China must teach Japan a lesson, says Chinese daily

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  1. Yusuf

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    Global times is become "gudgudi times". They keep coming up with all kinds of statements every other day. Best part is we know China really does not have the courage to cross the line.

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    BEIJING: A lesson is necessary to dispel Japan's contempt toward China, said a state-run Chinese daily on Wednesday, a day after the Japanese government inked a deal to buy the disputed Diaoyu Islands.

    A strongly worded editorial - "Discard illusion of friendly ties with Japan" - in Global Times said that Sino-Japanese relations suffered a serious blow on Tuesday when the Japanese government signed a deal to purchase the Diaoyu Islands with the self-proclaimed "owner".

    "The friendly ties between the two countries established in the 1970s collapsed completely," it said.

    The daily added: "Chinese anger of over a century toward Japan was awakened Tuesday, and will in turn affect Japanese feelings toward China. It appears inevitable the two sides will be overwhelmed by hatred again now that more conflicts can be expected. China needs to be prepared for further deterioration of bilateral ties. For Beijing, the future priority isn't to maintain stable ties, but to protect its core interests as Sino-Japanese relations sour."

    The editorial said that though China was committed to building friendly ties with neighbours, the Diaoyu issue has turned China and Japan into opponents.

    "China isn't used to having an adversary close by.

    "...Japan inflicted painful atrocities against China in the past. It is now more developed than China, but is in decline. The balance of national power is shifting between the two. With such a close opponent, China can be spurred to action," it said.

    The daily noted that Japan depends on the Chinese market more than China does on the Japanese market.

    "A political confrontation will bring insignificant economic damage to China," it said. "...with China's nuclear deterrence, Japan is less likely to launch a military attack on China."

    It said that China has been advocating friendly ties with its neighbour, but "Japan has created enough troubles for China over the years".

    "But its behaviour toward the US and Russia demonstrates its inferiority toward strong countries. China cannot repeat what the US and Russia did to Japan. But a lesson is necessary to dispel its contempt toward China..."

    Increasing its shrill pitch, the editorial went on to say that China is accumulating strength with its fast development.

    "It can fully show this strength to Japan in a future conflict to reverse Japan's attitude toward China," it warned.

    "Keeping friendly neighbouring ties is a good policy. But it cannot be achieved through one-sided begging and compromising."

    The disputed islands in the East China Sea, which are also claimed by Taiwan, lie on a vital shipping route and are surrounded by large hydrocarbon deposits beneath them.

    Japan says it has controlled the islands since 1895 until its surrender at the end of World War II. The islands were controlled by the US from 1945 to 1972 and subsequently returned to Japan's control. China claims the islands' discovery and control since the 14th century.

    China and Taiwan started to lay claims on the islands in the 1970s when surveys showed the area was rich in hydrocarbons.

    Tensions flared between Tokyo and Beijing, after Japan last month arrested 14 Chinese nationals, including activists from Hong Kong, and deported them over a protest landing on Uotsuri, the largest of a group of disputed isles.

    China must teach Japan a lesson, says Chinese daily - TOI Mobile | The Times of India Mobile Site
     
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  3. asianobserve

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    :rolleyes::taunt1::taunt::fp::cry:
     
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    trackwhack Tihar Jail Banned

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    Where is that iceberg 50 cent troll who says 'Actions speak louder than words'?

    The Japs must explode a nuke, so should Vietnam.
     
  5. ice berg

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    Did I get under your skin again?:lol:

    Get thicker skin then.
     
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    lesson???? ohhh it means china will teach a lesson. lesson no. 1

    don't underestimate ur enemy
     
  7. Bhadra

    Bhadra Defence Professionals Defence Professionals Senior Member

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    you mean explode over Chinese territory ??

    Hmm .....
     
  8. Bhadra

    Bhadra Defence Professionals Defence Professionals Senior Member

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    Lesson Number Two: Do not underestimate the friends of your enemy ....
     
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    Threats like that is going to result in Japan changing their constitution to allow them to have a military and they will start building nuclear weapons. Some estimate Japan could have hundreds of nuclear weapons in a couple of years.
     
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    trackwhack Tihar Jail Banned

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    If they re-process their spent fuel, in 60 days time they will be sitting on 10 tonnes of weapons grade plutonium. Do the math. They have 33 GWE of nuclear capacity installed. To put things in perspective, India has 4 GWE of installed capacity.
     
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    What about delivery system's, i know they can modify their F-2's to carry nuclear weapons but what about BM and CM ? :hmm:
     
  12. average american

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    F35 could carry nukes, nothing China has could stop it.....really both China and Japan should agree to some sort of arbitration and not let this get out of hand. It does seem like the jingoism is comming from China. The problem about giving in to threats they never stop comming.
     
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    trackwhack Tihar Jail Banned

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    90% of the trouble between China, Japan, the Korea's, phillipines etc can be resolved peacefully, if the American war machine packs up and goes home. Again thats only a matter of time.
     
  14. LETHALFORCE

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    America's grip on the Pacific is vital for USA to maintain it's superpower status. I
    don't see USA letting this go so easily?
     
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    trackwhack Tihar Jail Banned

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    Of course, not easily. It will come down to how long can they afford to pay for all this. 16 trillion and counting.
     
  16. LETHALFORCE

    LETHALFORCE Moderator Moderator

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    True but remember during this economic collapse military spending has not been cut.
    If USA loses it's military power USA has nothing to fallback on -no economy left and no
    manufacturing base left just a ton of debt no money to rebuild. USA's future depends
    on it's military power and space technology.
     
  17. average american

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    Of course if the USA could pull back,, first China would take care of their problems with Japan, then India. but even now India dont seem all that upset that upset that China occupies some 25,000 sq miles of India. Is that because India is so understanding or afraid?
     
  18. LETHALFORCE

    LETHALFORCE Moderator Moderator

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    China is in the UN security council and uses it fully towards it's benefit.
    India is a nuclear power it can take care of itself. There is also talk of
    an Asia NATO possibly developing in Shanghai corp that India can possibly
    join, most Asian nations choose to solve their issues without third party interference.
    Japan is more dependant on USA than India. USA has done very little
    to protect it's pacific allies in recent incidents? Being a superpower USA is
    probably more afraid of China than India is. The biggest fear USA has now
    is there is very little non military leverage against China. That 25,000 sq
    miles has many Indian troops on it.
     
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  19. roma

    roma NRI in Europe Senior Member

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    hi Mr Avwerage - errr talk is cheap , sir ....suitable nice name

    tell me one instance where usa has confronted china - and won ! - korea ? you lost - vietnam ? you lost by a mile !

    in 1962 chou enlai made a deal with nehru ( i hope, with your average knowldege you know who they are are?) - in it he proposed a Swop of disputed territories

    he proposed it after seeing indias pm mr nehru give 33% of ksahmir away to pakistan - without a fight - just a give-away

    although nehru didnt outright accept chou's offer , neither did nehru take ANY serious actin to arm troops at the border

    similarly prc consulted the pak govt of that day to cede their claim of that part of kashmir which prc now hold - the pak govt ceded that territory to prc

    why dont you ask if pak was afraid ? why do you only ask if india was afraid ?

    so to say the prc and india had a war - is not the whole story - it wasnt a war rather it was a reluctant give-away , in the style of our wonderful give-away expert , Mr Nehru

    now if that sounds ludccrous to you , then may i remind you of your very own vietnam policy where you werent sure if you really wanted to fight - or if i may quote you very own george bush senior " the american soldier was asked to gight with one arm tied behind his back " sounds familiar ? ....well dont fell too bad , seriously - becos nehru beat you to it - he asked the indian soldiers to do just that a decade or so earlier !
    btw it is also rumoured that he gave-away the cocos islands to burma

    today , belatedly, many of us indians on this forum and indeed elsewhere are questioning nehru's policy of non-arming soldiers on prc borders and of giving giving 33% of kashmir to pak

    you also fail to notice that india is still occupying the 70% of disputed territories claimed by prc - why dont you ask china why they are afraid of taking arunachal pradesh which is claimed by them and occupied correctly ) by india ?

    you also fail to ask why china is afraid of taking mongolia, claimed by china after russia had covertly warned them not to try ?

    you also failed to ask why china is afraid of taking their claim of tuva russian region ( currently occupied by russia )

    you also failed to ask why china is afraid to take the coastal territory of manchuria region ( including and north of vladivostok ) - which was china territory but taken by russians and occupied by russia today ?

    very average indeed .
     
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    China refuses the idea of turning Shanghai corp into a NATO-like military group.

    This kind of interference is not free.

    This is the most rediculous statement I have ever seen. USA is more afraid of China than india is? Funny! Afraid of China for what?
    Currently in Asia, there is a "war"-- a spit war! What do you expect USA to do? Sending the ship to help so its ally can feel confidence before the camera?
     
  21. LETHALFORCE

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    India has troops at the Chinese border I don't see any US troops involved in protecting Pacific allies??
    India says it nuclear missiles are made for China I have not heard USA make any statements like this.
    USA has accepted one China theory India has not.:tibet:
     
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