China behind scrapped GMR deal to extend footprint in Maldives and IOR

[Virendra]

Re: China behind scrapped GMR deal to extend footprint in Maldives and

No more personal attacks or this thread will be closed for good.
Continue only if you can discuss on topic and keep you language civil.

 

[no smoking]

Re: China behind scrapped GMR deal to extend footprint in Maldives and

Today's date: 19 December 2012.
Japan also came to China in late 30s and 40s, and China just dropped her pants and bent over. World has changed a lot since then

Looks like you know today is 19/12/2012, not late 30s and 40s. Bent over? Kid, you should learn somthing from real history. At least have a check who surrendered after 8 years bloody war. You can argue that China didn't win the war by itself. But it is no doubt that China didn't bend over.

US can send any country in the world back to the stone age in 7 days in a conventional war. You can keep smoking the good stuff.

Yes, US can send any country in the world back to the stone age in 7 days. But meanwhile China can make sure the major part of US becomes unsuitable for people to live.

By the way, we are talking about india here. Does india have that power too? An indian brags US power to a Chinese, well done!

 

[K Factor]

Re: China behind scrapped GMR deal to extend footprint in Maldives and

You are the one who need to keep smoking the good stuff. How long did it take to bring down Saddam and Taliban? 7 days? In your wet dream. Fanboy

Bringing down a regime needs a land invasion and a drawn out occupation.
If there is no land invasion, and if required, the US can park 5 carriers just outside the reach of the country in question and bomb the country back to the stone age - that is, blow up all the infrastructure - power plants, dams, airports, etc which take decades to build in just 5-7 days. Do you know, only 20-25% of total US military capabilities were uses in Iraq, this is because only that much was enough? They can bring much more to the party than they did there, if required.....
Learn to understand the difference.

 

[K Factor]

Re: China behind scrapped GMR deal to extend footprint in Maldives and

Looks like you know today is 19/12/2012, not late 30s and 40s. Bent over? Kid, you should learn somthing from real history. At least have a check who surrendered after 8 years bloody war. You can argue that China didn't win the war by itself. But it is no doubt that China didn't bend over.

Wake up an smell the coffee. While the Japanese lost the war, that was because of the US and not China, final nail being the nukes on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
If it hadn't been for the US, you all would be speaking Japanese and doing karate instead of kung fu.

Yes, US can send any country in the world back to the stone age in 7 days. But meanwhile China can make sure the major part of US becomes unsuitable for people to live.

By the way, we are talking about india here. Does india have that power too? An indian brags US power to a Chinese, well done!

China is not in a position to start nuclear war with America. 200-300 warheads on suspect delivery platforms v/s 8000+ warheads is just not feasible.
And, please try to understand the conversation. I am not bragging about US power to you, just making to familiar with reality. US does not see India as a threat, and even China (militarily). Its the geo-politics and economics that makes US see China as a threat, not India.

 

[SpArK]

Re: China behind scrapped GMR deal to extend footprint in Maldives and

Happened for good.

My city of Trivandrum is infested with Maldivians who in name of medical tourism are coming here and is having a chain of currency rackets and all other illegal activities.

These bastards are drowning to sea at an alarming rate and they treat Indians who work in Maldives brutally as if they are some superior a-holes.

Maldives can think China will come and make love with them at sea . They dont have anything to offer apart from radically minded people running tourist resorts and fishes from sea to China, which chinese wont be liking much.

They are too dependent on India and yet they think they can play the game like Lanka who places perfect balancing act between India and China.

I wonder where Maldivians will end up if India act the same way like they do.

These guys are even dependent on us in food. Vegetable, grains , fruits are all exported from Kerala, as it is the nearest place.

GMR is not the only party on that airport project 23% stake belonged to some Malaysian company. Maldives need to be whipped, and the whip mark should be made visible to all those who play the China card.

 

[amoy]

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Ah my friends let's get back to Maldives

An interesting read - More Who lost Maldives - to Uncle Sam? - Indian Punchline

Would you believe, in his last visit in September, Blake even held a press conference and a round table with the "civil society" in Maldives, affirming the US' resolve to be a "stakeholder" in peace and stability of Maldives, no matter the domestic politics there.

Interestingly, Blake's September visit coincided with the fateful move by the "international community" to ease the pressure on the Maldivian authorities to return to the democratic path and the rule of law. It stands to reason that Washington and London are acting in tandem.

Unsurprisingly, UN secretary general Ban Ki Moon also lost no time endorsing the CONI report. One has to be a total duffer not to see that the US was pulling the strings. After having struck a deal with the current regime in Male, the US needs to legitimise the regime so that the deal enjoys legitimacy. The Faustian deal opens the path for the US Navy to access Gan.

Besides, will Delhi want to stage a coup that defies American strategic interests? No way. Alas, how can India be a serious player in its region if it can't read the tea leaves correctly in this tiny island of 3 lakh people? There has been a massive intelligence failure and all the shrieks from the hot tin roof that the "Chinese are coming", "Al-Qaeda is coming" is not going to obfuscate that plain truth. Why do such disasters happen?

The answer is simple. As the ancient sage Manu advised : Stick to your varna. The spook is a spook and should behave like one. Also, the media should know its primary duty is to disseminate reliable information — and certainly not to play footsie to paymasters in the intelligence.

And, last, but not the least, there needs to be an awareness that diplomacy is also a profession which requires skills and expertise and it is an idiotic assumption that any one who knows English is au fait with foreign affairs and diplomacy.

The heart of the matter is that myths were propagated to cover up the intelligence failure; and the ubiquitous al-Qaeda factor was deliberately brought in. The result is plain to see. Forever will India build hospitals and primary health centres in Maldives — and forever will Chinese tourists flock to that heavenly spot on earth — while Uncle Sam rules the roost.

 

[no smoking]

Re: China behind scrapped GMR deal to extend footprint in Maldives and

Wake up an smell the coffee. While the Japanese lost the war, that was because of the US and not China, final nail being the nukes on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
If it hadn't been for the US, you all would be speaking Japanese and doing karate instead of kung fu.

Yes, you can say US won the war for us. But the point is we fought Japanese ALONE for 5 YEARS before USA came in and we didn't bend over.

China is not in a position to start nuclear war with America. 200-300 warheads on suspect delivery platforms v/s 8000+ warheads is just not feasible.

That is true! But, when USA tries to sent China back to stone age, do you think China has other option?

US does not see India as a threat, and even China (militarily). Its the geo-politics and economics that makes US see China as a threat, not India.

No, US does see India as a threat even though it doesn't claim publicly! Actually, US see anyone with potential to challenge her regional dominance as a threat: China, india, brazil, etc.