China claims to have developed nuke sub with speed of 100 knots

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  1. arnabmit

    arnabmit Homo Communis Indus Senior Member

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    China claims to have developed revolutionary Nuclear submarine with high speed of 100 knots | idrw.org

    SOURCE: CHINA DAILY MAIL

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    Photo of China’s new generation of nuclear submarine circulated on the Internet

    In its comprehensive report, huanqiu.com says: “Reference News quotes Taiwan’s Central News Agency as reporting that Tan Zuojun, Vice Governor of Liaoning Province, has recently revealed that China has successfully completed the development of its fourth-generation nuclear submarine. It has given rise to much speculation in military circles. Some experts are of the opinion that the news is credible.

    “Hong Kong’s Wen Hui Po quotes netizens analysis on that day as saying that the fourth-generation nuclear submarine Tan Zuojun mentioned must be Type 095 attack and Type 096 strategic nuclear submarines. However, Hong Kong military analyst Liang Guoliang said that by inference, China’s fourth-generation nuclear submarine must be Types 097 and 098.

    “Liang Guoliang pointed out to the reporter that China has been developing its fourth-generation nuclear submarines since 2000. It is said that this kind of submarine is of a revolutionary design that adopts unprecedented method of propelling by magnetic liquid without screw propeller.

    “Besides, the submarine is even free of tail and horizontal rudders and possibly has not even a surrounding shell. Therefore, it generates no mechanical or cruise noise at all and will be a real ‘ocean black hole.’

    “In theory, the submarine’s speed may reach 100 knots (according to the original text in huanqiu.com), quicker than all ordinary high-speed torpedoes.

    “However, Liang said: the ‘successful development’ does not necessarily mean ‘successful manufacture.’ If the design has been completed and a submarine half or one thirds of the size of prototype has been made and successfully passed various tests, the development can be regarded as successful. However, the construction of one is another matter. According to Liang’s estimate, it takes at lease 4 to 6 or even 10 years to successfully launch and complete all relevant equipment for the submarine.”

    Source: huanqiu.com “Hong Kong media guesses China has developed a revolutionary submarine with 100 knots high speed” (translated from Chinese by Chan Kai Yee)
     
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  3. roma

    roma NRI in Europe Senior Member

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    understandably china is making serious progress
     
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    SajeevJino Long walk Elite Member

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    The same BS like Iranian Qaher
     
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    sesha_maruthi27 Senior Member Senior Member

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    What is India doing without planning anything for the indigenous development....?

    Our government has been busy looting the tax payer's money for the past 10 years rather than planning the future of the country......

    This is a very shameful and disastrous situation for India....

    In the fall of 21st century the indigenous capability of manufacturing Defence equipments related to Army, Navy and Air force are very essential to have a good and strong Defence forces for the country and also economically too as the buying of defence equipments from other countries are becoming very expensive and it is evident in the case of INS Vikramaditya and also the PAK-FA.

    Let us see what happens in the near future as china is getting ready to attack India.....

    In the present situation, it seems that India is sinking badly because of large and open corruption and is degrading itself in a fast pace.

    All the things are now in the hands of the public to elect a STRONG LEADER to take India forward rather than electing a family which has been misleading and looting the people of India for over SIX DECADES.......
     
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    Tolaha Senior Member Senior Member

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    100 knots is like close to 200 kmph? A submarine? Isnt that too high even on the gossip scale? :dude:
     
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    drkrn Senior Member Senior Member

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    100 knots....how come they reduce water resistance soo much...
    even to achieve 180 kmph in sky requires a lot of struggle.they did it under water??

    unreliable info
     
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    I will not be surprised if Chinese claim the same submarine can propel out of the water in such a speed and start flying like an aeroplane... Only Chinese can make such claims just like inflating their economy by $1 trillion...
     
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    Do not write it off. The Russian torpedo with 200kts speed uses cavitation to create a layer of bubbles around it. That reduces the hydrodynamic resistance to the level of air resistance. The torpedo runs within this air bubble. The control is by varying the cavitation. It is possible that either chinese are calling this tech bought from Russia as their own and claiming it to be fit for Submarine operations. It is possible that they have developed a similar torpedo and not an actual Sub.
    BTW-A Torpedo is a submarine too.
     
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    This doesn't seem to be fake news.

    For one torpedoes with speeds over 200 knots exist which use the principle of Supercavitation. The same principle can be used on larger submarines too, the only difference being it is going to be an expensive sub.

    All the big players are doing some levels of research in this program.

    Electric Boat has the Underwater Express program for transfer of men and supplies. Obviously a SSN/SSBN will also be part of such a program.

    The Need for Speed: All Aboard the Underwater Express!
     
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    for the weight of 2.7 tons that torpedo uses 1500 kg peroxide+500 kg kerosene
    so a 6 ton submarine uses 3.2 tons peroxide+1.2 tons kerosene (or some other compound ) making this a live bomb on timer
     
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    Well, you have to read every words it said.

    First "In theory"
    Second "‘successful development’ does not necessarily mean ‘successful manufacture.’".
    So, basically, he is talking about kind of "test machine"!
     
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    Armand2REP CHINI EXPERT Veteran Member

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    So they make a submarine with 10km range.... sounds about right . :lol:
     
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    it's quite funny to discuss such a absurd , unreliable ,and none first hand news for some these also well-known unreliable source like Quanqiu.com, Hongkong and Taiwan media...LOL...even the 'guess' was used in the so called news report...

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    but the following claim is something true and well reported before:
    in 2007, the report on the project of propelling by magnetic liquid without screw propeller is quite hot on some exhibition of that year.

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    a 4500 tons class submarine model (without screw propeller): 85m long, speed range: 20-30 knots.

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    some page from the brochure shows more details.

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    arnabmit Homo Communis Indus Senior Member

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    Magnetohydrodynamic drive - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
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    The magnetic liquid used to propel a sub would make the sub red hot on magnetic anomaly detectors... The trend in submarine tech has been to reduce as much as possible a subs magnetic signature. No doubt none of the major advanced submarine producing countries have seriously toyed with that technology.
     
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    sorry to say this bro,but the picture above ,a hand with an instrument ,the instrument resembles a dildo...:rofl::rofl:

    sorry if i hurt any persons feelings
     
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    A submarine with supercavitation will effectively be blind. No Sonar input/output would be possible with supercavitation. Also, everyone would be able to hear it coming 2000 Knots away.
     
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    Nothing said about noise either?
     
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    t_co Senior Member Senior Member

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    It's the right-hand-rule of electromagnetic physics:

    Right-hand Rules
     
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    The speed seems to be exaggerated.

    It is unlikely that such a technology is available now. Maybe they were aiming for it during development, but to see it in real would be believing. Imagine the moment that sub would have if it has to try and stop or change directions. Such a massive submarine will be like an ICBM if it rams something.
     

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