China in the Mahabharata

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  1. TTCUSM

    TTCUSM Regular Member

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    Vanakkam Everyone,

    A few weeks ago, I made an interesting discovery regarding the date of the Mahabharata war. Book 5, Section 74 mentions a list of kings who will be born at the beginning of the Kali Yuga:

    This passage from the Mahabharata mentions a Chinese emperor named Dhautamulaka. The Chinese kept very accurate records of their emperors and dynasties, so if we can figure out who Dhautamulaka is, we can determine when the Kali Yuga started.

    According to Srila Prabhupada's Vedabase, "dhauta" is Sanskrit for "clean", and "mulaka" is Sanskrit for "root". We need to find a Chinese emperor whose name means "clean root" and who caused destruction in his empire.

    I found a very useful Chinese dictionary online. According to this dictionary, the Chinese word for "clean" is "Jie".

    According to Wikipedia's list of Chinese emperors, there was a ruler named Jie who came at the end of the Xia dynasty. According to his Wiki page, King Jie lived from 1728 to 1675 BCE. It also says that he was a tyrant who engaged in drinking and womanizing. This fits his description in the Mahabharata perfectly.

    Therefore, we can safely conclude that the Kali Yuga began at around 1700 BCE.
     
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  3. civfanatic

    civfanatic Retired Moderator

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    That's quite the wild conjecture.
     
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    Razor CIDs from Tamilnadu Senior Member

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    What is the exact word used to describe China.... Is it Chin or something else, coz' AFAIK chin(Cheena) came into usage only after the Qin Dynasty (2nd century BCE or so)...
     
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  5. Kunal Biswas

    Kunal Biswas Member of the Year 2011 Moderator

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    There are little or no research on these Holy texts..
     
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    warriorextreme Senior Member Senior Member

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    cina is the exact sanskrit word used for china,kamboja for combodia
     
  7. mylegend

    mylegend Regular Member

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    Many different character can pronounce the same way in Chinese, in the case you mention, Jie refer to Emperor 桀, it is different from Jie as 洁(clean)。 It contain completely opposite meaning of Fierce, and ferocious. You may have to dig deeper...
     
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    TTCUSM Regular Member

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    According to the dictionary, the character 洁 is from simplified Chinese, which didn't exist until 1956. In traditional Chinese, the character is 潔.
     
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    mylegend Regular Member

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    I do know it... all i need to do is just to press crtl+shift+T to change to traditional... People who can read simplify have no problem reading traditional for the most part...

    All I wanted is the poster not to research on the wrong direction...
     
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    Kaliyuga started in 700BC and ended in 1700AD :namaste:
     

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