China backing out on power project

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  1. Blackwater

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    ISLAMABAD: The government said on Tuesday that Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif’s signature mega power project – 6,600MW coal-based Gadani Power Park Project – for ending loadshedding had been put on the back burner because of changing priorities of the Chinese government.:taunt::taunt::taunt:

    In a testimony before the National Assembly’s standing committee on planning and development, top officers of the power ministry and Pakistan Power Park Management Company (PPMC), which has been set up to specifically undertake and facilitate the Gadani mega project, said a decision had also “been taken that all work relating to PPMC may be handed over to the Private Power and Infrastructure Board for rationalisation of the project”.

    Also read: Gadani power project: challenges

    The parliamentary panel was informed that the PPMC was set up in 2013 for construction of infrastructure like port facilities, coal handling, roads, jetty, etc, to enable setting up of 10 power projects of 660MW each and a transmission line for evacuation of its power. The cost of the entire project was estimated at $6-8 billion.

    The committee was told that memorandums of understanding were also signed with China under China-Pakistan Economic Corridor Project for 10 Gadani Power Projects, but later Beijing scaled down its priority over financial and technical apprehensions. For example, the Chinese had concerns over payment issues against electricity sales after the completion of projects and suggested AC, instead of DC, circuit transmission line.

    The parliamentary panel was informed Pakistan had even agreed to set up a revolving fund to facilitate direct payments to power producers against electricity sales and was ready to set up AC circuit transmission line, but China reduced the number of projects to four from 10.

    As a consequence, Pakistan had to redesign the entire project because transmission line and port facilities also needed to be in consonance with 2,600MW, instead of 6,600MW, but the Chinese side reduced Gwadar Power Park on its priority order.

    The committee was also told that a subsequent meeting of China-Pakistan Economic Corridor Project expert group decided to downgrade the 660x4 coal power projects at Gwadar from ‘Early Harvest Projects’ to ‘Actively Promoted List’. The meeting was informed that 14 projects on the early harvest project list were now being pursued for completion by 2018, while the remaining seven projects, including Gadani, would be considered for priority implementation depending on progress achieved on the ground.

    The committee wanted to know how the Gadani projects were publicised on national media and why the prime minister decided to inaugurate and lay their foundation stone before completion of studies.

    An official of the water and power ministry said the ministry could not respond on behalf of the prime minister or the government because the project was part of the PML-N government’s plans to end loadshedding.

    Responding to various questions, water and power additional secretary Omar Rasool confirmed that the project had been put on the back burner, but said it had not been shelved.

    The committee was also informed that the Nandipur power project would now be able to contribute 425MW electricity to the system before the coming summer. Previous deadlines of early this year could not be met.

    The government had received expressions of interest from only six companies for 10 projects of 660MW each despite repeated extension in deadlines.

    The government had created the Gadani Power Park Management Company early last year as a special purpose vehicle for the management of 6,600MW power projects and to provide infrastructure facilities at the site to facilitate international investors, mostly from China.

    The 10 projects were first advertised in July last year seeking expressions of interest by Aug 18. Attributing the poor response from investors to sit-in protests in the federal capital, the government extended the deadline to Sept 29, but the response failed to pick up.

    The deadline was further extended to Oct 31. The government had earlier registered foreign companies for setting up all 10 projects at Gadani through negotiated memoranda of understanding. The firms had deposited earnest money in foreign exchange, but the government decided to invite bids to meet procurement rules to avoid controversies for awarding contracts through negotiations.

    Therefore, it asked the registered firms to send their expressions of interest, telling them their previous earnest money would be returned or adjusted.


    6,600MW Gadani power project put on back burner - Pakistan - DAWN.COM
     
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  3. Blackwater

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    one comment by paki whos eyes has just open unlike these 2 who choose to be ostrich


    @Neo @musalman

    China is here for self interest. This "Deeper than deepest ocean" blah blah is only because if Chinese interest in region. If US was our neighbour, it'd be same story.

    China isn't doing us any favor, rather we're doing them a favor due to the amount of concessions they get.

    First lesson of economics class: There is no free lunch and there only exists self interest. The sooner my fellow majority Pakistanis realize this, the sooner Pakistan can grow stronger. Until then, it's a third world country and a puppet state. It has to dance to the tunes of international aid. "We give you X, if you do X for us, even if it means going against your religion or cultural values."
     
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    Well, I guess Pakistan politicians are mature enough to understand this long before this event. They are not giving anything free to the Chinese, certainly they are not expecting anything free from Chinese.
     
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    I wouldn't be too sure of that mate. Pakistan is not exactly a meritocratic state, not the best/brightest/strongest people lead the country. They are just the sheltered feudal lords.
     
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    Yes, we are pretty sure about this. They are the same group of people as Chinese and Indian.
     
  7. sorcerer

    sorcerer Senior Member Senior Member

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    Sure thing mate..but
    You see sectarian violence in Pakistan which is not seen in CHina or India or Europe or any other country in the world.
    What @Dharmateja was pointing out I believe was,
    Pak administration relies on sectarian unrest to stay in power. THis means supporting certain fanatic groups while clamping down some one else..(opposition).
    This is not proper administrative set up based on rules and rights.
    When an administration relies on appeasement for survival than rules and rights... nations cant enter into contracts with such countries
     
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    What with " changing priorities of the Chinese government " ???? what was ealier priority and what is new priority ????
     
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    I do not understand the concept behind having 10 individual plants of 660 MW each.

    Studies have shown that plants with more than 1200 MW or even 2000MW will be more efficient. We can see in India now almost all new power plants coming up are more than 2000 MW.

    Guess our neighbours do not have the technical expertise to set up even a small 660MW plant.
     
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    paki politicians dont think about paki country,

    its not even a country,

    meaning behind creation of paki country is to only proxy against hindus and nothing else,

    hate and destroy or divide india and kill or convert hindus its the only identity and meaning and purpose of the existence of paki country,

    if it was real country then they would have stopped dreaming and obsessing over destruction of india and hindus,

    and started to make way to progress,

    but only thing paki really have instead of progress is their military which is useful to only one thing they want kill hindus and destroy india,thats why military rules paki country,

    and their politicians are mob bosses who only knows getting rich and entertaining their people with jihad against hindu and india.
     
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    Here comes the new priority http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/...rilateral-strategic-dialogue.html#post1002681


    Now that the trilateral synergy of CAP has been formalized Pakistan can also get supplied from the planned power project!
     
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    China – Pakistan nexus: Stealing of Balochistan resources

    Balochistan has been the centre of attention because of its vast coastline, enormous resources and strategic geographical location that is why every occupier wished to conquer Balochistan. From Nausherwan Adil to Pakistan all have attacked Balochistan to find a stronghold and loot Balochistan’s natural resources but the original owners of Balochistan ‘the Baloch people’ in their entire history have fought against the foreign invaders exercising their right to self-defence and for regaining their freedom.

    The concept of contemporary colonial system has changed but the main reason of Pakistan’s occupation over Balochistan is still loot and plunder Balochistan’s natural resources. The exploitative history of last 66 years shows that from Sui to Gawadar and from Chamalang to Saindak, Reko Diq and Gadani ship-breaking yard all have benefited the occupier but the life of an ordinary Baloch reflects the life of a medieval shepherd which has seen no development and growth.

    According to estimates at present Balochistan has at least 20 million metric tons of coal, 2 million metric tons Chromite, 3 million metric tons Barite, 1 million metric tons of Sulphur, a very large quantity of marble, 2 million metric tons of Gypsum, 27 million to 50 million metric tonnes of Iron and 16 million metric tons of Zinc, more than 300 metric ounces of gold, more than 50 metric tons of silver, and 23 million metric tons of copper in Chaghai district of Balochistan. In addition to them, dolomite, Fluorite, Limes Stone, Pumice and minerals, more than 60 more natural resources including at least 19 trillion cubic feet of gas and 6 trillion barrels of oil. Pakistan is currently stealing at least $42 billion dollars annually only from oil and gas reserves of Balochistan, this is only an estimate of the exploitation of Balochistan’s natural resources by Pakistan. It means because of Balochistan’s resources Pakistan is committing Baloch genocide as it commonly said ‘Pakistan need Baloch resources not the Baloch people’. Also Pakistan is using Balochistan as oxygen for itself that is why it will not easily end the occupation and human rights violations in ‘occupied’ Balochistan.

    In the last few days the Reko Diq [project] has been the subject of discussions, it located in the North-western district Chaghai area in Balochistan. It is estimated that Reko Diq could produce about 200,000 tons of Copper, 250,000 ounces of gold and 600,000 tonnes of other mineral and according world market prices an annual revenue of $3.64 billion is expected from these natural resources. This mineral reserve will last for about 55 years and during this time it is expected to generate a revenue of over $200 billion. The rightful owners of these resources ‘the Baloch people’ are deprived of benefits from these resources because they do have control over it whereas Pakistan is hastily selling Balochistan’s resources at throwaway prices.

    In the beginning the Reko Diq contract was given to Tethyan Copper Company, but later the contract was cancelled because TCC failed to present the resources feasibility report on time and showed very low prices because of China and Pakistan’s nexus. Then the contract was given to four Pakistani and Chinese companies, at the time of contract the companies were only one month old, which clearly shows that these companies were invented especially for this [Reko Diq] purpose.

    After cancellation of its contract the TTC filed a lawsuit in the International Court. On hand the case is still pending on the other hand Pakistan and its selected dummy government of Dr Malik and National Party was trying to reach an out of court settlement to sell Balochistan mineral reserves at cheap prices. This saga took a dramatic turn when a Pakistan journalists Mr Shahid Masood has revealed that TTC has made a deal with [government/Pakistan] under which the Tethyan Copper Company will repossess the contract under a different name and In return the TTC will transfer a substantial amount of $ 216 million bribe to the bank account of the son of Nawaz Sharif, PM of Pakistan, in London. The puppet Chief Minister Dr. Malik will get $ 29 million. The amount will be transferred to Toyota Showroom account of Shahid Baloch, a relative of Dr Malik Baloch who lives in Dubai. In addition, Sanaullah Zehri, a senior minister in Balochistan government, Mahmood Khan Achakzai, brother of governor Balochistan and Hasil Bezinjo, a leader of National Party will get two percent each. The Pakistani journalist did not dare to name the Pakistani Army but it obvious that such a huge deal is impossible without the blessings of army hence it is certain that there will be a large amount of money for the Pakistan military as well which so far has not been made public. This deal on one hand exposes the intentions of occupying forces as because of fear from pro-freedom Baloch forces Pakistan does not want to waste time to take advantage of Balochistan’s resources, on other hand it exposes the Pakistani stooges, the so called nationalists, that they were brought in power only to misguide the world that this deal is being sign with the consent of Baloch people.

    The real Baloch patriots/pro-liberation forces who have always opposed the exploitation of Balochistan’s natural resources, however, say that they will never allow the exploitation of Baloch resources. They have warned the international community, especially China to refrain from signing any deal with Pakistan about Balochistan’s natural resources because the Baloch will not allow these projects and the international companies will be responsible for any harm done to them and their properties. The pro-freedom Baloch forces also say that after the independent of Balochistan they will welcome companies and investor of other countries to come and work in Balochistan on the conditions of Baloch people. Until then the Baloch will not accept and respect any agreement signed between Pakistan and foreign investors.

    China – Pakistan nexus: Stealing of Balochistan resources | Balochwarna News
     

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