China has dramatically increased the number of tanks of a new generation

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  1. Kunal Biswas

    Kunal Biswas Member of the Year 2011 Moderator

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    China has dramatically increased the number of tanks of a new generation


    Writes, " Journal of Mordovia " - the Chinese political and military leadership attaches great importance to the improvement of general purpose forces, particularly tanks. Tanks for the military in high places are still the main striking force of the Army. So now the army in its military industry takes just two types of tanks: a relatively cheap and simple Type 96 and more sophisticated and therefore more expensive Type 99.

    If the Type 96, in his early modifications in their characteristics match the Soviet tank T-72A, the latest version is closer to the Russian T-90. Common with the Russian and Soviet tanks of the Chinese is to use a cannon 125 mm and similar autoloader. Produced at the present time Type 96G is quite advanced fire control system and enhanced armor protection.

    It is difficult to say how many tanks annually goes to the Chinese army's weaponry, but it seems, is a few hundred pieces.And now there are probably about three thousand.

    Much less more sophisticated Type 99 tanks, which Chinese military vehicles are the first line. Although official sources have never published precise data about it, this tank, according to military experts, can be considered one of the best. It uses Russian (cannon, machine loading, guided missiles) and Western (engine, transmission, aiming devices, and surveillance) technology. The output of the machine, which, if not surpasses the world level, it is very close to it.

    Even more perfect would be the so-called "Type 99A2." It significantly improved fire control system and enhanced armor protection. On the imminent appearance of the tank wrote in 2007. However, data about any presence of its troops in yet.Apparently, designers are faced with technical problems that are being addressed.

    The total number of Type 99 tanks - about 600 pieces. These are the data leads to otvaga2004.mybb.ru Navigator on the availability of such tanks in the units of the People's Liberation Army:

    Army 27, 235 Mechanized Brigade, 2nd Battalion, 82 tank
    47 Army, 139 Mechanized Brigade, 2nd Battalion, 2: 82 of the tank
    38 Army, 6 Armoured Division, 24 Panzer Regiment 93 of the tank
    38 Army, 112 Mechanized Division: 155 tanks,
    39 army 3 Armoured Division, 9 Panzer Regiment 93 of the tank
    65 Army, 193 Motorised Division, Panzer Regiment 93 of the tank
    As we can see, the Chinese army is continuing to increase the number of modern armored vehicles, which can not disturb the neighboring states.
     
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    99A2 with better armor. What are the implications of that at the western(Tibetan) front with China? There are plains there.

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    Kunal Biswas Member of the Year 2011 Moderator

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    Their are some places tank can get in but its all over that side not over this side..

    Presently against India PLA deployed Type-96 mbts and IA using Update T-72 Ajaya MK-2..
     
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    FYI, T992As been spotted in exercises held by the Beijing Military Region.

    But no worries to our Indian friends, for, according to some members of this forum, the T992A is no match to the mighty Arjun tank, though the latter is still to be inducted on a serious scale after so many years.

    China's attention has shifted to the development of the next generation of tanks and armoured vehicles. Still no worry there, for the Arjun is so advanced that it is capable of handling any tanks that may or may not emerge in the next 30 years, to say the least.
     
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    30 years a bit too much, 10-15 would be reasonable :D
     
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    FYI, Arjun is too spotted in exercise in thar desert held by Indian Army & Air-force..

    But no worries to our Chinese friends, Its at western sector with massive 60 tons of Armour pushing with 1400hp engine, BEL-IMI FCS, Safe ammo compartment and LAHAT top attack ATGM, Of - course their is no match at-least not Mutations of Russian deign tanks..

    Now India attention has too shifted in Arjun MK-2 with NATO DM-63 types of Ammo and more sophisticated FCS, That may rule for another 80 years..
     
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    The Arjun is a world-renown white elephant。

    The Arjun Mk-2 will merely be an upgraded version of the under-powered Arjun MBT。 It is not a revolutionary design that China's next generation of tanks will be。

    And 1400hp to power 60 tons of iron and steel? A bit under powered wouldn't you say?

    The 99A2s, weighing under 50 tons, are equipped with 1500hp engines,and with all the fancy toys to boot。
     
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    I want to know how mamy Arjuns had been used in IA?
     
  10. utubekhiladi

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    tanks sturdiness are not measured only based upon the number of horse power it produces. there are many other factors and equations that needs to be considered. we are not going for formula 1 car race with these tanks to only talk about HP.

    Arjun's mbts 120mm rifled gun is more than enough to defeat any Armour in battle field. in recent test and exercises arjun out performed T-72's and T-90's with ease. Arjun has composite 'kanchan' Armour which is unique in its class. there are videos on youtube where Arjun was able to withstand 3 direct hits from T-72 from point blank range. after taking hits arjun was still operational with 95-98% capacity. plus arjun can operate even under NBC environments and threats.

    Arjun mbt can still reach top speed of 75 km/h which is more than enough for our terrain. drdo is already in process to develop tank engine that can produce 1600 to 1800 hp.

    I do not know much about Chinese tanks but i am confident that our arjun mbt is up-to the mark and can defeat any Armour. i think Arjun mk2 will bring its own unique features that the world has never seen before.
     
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    The 99A2 is over 60 tons as well.......
     
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    Horsepower still matters... Of course tank is not a car. But you got move them around, right?
    Anyway a tank battle between those two tanks are highly unlikely. The terrain just dont allow it.
     
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    utubekhiladi The Preacher Elite Member

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    correct. but arjun mbt can produce 1,400 hp with ease. arjuns engine is not under powered by any definition. the engine can easily propel tank upto 75kmph easily. just because a tank has got extra 100 hp does not make other tanks under powered.

    arjun's engine may be under powered according to some Chinese definition. i do no know :lol:
     
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    Never claimed that either. Anyway it is not about the max speed. It is about the duration. You cant sustain max speed over a long period of time.

    Anyway we dont really know about either tanks performance yet. None of them have ever seen any actual battle. You can guess as much as you want, but it is not until they go into battle that you see their true merits.
     
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    go-back and read your friends post.
     
  16. ice berg

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    I never claimed that. Happy now?
     

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