China: Biggest Loser In India's 'Modislide' Election

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  1. W.G.Ewald

    W.G.Ewald Defence Professionals/ DFI member of 2 Defence Professionals

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    China: Biggest Loser In India's 'Modislide' Election - Forbes
     
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    These are truism that cannot be ignored and should be watched.
     
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    Why India Will Soon Outpace China

    Why India Will Soon Outpace China - Forbes
     
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    India will outpace China because Chinese economy is now 4-5x bigger than India's.

    Impossibru for them to keep such high growth

    A 10% growth for China is the same as about 45% growth for India.
    A 10% growth for India is about 2% growth for China.

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    Except for one thing.......Gordon Chang has been wrong for one and a half decade about China. I don't think you can even consider this guy as an authoritative figure on China matters.
     
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    Well, maybe so.

    But he is not 100% wrong.

    Even Mao, who was 100% right while he lived, suddenly became 70% right and 30% wrong after his death!!!!!!

    Perceptions!

    And Forbes?

    Western propaganda, right?

    Or maybe 30% wrong and 70% right.

    Who knows.

    Terima kasih. or for you, 谢谢

    adakah anda cina
     
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    bukan cina...
     
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    He has been writing for Forbes for a long time and his China articles are almost always 100% China negative. I subscribe to Forbes. I just think that you might want to quote someone else who are much more credible. He has been wrong a lot of times, especially on China and has been criticized even by his own magazine colleagues.

    Yes, China might be the biggest loser with Modi wining the election, but using Gordon Chang's article do not carry much weight. Infact, it might propel it the opposite way since he(Gordon) has been proven wrong many times.

    He predicted China will collapse in 2001. In 2006, he says he was off but the collapse is imminent, it will be 2011. In 2011, he says China will collapse in 2012, saying he was only off by one year. The China collapse never came. Yes, China will collapse one day, just like any country in the world, and just like everyone will die eventually. Say, if China do collapses 50 years from now, Gordon Chang will tell you "I told you so". You call this guy a China expert?

    I am not saying your argument is wrong, bud. I am saying you choose the wrong guy to backup your argument.
     
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    it is quite brave to buy Mr. Gordon Chang' words.
     
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    I am aware that Chang is not always right.

    But he is not always wrong either.

    Just like Mao.

    NO article on Economics can ever be totally right.

    There are too many variables and too many models.

    Forecast on China can never be accurate since all the variables cannot be ascertained first hand and much of the indices on which to base assertions are on figures that are again questionable.

    From WSJ

    From South China Morning Post on 2014/05/17

     
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    Gordon Chang certainly appeals to his target audience. Otherwise his books wouldn't have sold, or the funding for his "research" may have stopped.

    Often enough one is prone to info that only reinforces his own preconception while screening out info that doesn't.
     
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    I am aware that Chang is quite a few time off his top.

    But I would still read him since it is, what it is, just another view.

    I rarely take the economists at their face value since each thinks he is cats whiskers, only till proved wrong.

    The same case as the 'battle' between Bhagwati and the Nobel Laureate Amartya Sen. They are both right and also horribly wrong too because each is batting their favourite line of economics.
     
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    Mr. Chang is like Fareed Zakaria.

    They spout the script given to them by the USG.

    It is safer to assume the opposite of what is being stated in articles authored by such people.
     
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