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Does China really want to get into a race with USA??
30 ICBM'S vs 7,000 ICBM'S?
 
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where did you get the 7000, even in the peak of Cold War ,there is no 7000. and where did you get the 30 then?
Almost all US ICBM'S are MIRV'D with 10 warheads land and SUB based
Using the very low number of 700 ICBM's x10 WARHEADS =7,000 ICBM warheads
a very low number used could be well over 25,000

During the cold war it is estimated US and USSR had 22,000+ ICBM's or missiles
pointed at each other (including land based in Europe)
 
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current active nuclear warhead figure for the USA is made up of:

1600 in ICBMs
2880 in SLBM in submarines
1660 in strategic bombers (B52, B-2)
1120 in dispersed non-strategic forces on tomahawk cruise missiles and for use with NATO and U.S. aircraft

Obviously the total number of warheads at the peak of the Cold War was much higher. (some Estimates 30,000
for US alone)

500 is also the figure for active Minuteman-III silos given by Wikipedia.
 
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current active nuclear warhead figure for the USA is made up of:

1600 in ICBMs
2880 in SLBM in submarines
1660 in strategic bombers (B52, B-2)
1120 in dispersed non-strategic forces on tomahawk cruise missiles and for use with NATO and U.S. aircraft

Obviously the total number of warheads at the peak of the Cold War was much higher. (some Estimates 30,000
for US alone)

500 is also the figure for active Minuteman-III silos given by Wikipedia.
so in indian math 1600=7000?
 
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so in indian math 1600=7000?
learn to add I cannot teach you math in the forum or to read

current active nuclear warhead figure for the USA is made up of:

1600 in ICBMs
2880 in SLBM in submarines
1660 in strategic bombers (B52, B-2)
1120 in dispersed non-strategic forces on tomahawk cruise missiles and for use with NATO and U.S. aircraft
 

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Does China really want to get into a race with USA??
30 ICBM'S vs 7,000 ICBM'S?
According to the Chinese Military Report 2012 issued by DOD last year, China currently is operating 75 ICBMs.

China's Missile Force
System Missiles Launchers Estimated Range
ICBM 50-75 50-75 5,500+ km
IRBM 5-20 5-20 3,000-5,500 km
MRBM 75-100 75-100 1,000-3,000 km
SRBM 1,000-1,200 200-250 < 1,000 km
GLCM 200-500 40-55 1,500+ km
http://www.defense.gov/pubs/pdfs/2012_CMPR_Final.pdf
On page P36
The source of this info is from DOD which is quite official.
 
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Does China really want to get into a race with USA??
30 ICBM'S vs 7,000 ICBM'S?
"As of 2010, the version LGM-30G Minuteman III is the only land-based ICBM in service in the United States."
"A total of 450 LGM-30G missiles are emplaced at F.E. Warren Air Force Base, Wyoming (90th Missile Wing), Minot Air Force Base, North Dakota (91st Missile Wing), and Malmstrom Air Force Base, Montana (341st Missile Wing). All Minuteman I and II have been retired. "
LGM-30 Minuteman - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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"As of 2010, the version LGM-30G Minuteman III is the only land-based ICBM in service in the United States."
"A total of 450 LGM-30G missiles are emplaced at F.E. Warren Air Force Base, Wyoming (90th Missile Wing), Minot Air Force Base, North Dakota (91st Missile Wing), and Malmstrom Air Force Base, Montana (341st Missile Wing). All Minuteman I and II have been retired. "
LGM-30 Minuteman - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
What about the Peacekeepers?
 
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LGM-118A [MX] Peacekeeper ICBM United States Nuclear Forces

During a summit meeting with President Putin in November 2001, President Bush announced that the United States would reduce its "operationally deployed" strategic nuclear warheads to a level between 1,700 and 2,200 warheads during the next decade. The United States and Russia signed the Strategic Offensive Reductions Treaty, known as the Treaty of Moscow, on 24 May 2002. Under this Treaty the parties will to reduce their strategic offensive nuclear weapons to between 1,700 and 2,200 warheads by the end of 2012. Under the Treaty of Moscow the Bush Administration has stated that it would eliminate the 50 Peacekeeper missiles when reducing US forces to around 3,800 warheads.
 
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With New weapons like Global strike weapon US does not need a large ICBM arsenal.
 
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"Under the START II treaty, which(Peacekeeper) never entered into force, the missiles were to be removed from the U.S. nuclear arsenal in 2005, leaving the LGM-30 Minuteman as the only type of land-based ICBM in the U.S. arsenal."
LGM-118 Peacekeeper - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Peacekeepers are still deactivated but silos are still there take this anyway you like.
Either way does China think it can match US numbers in ICBM's??
 
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I don't think there is any chance for China to counter with US in the number of ICBM's; however, the gap was not big as you described as "30:7000". The ratio should be 75/450 in land-based ICBMs.
 
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I don't think there is any chance for China to counter with US in the number of ICBM's; however, the gap was not big as you described as "30:7000". The ratio should be 75/450 in land-based ICBMs.
All US ICBM'S are MIRV'd wiith 10-12 warheads including SLBM's
what is the warhead comparision between US and China??
US has fissile material to ramp up ICBM's in a hurry China does not.
Also 75 Chinese ICBM's is debateable and even if all MIRV'd with 3 warheads=225 warheads
the real number told by a Colonel who has studied China was 30?
One US OHIO sub has more destrictive power than the whole Chinese arsenal:


SSBN-734 and subsequent hulls upon construction, SSBN-730 to SSBN-733 since refueling
24 × Trident II D5 SLBM with up to 12 MIRVed W76 or W88 (300–475 ktTNT) nuclear warheads each, range 6,500 nmi (12,000 km; 7,500 mi)
 
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I doubt if the USA is going to get into an ICBM race with China. Submarine launched missiles, and stealth bombers should allow for a sufficent response. The USA lived with the USSR finger on the button for 70 years, we can live with China. There is one additonal factor, no one really knows how effective americans anti ICBM defense really are. Theres no question even an failed strike against the USA is going to result in a massive response.
 

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having capability to reach US is one thing, but able to destroy is another including having heart to take on massive counter strike if BMD stop it or not.
 

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All US ICBM'S are MIRV'd wiith 10-12 warheads including SLBM's
what is the warhead comparision between US and China??
US has fissile material to ramp up ICBM's in a hurry China does not.
Also 75 Chinese ICBM's is debateable and even if all MIRV'd with 3 warheads=225 warheads
the real number told by a Colonel who has studied China was 30?
One US OHIO sub has more destrictive power than the whole Chinese arsenal:


SSBN-734 and subsequent hulls upon construction, SSBN-730 to SSBN-733 since refueling
24 × Trident II D5 SLBM with up to 12 MIRVed W76 or W88 (300–475 ktTNT) nuclear warheads each, range 6,500 nmi (12,000 km; 7,500 mi)
All 450 LGM-30G Minuteman III are single warhead. "A Nuclear warhead W62, W78, or (2006–) W87"
LGM-30 Minuteman - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 

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