China launches Asia's largest helicopter .

[nimo_cn]

Come on, my Chinese fellows, why are you bothered by these Chinese-stuff-being-copies complaints?

Everytime our Indian counterparts resort to calling our weapons copies, it only means one thing, they have built nothing comparable to our stuff. It is a common debating tactic employed by losers, we can't strip that privilege of them.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

What does that got to do with your claim that space reserch is based on archiving
from the 80s? Seriously, dude, dont try to defend that ridiculous claim....

Big plans? Sure, "plans" while the chinis has already started.

Hopefully those magical archives can help your guys too.

Have a look at you module with Older Russian Module, you will get your answer.. just Google

'Chinis' started what we have done in mid 80s ( Search for Soyuz T-11 on the 3 April 1984 )..



Facts are hard to digest, If not why doing drama..

 

[Blackwater]

Have a look at you module with Older Russian Module, you will get your answer.. just Google

'Chinis' started what we have done in mid 80s ( Search for Soyuz T-11 on the 3 April 1984 )..



Facts are hard to digest, If not why doing drama..

If they sleep with pak they are bound to do drama

 

[RedDragon]

Finally we have some big helicopters to help us in construction or disasters. Although compare to the best helicopters, there are still a long way. But I still want to say Good work.

 

[Armand2REP]

History:
Zhi-8 (Z-8) is a medium transport helicopter developed from the French SA 321 Super Frelon, of which 13 examples were sold to the PLA Navy in 1977~78. At least one of these helicopters was disassembled for survey and reverse-engineering. Development of the Chinese copy of the SA 321, designated Z-8, began in 1976 at the Jingdezhen-based Changhe Aircraft Factory (now Changhe Aircraft Industry Group, CAIG).

China bought 13 Super Frelons for PLAN in 1977. Then they bought license production of another 28. 16 of which are radar equipped machines. There was no reverse-engineering until they tried to build this outdated monstrosity known as AC313. Turbomeca is currently re-engining the Z-8 (Super Frelon) with the Makila 2. AC313 prototype is powered by P&W PT6B-67A (1200hp), but it makes more sense to run Makila 2As with 2,100hp. The re-engined Z-8s have far more horses than AC313.

 

[charlyondfi]

Again a copy , can these chinis make something original....

Why? rip you and all other Indian friends off the fun keep laughing at them? once China does not do copy any more, what you are going to comfort yourself? At least AsianObserve did say "they make things done".

-- I am really tired of any more "India vs China". And you know what's the worst part? It turns out when one side boast of their achievement, the other side can't wait to discredit it with cheap & brainless logan like "copy" or "Purchase but not indegenous", just like there is NO effort NOR achievement/effort behind.

 

[Ray]

charly,

I am an India and I have not made fun of the reverse engineering!

 

[Bhadra]

Did pakistan give some input in that????

Yes, they provided moral support by invoking holy koran !!

 

[Ray]

Two important conclusions. First, the Chinese military aviation industry will have to rely primarily on indigenous development of advanced "single-use" military aviation technologies in the future. The Chinese government is pursuing a range of "indigenous innovation" and technology development programs, but mastering advanced technologies becomes more difficult and expensive as a country moves closer to the technology frontier. This leads to a second, related conclusion: China will likely rely more heavily on espionage to acquire those critical military aviation technologies it cannot acquire legitimately from foreign suppliers or develop on its own.

From A NDU / INSS report 'Buy, Build, or Steal: China's Quest for Advanced Military Aviation Technologies'

http://www.ndu.edu/press/lib/pdf/chi...pectives-4.pdf

 

[pmaitra]

Factually incorrect title.

Largest helicopter of Asia:

 

[Blackwater]

Why? rip you and all other Indian friends off the fun keep laughing at them? once China does not do copy any more, what you are going to comfort yourself? At least AsianObserve did say "they make things done".

-- I am really tired of any more "India vs China". And you know what's the worst part? It turns out when one side boast of their achievement, the other side can't wait to discredit it with cheap & brainless logan like "copy" or "Purchase but not indegenous", just like there is NO effort NOR achievement/effort behind.

Dont worry we have pak to comfort ourself:taunt1::taunt1::taunt1::taunt1::taunt1:

 

[Armand2REP]

China still can't make turbofan engines which is 40% value of a helicopter. The AC313 is a copy of the Super Frelon so it will never be exportable and nulls a claim of indigenous.

 

[ice berg]

China still can't make turbofan engines which is 40% value of a helicopter. The AC313 is a copy of the Super Frelon so it will never be exportable and nulls a claim of indigenous.

What about WS-10? Dont tell me you havnt been paying attention last year...:cool2:

 

[masterofsea]

China still can't make turbofan engines which is 40% value of a helicopter. The AC313 is a copy of the Super Frelon so it will never be exportable and nulls a claim of indigenous.

Look at this, dude.
China heavy-lift chopper receives certification | World news | The Guardian

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Finally we have some big helicopters to help us in construction or disasters. Although compare to the best helicopters, there are still a long way. But I still want to say Good work.

You guys have MI-17 which have better payload capability..

I don't know why celebrate abt this helo ?

 

[Armand2REP]

What about WS-10? Dont tell me you havnt been paying attention last year...:cool2:

"Without the ability to successfully produce a turbofan engine, China will remain dependent on imported engines," it said, noting the ongoing thrust, blade and oil leak problems with the only homegrown turbofan developed in China to date, the military WS-10A. "Until China's turbine engine industry becomes more mature, it is unlikely to develop a truly indigenous helicopter for global consumption," the USCC concluded.

 

[Zebra]

Factually incorrect title.

Largest helicopter of Asia:

Monini Museum Moscow

 

[H.A.]

Monini Museum Moscow

Do they still exist? this was built during the Soviet era

 

[Armand2REP]

Look at this, dude.
China heavy-lift chopper receives certification | World news | The Guardian

AVIC has said it also plans to apply for U.S. and European certification to allow foreign sales, but hasn't said when it will do so.

They haven't said when which is wise. Best not to bring a lawsuit. Since this is a civilian product it falls under WTO.

 

[W.G.Ewald]

Look at this, dude.
China heavy-lift chopper receives certification | World news | The Guardian

Quote from The Guardian article:

The AC313 is also the latest example of China's adaptation of foreign technology that has facilitated numerous breakthroughs in its aviation industry.