China concerned about Uyghur rebels operating in Pakistan

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  1. ajtr

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    China concerned about Uyghur rebels operating in Pakistan

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    During his recent visit to Islamabad, Chinese Foreign Minister Yang Jiechi asked the Pakistani government to take action against ethnic Uygur Islamic militants present in its lawless tribal areas.

    Pakistan and China have enjoyed friendly ties for six decades, but Beijing has recently expressed reservations over alleged links between Pakistani militants and the East Turkestan Islamic Movement (ETIM). Chinese authorities are said to be concerned about presence of the ETIM militants in Pakistani territory, where they say the fighters are being trained before they cross into Xinjiang to carry out militant attacks. But they did not discuss the issue publicly to ensure they don't embarrass Pakistan. The ETIM is also described as the Turkistani Islamic Party (TIP).

    In an April 5 statement, Chinese Ministry of Public Security published a list of six terrorists with their profiles, saying they were operating in South Asia, without naming Pakistan. According to the Chinese list, Nurmemet Memetmin, who was described as the "commander of the ETIM", was sentenced to 10 years in prison in a "South Asian country", but he escaped in 2006 and has been planning new attacks against China, including the late July attacks on civilians in Kashgar. After the Kashgar attacks, Chinese authorities had invited then Inter-Services Intelligence chief Lt Gen (r) Ahmed Shuja Pasha to Beijing in August and told him the militants had allegedly been trained in Pakistan's tribal areas.

    The ETIM network has weakened significantly in recent years after a crackdown by Pakistani authorities and killing of many of its top leaders in drone strikes
    In March, Xinjiang governor Nur Bekri had warned China was facing a network of militants entrenched in neighboring countries, Chinese media reported. Asked about the ETIM's Pakistan connection, Bekri said: "We have certainly discovered that East Turkistan [Islamic Movement] activists and terrorists in our neighboring states have a thousand and one links". In the past, China blamed Xinjiang's violence on ETIM, Hizb-ut-Tahrir (HT), and World Uyghur Congress leader Rebia Kadeer, but it never implicated other countries, especially not its all-weather friend Pakistan.

    Xinjiang, which borders Pakistan and Afghanistan, is home to ethnic Uygurs, a Turkic-speaking and largely Muslim people who make up about 40 percent of the region's population. Founded in 1997, the ETIM is fighting to liberate the Muslim-majority Xinjiang province (also called East Turkestan) from China. The Chinese government says such groups - linked with Al Qaeda -are responsible for unrest in the province.

    In the most serious incident of violence in decades, 197 people were killed and about 1,700 others injured on July 5, 2009, when riots between Uygur and Han ethnic groups erupted in the regional capital of Urumqi. Analysts say the riots shattered the authoritarian Communist Party's claims of harmony and unity among dozens of ethnic groups in China.

    Experts on militancy confirm the presence of militants of the ETIM in Pakistan's North and South Waziristan regions where several other foreign and international militant groups, such as the Al Qaeda, Islamic Jihad Union (IJU), the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan (IMU), the Islamic Army of Great Britain and Ittehad-e-Jihad Islami also operate.

    "There are dozens of Central Asian militants living in the tribal region," said a militant associated with Hafiz Gul Bahadur. "But it is very difficult for us to distinguish between the Uzbeks, Tajiks and Uyghurs because of similar facial features."

    After Al Qaeda and the IMU, the ETIM is the third strongest foreign militant outfit operating in Pakistan's tribal areas, says Aqeel Yousafzai, a Peshawar-based analyst. "The number of ETIM militants present in Pakistan has always been kept secret because it may hurt ties between China and Pakistan," Yousafzai wrote in his book 'Talibanisation'. According to his estimates, the number of Chinese militants in FATA was 50 to 300 during 2007-08.

    The influence of ETIM among jihadi groups is so strong that the movement's leader Abdul Shakoor Turkistani was rumored to be Osama bin Laden's successor after his death in May 2011, said Muhammad Amir Rana, director of Pak Institute of Peace Studies (PIPS), an Islamabad-based think tank.

    Rana said that the ETIM split into two factions last year. One concentrates on the separatist movement inside China, while a hard-line faction believes in a global jihad. Chinese militants are also present in northern Afghanistan, Uzbekistan and Tajikistan, he added.

    But the ETIM network has weakened significantly in recent years after a crackdown by Pakistani authorities and killing of many of its top leaders in drone strikes. Last year, Pakistan handed over to China a handful of Uyghur militants who were arrested by the security forces in the tribal areas.

    ETIM chief Hassan Mashom was killed by Pakistani security forces in 2003. His successor, Abdul Haq Turkistani, was killed in a drone attack in May 2010. Abdul Haq, who is also known as Memetiming Memeti, became a member of Al Qaeda's executive council in 2005, according to the United States Treasury Department, which declared him a global terrorist in 2009.

    "We believe the ETIM is not only an enemy of China but also an enemy of Pakistan," Interior Minister Rehman Malik told media when Haq was killed.

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    China Seeks Outside Help Against Uighur Separatists

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    China is calling for the international community to help fight what it calls a homegrown terrorist problem in mostly Muslim Xinjiang. The Chinese government accuses the region's Uighur minority population of seeking independence through violence, while the Uighurs blame Beijing for suppressing their culture and religion. China is already carrying-out counterterrorism-style drills with forces from neighboring countries in Xinjiang.
     
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    Pakistan-trained militants pose a threat to Xinjiang

    Published on Apr 16, 2012 by EuropeNews1



    Asia, April 16: It has come to light that Pakistan poses a threat to China's internal security. For years, armed fighters of East Turkestan Islamic Movement from China's Xinjiang province have been getting training and support from Pakistan. For the first time, China pointed fingers at Pakistan-trained Uighur (oy-gh-or) "militants" and published photos of six alleged terrorists for attacks on its soil. The six terrorists were identified as Nurmemet Memetmin, Abdulkyum Kurban, Paruh Tursun, Tursunjan Ebibla, Nurmemet Raxit and Mamat Imin Nurmamat.
     
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    I hope after the Chinese see this video, it will clear the cobweb in their head that deny that Pakistan is at the game in China and that even the Chinese Govt admits the same,
     
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    Why would pakistan train extremist & send to China , they are all weather friends if not brother & sister . Hard to understand & China itself admits PAK radical terrorists are supporting separatists in Xinjiang:thumb::taunt:
     
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    those tribal area is lawless land ,even Pakistan government can not have a effective control over that region,extremist radicals did a lot of bombing and killing in Pakistan,in China they pretty died out for some years,they used to be a nuiance but haven't been heard for some times now.we totally understand Pakistan's difficulity in dealing with those radicals.ever year we have joint anti- terrorismt exercises in China and Pakistan.
     
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    China Pakistan joint anti- terrorismt exercise

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    Did you forget to put this pic? :lol:


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    Pakistan is a trusted friend,all Chinese people strongly believe in this,we have brotherly relations for over 6 decades and crossed many generation of leaderships of both side,the level of friendship between our two countries has long gone beyond govenment level and into people's levels.

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    THE MOST PEACFUL INTERNATIONAL BORDER IN THE WORLD:BORDER BETWEEN CHINA AND PAKISTAN. ONE OF THE HOTTEST TOURIST SITE IN XIJIANG

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    Relation of Pakistan-china are not of interest or support anymore

    but they are NATURAL

    we are natural friends

    I support CHina officially against UYGHUR rebels

    they are terrorist no matter whatever they are.PLA should kill them at sight
     
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    Pakistan is natural friend.

    Islam is the unnatural friend.

    And Islam is more powerful!
     
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    absolutely shameless ! sending your Muslim brother back to chicoms knowing theyre gonna be tortured worse than in gitmo
     
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    Do you know we have over 10 miillion of Muslims and Xinjiang is just one Muslim province in China,the biggest Muslim group in China is Hui,ethnic Han Chinese with Islam religion.
     
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    U know meaning of dogla ( Unscientific name of Leopard , Tigeress hybrid) ? i think thats you & ur country

    U tell we stand by islam we support islam all kind of crap , are Uyghur not islamists? one more thing only u supporting china will not change ground reality were are these Uyghur getting trained?

    Why ur then supporting JUD,Al-queeda, Afghan Taliban etc?

    Ur number one DOGLA like ur pathetic begger country :thumb:
     
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    See we don't have any problem u killing any separatist its ur call , but don't be deaf & dumb then get into denial mode that those rebels are not getting trained & weapon supply across your border from so called step sister (PAK)

    Your own officials have acknowledged this for the first time to world media it is pakistan who is supporting Uyghur rebels , u want to deny it then go to hell :thumb:
     
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    Yes of course we know they are trained there in tribal regions in Pakistan,so are those who planted bombs and did killings in Pakistan,those extremists are our common enemy ,that's why we have joint anti terrorism exercise every year.those radicals are not trained by the government,they're anti government.and we Chinese and the government are fully aware of that,the common enemy can only make us closer.
     
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    Ok being close with Pak is fine its ur foreign policy which India has no business to comment , u know who is funding those radicals in tribal area?

    What is the role of ISI in that place? Why can't pak put an end once for all after all its their territory why don't they attack their position with full thrust using PAF & PAK Army

    Ur friends RAW is doing all this , im sure u will believe as well which i can't help :thumb:
     
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    :rolleyes:The good lady was right - you cant hold a krait against your chest,without being bitten by it.
     

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