China banking on Pakistan for India intel?

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  1. bhramos

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    Is there a tie-up between Chinese and Pakistani agencies to share intelligence on India?

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    There is mounting evidence within the Indian intelligence agencies that suggests that China's ministry of state security (MSS) has outsourced collection of vital intelligence including aspects of Tibetan activity in India from Pakistan's ISI as the latter had better penetration in the sub-continent.

    Government sources said intelligence inputs indicated that there was institutionalised tie-up between the two agencies and some five structured meetings at high official level had taken place in the past two years with India figuring in the dialogue. This information has been shared with top officials in the UPA government.
    According to available inputs, ISI will also share intelligence on India with their Chinese counterparts as it has known access in restive regions of India including in the north eastern states.

    Beijing's key interest is in the Dalai Lama set-up and is closely watching the Indian involvement in the Tibetan government-in-exile in Dharamsala. With Bangladesh not allowing NE insurgent groups to target India from its territory and Myanmar making similar noises, insurgents are getting monetary and logistics support from Yunan province in south China.

    However, it is the flip-side of this tie-up that is worrying India. A section of the Indian intelligence community feels that ISI could exacerbate tensions with China by exaggerating New Delhi's role in the Tibetan movement. Even though India has little to do with the Tibetan set-up, the perception is that it is the ISI, which has made the MSS suspicious of India's involvement.

    After the 2008 Lhasa riots, Beijing has been very sensitive about the Tibet issue. Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao last week extracted a commitment from Nepal on not allowing any Tibetan activity in the erstwhile kingdom.

    China banking on Pakistan for India intel? - Hindustan Times
     
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  3. hit&run

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    This is what higher than mountain and deeper than rectum friends are supose to do.
     
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  4. sayareakd

    sayareakd Moderator Moderator

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    China alone cannot handle us they need full support from their gay friend.
     
  5. Ray

    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    It is good that China has learnt the advantage of outsourcing!
     
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  6. Rage

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    Some amount of intelligence sharing is inevitable. But, it'd be foolish to discount China's own intelligence presence in our country. History tells us that when two countries are not engaging militarily, they are engaging in multiple third-dimensions: including wars over diplomacy, influence on institutions, economic activity, ideas, cataract movements and acts of subversion.

    We Indians have a way of discounting others' abilities, especially when they seem superficially superior.

    I'd be careful of attributing anything 'ingenious' to this article. 'Institutionalized tie-ups' between the two agencies:- particularly in the North-east, have been a fact of life since at least the 1960's, when the ISI helped facilitate Chinese Intelligence contacts with Naga and Mizo hostiles post the 1962-disruption of their traffic to the Chittagong Hill tract by the Ne Win Government of Myanmar, which led to Yunnan- replacing the Chittagong Hill tract as their main training-grounds.

    As with regards to the Tibetan exile setup, I have no doubt that the Chinese have penetrated the arrangement thoroughly. They need hold no Pakistani-cards for that.

    What China can and will use Pakistan for, is hawala channels throughout the country. That's where Pakistan is primordially, superior.
     
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    i thought its other way round. well isi presence in India is strong but not that much.
     
  8. Blackwater

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    we all know ,So why you think china ne dosti payi with begger
     

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