China has launched the 4th Beidou satillete successfully

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And Japan is also producing its own Quasi-Zenith Satellite System. I think World will prefer a Japanese technology over Chinese anyday. Only country like Pakistan and North Korea will prefer chinese.
 

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To understand whether or not a Global Navigation system will pick up with Indian people, we need to look at the requirement of populace, and how tech savvy they are, or in this case will be. At present scenario, imo, India could hardly be called a prime market for commercial GPS-like systems. But, with recent drop in price of mobile phones and other gadgets which actually enables people to use navigation systems, more people will buy it and more people will use the system. Also, it should be kept in mind that Indian people may start slow, but they can pick up the speed real fast. Just look at the stats of mobile phone users in recent users - and about 8 years back when I got my first one, it was a novelty! So, don't underestimate Indian market, it can pick up and can make any system sustain and survive commercially alone - if, and only if - it is useful in our life.
 

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Why are you forgetting Japan, Brazil, Russia ? And was China decisive market 5 years ago? =heheh

And how is China comparable to EU, USA? =heheh
You are 1/3 rd of them only.
1. China is the global biggest industry product consumer.
ha,guy,do you know how come EU' and USA have 3 time more GDP than CHina? 70% of EU's and USA's GDP are 30-dollars hair-cut,200-dollar broadway ticket,1 trillon yearly rent and wall stree magic........

if you look into real industry production& consumption, you can easily find that CHina in fact is thg biggest producer and consumer of almost all industry products,from raw resource such as iron ore to industry products such as autos. the only exception may be oil---CHina is the 6th biggest oil producer and 2nd biggest oil consumer.

2. even in 5 years, India can not reach where CHina is tody !

reason is very simple:
China in 2005 was more advanced and industrized than India today.

India can harldy grow as fast as China during 2005-2010.
 

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Ok folks, this thread risks of getting closed if you don't stop going off-topic and indulge in organ measuring contests. Topic is Beidou satellite system, so keep to the topic.
 

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China's main interest lies in aiding Military with own Navigation system. Let the consumer market aside, if Chinese military objectives are complete it'll be enough. BTW I heard PLAAF rejecting home fighters these days? Where are more details? How many earth stations? what will be handover time? What will be EIRP comparisons? China keeps everything hidden out of secrecy or embarrassment of being substandard? Consumer market will not trust & capturing it will be dream. let PRC aid military with own navigation system, thats enough...
 

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Beidou is same as the mid air interception and Chinese moonwalk claims, both which are reported fakes and this too until proven otherwise.
well, what a universal perfect excuse you above word is! With it, you can rebut anything you don't want to accept.

it can be generalized as a universal formula:


" X is same as the Y , both which are reported fakes and this too until proven otherwise"


here , "X" and "Y" can be anything you want to set.=xD
 

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1. China is the global biggest industry product consumer.
ha,guy,do you know how come EU' and USA have 3 time more GDP than CHina? 70% of EU's and USA's GDP are 30-dollars hair-cut,200-dollar broadway ticket,1 trillon yearly rent and wall stree magic........

if you look into real industry production& consumption, you can easily find that CHina in fact is thg biggest producer and consumer of almost all industry products,from raw resource such as iron ore to industry products such as autos. the only exception may be oil---CHina is the 6th biggest oil producer and 2nd biggest oil consumer.

2. even in 5 years, India can not reach where CHina is tody !

reason is very simple:
China in 2005 was more advanced and industrized than India today.

India can harldy grow as fast as China during 2005-2010.
Do you know 35 % of your GDP is of export ? And if recession occurs in USA and EU where are you going to export ? So all your consumption of raw material will come to a halt. And btw what will happen to your foreign exhange reserve which is mostly in US dollar and Euro.=xD


And do you understand PPP. If the satellite will be made in India, then its cost will be less. And this can be recovered from Indian market in 5 to 10 years.:)
 

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And Japan is also producing its own Quasi-Zenith Satellite System. I think World will prefer a Japanese technology over Chinese anyday. Only country like Pakistan and North Korea will prefer chinese.
as I know,Japanese Zenith is not a independent system. it is in fact a "patch " of GPS. it can rivise the accurency of GPS,but it has to be based on GPS.
 

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Do you know 35 % of your GDP is of export ? And if recession occurs in USA and EU where are you going to export ? So all your consumption of raw material will come to a halt. And btw what will happen to your foreign exhange reserve which is mostly in US dollar and Euro.=xD


And do you understand PPP. If the satellite will be made in India, then its cost will be less. And this can be recovered from Indian market in 5 to 10 years.:)
guy, in fact recession is just there in EU and USA, we decreased our export last year and increase our domestic consumption.

today ,case is that we are still Fine , but GM has bankrupted, and now PIGS are asking for a ass-saving.

without China's vigorous demand of raw resource , raw materail exporter such as Austrialia,Brazil and many Afircan states would ask for a ass-saving as PIGS do now....
 
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1. China is the global biggest industry product consumer.
ha,guy,do you know how come EU' and USA have 3 time more GDP than CHina? 70% of EU's and USA's GDP are 30-dollars hair-cut,200-dollar broadway ticket,1 trillon yearly rent and wall stree magic........

if you look into real industry production& consumption, you can easily find that CHina in fact is thg biggest producer and consumer of almost all industry products,from raw resource such as iron ore to industry products such as autos. the only exception may be oil---CHina is the 6th biggest oil producer and 2nd biggest oil consumer.

2. even in 5 years, India can not reach where CHina is tody !

reason is very simple:
China in 2005 was more advanced and industrized than India today.

India can harldy grow as fast as China during 2005-2010.

Brother I have said it earlier also and now i also repeat that you are still unaware of a decision making process in India.
It is completely different to China`s where orders are placed on a word by the goverment. Here it takes months to make any big decision and you know why? Because in these months that decision passes through many media, opposition and public and even a small objection cant be neglected. that means most of the decision taken by indian gov. reflects the opinion of a common man of the country. and this is what makes india more democratic and more stable. And if it takes some time then let it be. India is not competing with any nation of the world or neither wants to become a superpower in 5 or 10 years. it is just developing according to its pop. requirement my friend. just doing what it can do out of its best.
 

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as I know,Japanese Zenith is not a independent system. it is in fact a "patch " of GPS. it can rivise the accurency of GPS,but it has to be based on GPS.
And btw average price of a normal GPS device is 500 $. Then you think there will not be even 5 million buyer in India.
 

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guy, in fact recession is just there in EU and USA, we decreased our export last year and increase our domestic consumption.

today ,case is that we are still Fine , but GM has bankrupted, and now PIGS are asking for a ass-saving.
They are in recession because their per capita income is 46000 US $. What is the per capita income of China ?3500 $.
 

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And btw average price of a normal GPS device is 500 $. Then you think there will not be even 5 million buyer in India.
sorry to say satyam but gps watches are available at far more cheap price.
 

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without China's vigorous demand of raw resource , raw materail exporter such as Austrialia,Brazil and many Afircan states would ask for a ass-saving as PIGS do now....
China maintains trade surplus with all these countries. So infact your people will become unemployed if they don't purchase your goods.
 

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Brother I have said it earlier also and now i also repeat that you are still unaware of a decision making process in India.
It is completely different to China`s where orders are placed on a word by the goverment. Here it takes months to make any big decision and you know why? Because in these months that decision passes through many media, opposition and public and even a small objection cant be neglected. that means most of the decision taken by indian gov. reflects the opinion of a common man of the country. and this is what makes india more democratic and more stable. And if it takes some time then let it be. India is not competing with any nation of the world or neither wants to become a superpower in 5 or 10 years. it is just developing according to its pop. requirement my friend. just doing what it can do out of its best.
in fact, it is you that don't understand how "decision" is made in CHina.

If "decision" in CHina were made so loosely and easily as you said, CHina would be like N.Korea and couldn't stay where it is now at all.
You should study more the decision making process in China,because it assure China reach where it is now.
It aslo assure that it is Deng Xiaoping and Hu that was/is in the power, instead of corrupted or talentless guys.
 

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in fact, it is you that don't understand how "decision" is made in CHina.

If "decision" in CHina were made so loosely and easily as you said, CHina would be like N.Korea and couldn't stay where it is now at all.
You should study more the decision making process in China,because it assure China reach where it is now.
China is not North Korea because USA doesn't wants it to be. Everybody knows about China prior to 1986. It is only when you maintained trade surplus with USA and EU for 8 consecutive years you reached there.
 

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in fact, it is you that don't understand how "decision" is made in CHina.

If "decision" in CHina were made so loosely and easily as you said, CHina would be like N.Korea and couldn't stay where it is now at all.
You should study more the decision making process in China,because it assure China reach where it is now.
It aslo assure that it is Deng Xiaoping and Hu that was/is in the power, instead of corrupted or talentless guys.
here its not about how a decision is made but the matter is that how much time it takes. and in china i dont think it faces any barrier once it is announced. there motto is simple. To crush the voice which rises against the system and its components. Isn`t it?
 

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They are in recession because their per capita income is 46000 US $. What is the per capita income of China ?3500 $.
they are in recession because their production can not support their lazy life-style any more.

No pains ,no Gains. those lazy guys in PIGS want gains without pains, so they live on borrowed money. when other people don't lend money to them, they simplely bankrupts.

BTW, the so called 46K USD is just bull$hit.
the real life quality of East europen ,Taiwanese, S.koreans is in fact in the same league of coast Chinese. their 10K-20K USD nominal GDP can no tell you truth.
 

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they are in recession because their production can not support their lazy life-style any more.

No pains ,no Gains. those lazy guys in PIGS want gains without pains, so they live on borrowed money. when other people don't lend money to them, they simplely bankrupts.

BTW, the so called 46K USD is just bull$hit.
the real life quality of East europen ,Taiwanese, S.koreans is in fact in the same league of coast Chinese. their 10K-20K USD nominal GDP can no tell you truth.
Oh dear, you are greatly under estimating American and Europeans. Btw how many noble prize have these intelligent chinese, korean and Singaporean have won ?
 
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