China Declares Australia a Military Threat Over U.S. Pact

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  1. cobra commando

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    China’s state-run media have declared Australia a threat to its national security, after Australia finalized a 25-year military pact with the United States. The United States currently has 1,200 troops from the Marine Corps and Air Force training with Australian troops for humanitarian and disaster relief. The defense agreement will increase the number of U.S. troops at Darwin in northern Australia to 2,500. The Chinese regime is none too pleased about the agreement, however. Li Jie, rear admiral of China’s People’s Liberation Army Navy, told Want China Times that Australia could pressure China’s supply lines in the Strait of Malacca in a conflict over the South China Sea. “Australia is therefore likely to become a threat to China’s national security,” it states. Global Times reported that if a war broke out between China and Vietnam or the Philippines, the United States could deploy submarines and aircraft from Australia. Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel announced the U.S.-Australia Force Posture Agreement on Tuesday alongside Australian minister of defense David Johnston and minister of foreign affairs Julie Bishop. Hagel said during a press conference, “This is a part of the world that represents five of America’s seven treaty obligation countries that we are committed to, which we’ve made very clear we’re committed to.” Johnston said the U.S. troops are helping train the Australian military. “The Marines, of course, are the world’s experts in amphibious combat and amphibious operations,” he said during the press conference. “And so, we’re watching as to how those operations are carried out.” The recent troop increase is part of a 2011 agreement between the United States and Australia.


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    Srinivas_K Senior Member Senior Member

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    First chinese are trying to grab the international as well as other country's sea lanes, Now they are picturing anyone who try to block those moves as a threat.
     
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    s002wjh Senior Member Senior Member

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    Lol epochtime. Do ppl really read news from that site
     
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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    How does Australia which does not have a very large standing military, a threat to China?

    You are right.

    Communist Chinese don't.

    They hate that site.
     
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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    This is a better news item

    Australia is worried that China could misconstrue that there is a Military Threat to China over the U.S. Pact with Australia.

     
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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    This is even more horrid for China.

    It appears that Australia does not trust China.

    Therefore Epoch Times may be right that China Declares Australia a Military Threat Over U.S. Pact.
     
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    The future war in that part of the globe will be like China+NoKo vs Japan+SoKo+Taiwan+Philippines+Singapore+Thailand+Australia+India+US.

    I bet Europe will just sick back, relax and enjoy the show with some toffee popcorn.
     
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    tramp Senior Member Senior Member

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    Is there one country other than N. Korea, Myanmar, Pakistan and Sri Lanka apart from other insignificant players that China does not consider as a threat?

     
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    China doesn't have a lot of friends to be honest. China isn't considered as a threat in Africa, but African countries don't have any reasonable military power to collaborate with China.
     
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    good to see chinese leadership can assess and plan to deal with foriegn threats

    Maybe one day india will take its security as serious
     
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    nope any sensible person with a brain will not read epochtime. unless you are falunkong :)
     
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    pmaitra Moderator Moderator

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    Here is a question to everyone:

    In the hypothetical scenario of an armed confrontation or skirmish between PRC and the neo-SEATO (US, Australia, Philippines, Viet Nam, Japan, South Korea) that is currently being created, what should India do? Should India jump in the bandwagon, or should India sit it out? Or should India do something else?
     
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    right lol epoch time "declare aussies a military threat to china" let me know if you found similar title on US network :rolleyes:
     
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    there wont be armed confrontation, both china and US is not stupid. also ASEAN themself are not align with each other. just not gonna happen till china think they are ready.
     
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    I agree with s002. America wont war against anyone who can defend themselves and the chinese mindset is not to do anything unless it earns them money

    In the off chance it happened India has no reason to get involved unless attacked themselves.The world has a wet dream that india will let them use her sons and daughters as cannon fodder to protect western hegemony against chinese industriousness. After seeing your ancestors used in ww1 and ww2 do you think it would be worth it now?
     
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    Thank you. That answers my question.


    I agree with you and @s002wjh, but my question was a hypothetical question.

    Anyway, let us see what others have to say.

    Should India join in the war against PRC, should India sit it out, or should India do something else?
     
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    For India, South Asia is the main concern, China has many areas of concern such as East Sea, SCS, Xingjiang, Tibet and then it is also moving into South Asia aggressively.

    India should work closely with the like minded countries in Asia and has to use this situation to the maximum extent and counter any Chinese moves. Chinese like to take down each country one by one at a time, they call it a zero sum game. This should not be the scenario.

    Armed conflict with China is not an option unless China provokes India. Chinese are trying to bully India by distributing maps which include Arunachal prdesh as Chinese territory to their army (this is an act of aggression which says we will invade Arunachal Pradesh in the near future). Chinese are unpredictable ,India should also respond to this bullying aptly by strengthening military relations with Japan and other Asian countries.

    India should not be in an illusion that China will go for diplomacy and peaceful resolution of conflicts but has to be well prepared just in case if there is any aggression.
     
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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    India has to countervail the Chinese hegemonic pursuits in all spheres of growth to stay relevant in the world.

    The alliance, if indeed it comes about, will be a informal one with no binding clause as is for military pacts as none would like to project itself in an aggressive avatar.

    It would be basically united to ensure that the interests of the Nations are not trampled by China and be more of a Force that appears as a 'Threat in Being'.
     
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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    You seem to have misplaced jingoism as a Chinese communist acolyte wherein, you flatter yourself by closing your eyes and perfunctorily rubbish what is not suited to your agenda without even bothering to check out the facts..

    fáng 人rén 之zhī 心xīn 不bù 可kě 無wú
    Transliteration (pinyin): Fáng rén zhī xīn bùkě wú.
    Traditional: 防人之心不可無
    Simplified: 防人之心不可无
    Careful with others is a must have.
    English equivalent: He that reckons without his host must reckon again.
    "This proverb is usually applied to such persons, who are apt to be partial in one Affair, flattering themselves with the Advantages they fansy to be on their side, and making no Allowances for the Disadvantages that will or may attend them."


    Here is something for you to do a 'wakey wakey'.

    Apparently Epoch Times is not that much of a joke as the Communist Chinese abroad think it is!

    Or is Peoples' Daily, a subsidiary of the Epoch Times?

    And the Chinese Communist Foreign Ministry spokesman Liu Weimin, a secret undercover agent of teh Falun Gong?
     
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