`China doesn't want carrier competition with India'

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  1. ani82v

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    `China doesn't want carrier competition with India'


    China does not want to "engage in a carrier competition with the US or its Asian neighbours like India", a state-run Chinese daily said Thursday.


    An article in the Op-Ed section of the Global Times said: "...China has neither the desire nor the strength to engage in a carrier competition with the US or its Asian neighbors like India."

    "China won't initiate a war, bully neighbors with which it has territorial disputes, and claim maritime hegemony. This is a cliched speculation held by those obsessed with the Cold War mentality, no matter how China explains its intentions," it said.

    The Chinese daily said the country's first aircraft carrier, originally the Ukrainian Varyag, set off for its 10th sea trial Monday and it has been followed closely by overseas observers.

    "Among external interpretations there are largely two tendencies: One sees the carrier as another symbol of China's muscle-stretching strategy and thus hypes the increasing `China threat', whereas the other disparages the Varyag as a `paper tiger' and a carrier `in name only'," it said.

    "It's hard to tell how long it will take before Western observers can rationally view China's carrier development as a natural, necessary step in the country's military build-up, just as with their own navies," the daily added.

    Calling the Varyag an important milestone in China's rise, the article stressed that "China doesn't want to stir up more concerns and worries among its neighbors. This is also why the nation keeps a low-profile and is cautious about publicizing every single move related to its carrier development".

    Stating that carrier development helps China to gain a strategic and political advantage in the increasingly complex regional dynamics, it said: "This is a pragmatic choice as the whole of Asia is entering the era of carrier development."

    The daily went on to say that China has been seeking more deterrent ability to secure its development environment.

    "Its defensive policy won't change no matter whether it enters the carrier era or not," it assured.

    India plans to operate at least two aircraft carriers at any given time. Its Indigenous Aircraft Carrier (IAC) is under construction at the public sector Cochin Shipyard in the southern Indian state of Kerala. India also plans to build another, larger IAC that will weigh about 65,000 tonnes and is likely to be called INS Vishal.
     
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  3. sukhish

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    china has lo of strength and even more desire.
     
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    China won't initiate a war - Ticked
    bully neighbors with which it has territorial disputes - Ticked
    claim maritime hegemony - Ticked

    Anything else left?
     
  5. ice berg

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    Despite all the rhetoric about China threat, they still havnt waged a war in the past 30 years.
    What a big bully they are. Maybe they should wage more wars and change their name to Global liberation army(US).:namaste:
     
  6. huaxia rox

    huaxia rox Senior Member Senior Member

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    the problem here is the coward cpc gov seems like they really worry some countries would like to be worried about prc.....if i were in their shoes (cpc gov) i would 1st worry if enough numbers of our warships etc can be built finally......u know how much they would like to spend on buying some useless new audi cars.....
     
  7. Oracle

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    China will get beaten hands down. Indian Navy is operating an Aircraft Carrier since 1987, 1 more to be delivered by Russia, 3 more indigenously built over the years. And they have 10 more years to go before commission their first one, bought to be made into a floating casino. :D
     
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    You are not really comparing your decade old carrier bought from UK to Ex-Variag, right?
    The one from Russia? Oh you mean the 3-billion dollars carrier that is yet to be delivered? After Russia milked your country again and again and again? :lol:

    No doubt IN still have an edge on PLAN on carriers. But the gap will be narrowed considerably a few decades from now.
    After all it is not really about the hardware, but the training.
    Neither navy have much training in modern carriers.
     
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    You think there is any comparison? I was talking about the experience of handling, logistics, and war fighting. Your PLAN has none.

    That was bought with tax payers money, giving out the reason that IN will decommission the old Carrier. Milked or not would be seen and proven on high seas. Most probably on the Yellow sea. But IN did not lie like PLAN did it, as to making a floating casino. Liars, thieves, are just some of the attributes directly linked with the Chinese.

    It's about the hardware too. Just do your homework and take a look at the junk you produce. JF-17 etc. And by modern AC you mean Nuclear powered ACs? Varyag is nuclear powered? IN have decades of experience, and even right now can beat the shit out of PLAN. If you do not agree, then go read some neutral 3rd party sites, other than BS propaganda that you feed on from your Majesty's servers.
     
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    All war is deception.
    -Sun Tzu
     
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    As a Chinese citizen you don't have to use your own country in the third person.

    :dude:

    1961

    EDIT: Huh! Ok. I got the point you made. :slow:
     
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  12. huaxia rox

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    experience is surely needed.....but for every new starter of every thing the experience comes naturelly with time.....for all my indian friends here dont forget u have no experience in making nuke subs (i know u used to rent some from russia but u rent a car doesnt mean u can make 1)....or making manned space craft (i know u have put 1 man in russian space craft as well but again that doesnt mean a shit).....but u still doing that or at least trying to do so........u dont worry about the exprience u need??
     
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    We're making one - Arihant. Indigenously. Your's sure is copied.
     
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    what is copied??

    nuke sub???

    space craft??
     
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    Everything. Your food habits even are a copy of NE Indians. :pound:
     
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    so whats the original???

    food habits even are a copy of NE Indians????in history there was no NE india at all.....till brits made 1......

    i only know u copy culture like using english language or creating some thing called bollywood......
     
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    Who said I am a chinese citizen?:rofl:
     
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    For a Country deeply rooted in stealing, copying, lying and propaganda, you won't understand.

    In history there was no China at all, until the dictatorial Majesty was formed by killing thousands. It repeated itself in 1989. Tiananmen Square protests of 1989.

    And you're conversing with me in Han in this forum? Bollywood is a film industry, the biggest in the world. It's not something, it's awesome.
     
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    Junk or not , they are still flying in the skies. You cant even make junks. What does that tell you?
    IN can beat PLAn with old harriers? Like I said. stick to your comic books. :thumb:
     
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    1 u cant say the original???then how is that a copy???

    2 a han dominated 中国 is out there for many years....qin dynasty can be seen as the beginning.....at that time there was no english so no the word china.....

    3 if bollywood is not the copy u r saying hollywood is the copy of bollywood right????

    4 han as a race cant be converted.,....unlike hindu......not religion.....
     
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