/js/Press/press2013/press_pdf/p20130714-1.pdf -------------Japan MOD report
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    and PLA navy TF separated into two parts:

    DDG115,116,FFG 538 546, AUX 881 would continue their own high seas trainging organized by the PLAN north sea fleet as planned...they went throuth the Soya Strait following the Russian fleet , about 10 hours later.

    http://www.mod.go.jp/js/Press/press2013/press_pdf/p20130714-2.pdf -------------Japan MOD report
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    DDG 169 and 171 sailing back to the home port via Tsushima Strait. they were also spotted by the Japanese on July 13th...

    http://www.mod.go.jp/js/Press/press2013/press_pdf/p20130713.pdf -------------Japan MOD report

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    the Russian and China's vessels spotted by the Japanese P3C...

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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    There is no ban on any international newspaper, including Chinese ones, in India.

    Free Speech, Free Thought and Free Choice, inter alia other highlights of a Free Society.
     
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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    Au contraire mon frere, I am all for peace and against activities that can be construed to be aggressively military.

    By your stating According to some unbiased source, does not make it the Gospel Truth, or does it?
     
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    Isn't it a typical Chinese Communist style of response to issues that does not suit the Chinese official view?
     
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    Isn't it a typical Chinese Communist style of response to issues that does not suit the Chinese official view?
     
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    Obviously Russia and China see Japan as a pillar of the "Pivot to Asia Pacific"

    On 14 July after the joint drill, Russian fleet also passed through La Perouse (the Soya Strait). on 15 July Tu-95 and IL-20 were found near Japanese airspace.

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    Japan indeed is one of the pillars in the furtherance of the US policy in the Pacific.

    Russia continues to view US in the same way as it did before as far as its strategy is concerned.

    It is wise of them to rope in China as their bulwark on the Pacific coast.
     
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    Why would Russia view PLAN vessels which just left a Russian Port, having jus completed naval drills with the RUSSIAN Navy, passing through INTERNATIONAL waters as an aggressive act?

    Find something else anti-China to prattle on about.
     
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    Passing international water is fine.

    Intent is what requires analysis!
     
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    What intent can you discern, then? How could the Russians perceive this in a negative way?
     
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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    Ity is not Russia that has got US' back up.

    Russia i a spent force.

    It is China.

    Put two and two together and it does not add up to three!
     
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    And you said so on reading an Indian reply...
    writing as if what ever your newspapers quote or write is true. don't let us get start on this, stick to topic.
    Thanks!!
     
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    PLAN is definitely sending a message to Japan regarding it's size and reach.

    Asia Times Online :: Chinese navy powers into new waters

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    Tension with Japan rises over Chinese warships | Asia-Pacific | BDlive

     
  20. no smoking

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    You didn't grab my point: It is rediculous that Mr RAY can get his impression that Russia will not be pleased. Why they should be worried?
    They already settled their land and sea border with Chinese.
    They know currently Chinese is focusing Japan and US--the alliance that China will be struggling with in next 3 decades in its neighbourhood.
    They know that Chinese would need their support as much as they need Chinese.

    one of problems with indian is that most of indians always see things emotionally, not objectively.
     
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    Certainly, some DFIers might be more emotional than objective, but let's not generalize about an entire nation of 1 billion people.

    Indeed, if we did want to think about that issue, then the aggregate behavior of Indian citizens does show that they are often more objective than emotional, not least when it comes to voting for politicians on the basis of direct material benefits like TVs, ethnic-specific work quotas, and subsidized food.
     

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