China Anti-Japan Protesters Out of Control

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  1. LETHALFORCE

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    Anti-Japan protests in China turn violent

    Anti-Japan protests in China swell, turn violent - Yahoo! News

    BEIJING (AP) — Protests against Japan over its control of disputed islands spread across more than two dozen cities in China and turned violent at times Saturday, with protesters hurling rocks at the Japanese Embassy and clashing with Chinese paramilitary police before order was restored.
    Thousands of protesters gathered in front of the embassy in Beijing. Hundreds tried to storm a metal barricade backed by riot police armed with shields, helmets and batons. Many threw rocks, bottles, eggs and traffic cones.
    While protests were orderly in some cities, demonstrators in southern China's Changsha ransacked a Japanese-financed department store and smashed Japanese cars, according to online reports. Similar acts targeting Japanese companies and businesses were reported in other cities.
    Anti-Japanese sentiment, never far from the surface in China, has been building for weeks, touched off by moves by Tokyo and fanned by a feverish campaign in Chinese state media. Passions grew more heated this past week after the Japanese government purchased the contested East China Sea islands from their private Japanese owners.
    Japan's Kyodo News agency said more than 60,000 people protested in at least 28 Chinese cities, making the anti-Japanese demonstrations the largest since the two countries normalized diplomatic relations in 1972. The protests were expected to continue Sunday.
    A Japanese Embassy employee declined to comment on the protests.
    Although Japan has controlled the uninhabited islands — called Diaoyu in Chinese and Senkaku in Japanese — for decades, China saw the purchase as an affront to its claim and as further proof of Tokyo's refusal to negotiate over them.
    Beijing made angry protests and tried to bolster its claim by briefly sending marine surveillance ships into what Japan says are its territorial waters around the islands and by ratcheting up state media coverage. Some news programs featured bellicose commentary.
    In Japan, candidates vying to lead the top opposition party called for a tough stand against Beijing in the dispute.
    Shigeru Ishiba, a former defense minister seen as a leading contender to head the Liberal Democratic Party, said in an election debate that Japan should send a strong message to China that it will not back down.
    "This is something that Japan should do as a nation," he said.
    Smaller demonstrations had been staged in China throughout the week. But they boiled over Saturday, especially in Beijing. Outside the Japanese Embassy, the protesters — most of whom appeared to be students — shouted slogans demanding that Japan relinquish the islands. Some hurled rocks, bottles and traffic cones at the embassy. As the crowd grew, police closed off a main thoroughfare to traffic. City buses skipped the stop near the embassy.
    Zhang Zhong, a 32-year-old computer worker, said Chinese should stand up against Japan, remembering its brutal occupation of much of China before and during World War II.
    "We cannot lose the Diaoyu Islands," he said. "We cannot forget our national shame."
    In Shanghai, about 200 police officers cordoned off the street leading to the Japanese Consulate, allowing protesters in groups of 100 to approach the building. Demonstrators had to register first with police.
    But in Changsha, protesters ransacked the Japanese department store Heiwado. They also smashed a police car made by Mitsubishi and overturned another Japanese-model car, according to online reports. Provincial police asked motorists driving Japanese-brand cars to avoid major thoroughfares and refrain from parking on the street.
    Kyodo said protesters ransacked at least 10 Japanese restaurants in Suzhou and damaged a Jusco supermarket run by Japan's Aeon group in Qingdao.
    Li Yiqiang, a Chinese activist for the islands, said he opposes violence but that heated behavior is unavoidable when strong feelings boil over.
    "When the national emotions erupt, it is understandable that some people would overreact," Li said. "How can you control spontaneous acts?"
    The demonstrations came before the anniversary Tuesday of the 1931 Mukden Incident which often triggers anti-Japanese sentiment. The incident was used by Japan as a pretext to invade northern China, and activists have called for more demonstrations Tuesday.
    The Japanese government had hoped its purchase of the disputed islands would calm rather than inflame the situation. The nationalistic governor of metropolitan Tokyo, Shintaro Ishihara, had proposed buying the islands in April and planned to develop them — something that Beijing would have seen as a powerful attempt to solidify Japan's claim. By purchasing them instead, the central government promised to keep them undeveloped.
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    Associated Press Television producer Aritz Parra, writer Christopher Bodeen and researcher Henry Hou in Beijing, reporter Eric Talmadge in Tokyo, and photographer Eugene Hoshiko in Shanghai contributed to this report.
     
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    re: Anti-Japan protests in China turn violent

    Awesome. Please drive away the Japanese from China. That FDI needs to come to India. Perfect timing too. Reforms in India versus violence in China.
     
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    Yeah if it would have been clever govt then we can use this oppurtunity to woo the japanese ,SK etc.
    We need the FDI
     
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    they are violent against japan but they want india to control tibetan protests against dragon cruelty !
     
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    no wonder Chinese and Pakistani are best friends, pakistanis are brainwashed by madressas and Chinese are brainwashed by CCP.
    Today i had conversation with a chinese guy, and he started the old flute of 1000 year old Chinese territory. By his (Chinese people’s) opinion china haven’t invade or bullied with any other country. Everybody want to invade in china and Chinese are doing just self defence. plus only one tvchannel in the world telling truth and its only CCTV and all the world sorces and free media are just liers.
     
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    Extremely violent in Northern cities like Xi'an, out of control. Now boycott of Japanese goods everywhere.

    18 Sept is gonna be another boiling day as the 81th anniversary of Mukden. The Battle of China - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ3tTbvsW_Q
     
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    Good. The Chinese demonstrations should be more violent. They should not only target the Japanese but all foreigners in China! Go Go Go out of China capitalist scums! (then go to ASEAN and India)... :thumb:
     
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    Age old anger against Japan find new avenues.

    Too bad!
     
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    How can they protest so violently against Japan when they are so meek against CCP that has in fact, killed far more Chinese than the Japanese had? :hmm:

    CCP is encouraging these protests but even they wouldn't like it to go beyond a limit. The limit being: Violent enough for the CCP to show to the Japanese that their hands are tied. But not so violent as to scare the investors away or to disturb the holy grail of "power transfer"!
     
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    CCP is son of bitch, but they are our son of bitch.
     
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    i doubt ccp every kill thousands baby by using bayonet or conduct germ warfare on thousands live human. most chinese die during CCP was due starvation, not by chopping head, bullet etc
     
  13. Armand2REP

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    What is at Stake? China loses

    TRADE

    For China:

    China’s second-biggest trading partner is Japan, coming after only the U.S., with $345 billion worth of goods going back and forth in 2011, representing 9% of China’s overall trade. That’s more than all the trade China does with the four other so-called Brics countries — Brazil, India, Russia and South Africa – plus the U.K.

    For Japan:

    China is Japan’s largest trading partner, and by a lot. China accounted for 21% of Japan’s exports and imports in 2011. The next closest was the U.S. at 12%, then South Korea at 6%.

    (Source: Global Trade Atlas, Japan External Trade Organization)

    INVESTMENT

    For China:

    China took in $6.3 billion in foreign direct investment from Japan in 2011, and has accumulated $69 billion in investments since 1996, according to data provider CEIC, based on Chinese government data. Japanese government data pegs the numbers even higher: $12 billion in 2011 and $83 billion accumulated investment since 1996.

    For Japan:

    Japan barely attracts any capital from China. It counts $560 million of total foreign direct investments from China as of the end of 2011, according to Japanese government data. By way of comparison, the U.S. has invested $70 billion in Japan over that time and the E.U. $94 billion.

    (Source: Japan External Trade Organization, CEIC)

    TRAVEL & TOURISM

    For China:

    China was Japan’s No. 1 international tourism destination in 2011. More than 3.65 million Japanese crossed the sea to visit China, a 50% increase from a decade earlier. That level, however, is a decline from the peak of 3.97 million in 2007.

    For Japan:

    At its peak in 2009, China sent 1.4 million visitors to Japan, including tourists and business travelers. The number fell to 1 million in 2011, something analysts attributed to the March 2011 earthquake and nuclear disaster, strained relations between the two nations and a strong Japanese yen. But the numbers seemed to be on the rise again this year. Through July, Chinese visitors to Japan hit 950,000, up 72% from 2011.

    (Source: China National Tourism Administration, Japan National Tourist Organization, Japan Tourism Marketing Co.)‘

    What's at Stake in China-Japan Spat: $345 Billion to Start - China Real Time Report - WSJ
     
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    China is a great country.

    It is so great that it lives in Cloud 9!

    Their stupidity and arrogance will make Japan go nuclear and Japanese are not pacifists as some may believe.

    China is only helping in militarising the South East Asia.
     
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    good question....... there r protests against cpc gov and in some cases these accidents also turned violent....but the point is people basically protest becoz of what is taking place currently.......just like muslims in india protested becoz of what happened to them in assam or maybe the new film thats resulting in some drama throughout the world.......but i guess they wouldnt protest too much else like something in 1947??.......

    and i got a question for u my indian friend which really i cant understand.........why after brits killed so many indians indians would use english as offical language and stay in the commenwealth after independency???
     
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    for starter if japan go nuclear it will really antagonize US, as it will create nuclear arm race in asia. S.korea will be next, S.korea hate japanese as much as chinese, then there is N.korea which likely will increse their nuke activities. etc
    2nd whats the point for japan to have nuclear wepona? china is not gonna invade japan mainland, and japan certainly is not gonna use nuke in diaoyu island dispute, its sucide.
     
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    I doubt if Japan worries as much about what the USA wants as they worry about the threats from China. The problem China faces is if the demostrations are allowed against Japan the demostrations might be against China next.
     
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    I think you mean: demostrations might be against CCP next, right?
    Well, that already happened, each year there were more 10000 protests against various CCP's policies from economy to society! None of them were approved by CCP, but they were just carried out!

    These protests, however, were aginst CCP's policy not CCP itself. If demostrations against Japan were not allowed, there must be demonstrations against CCP next!

    Today, CCP's legitimacy is based on two promises: economic development and sovereignty protection. If CCP doesn't make some response to Japan, itself will get a serious problem!
     
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    Soul Searching in China Over Man Beaten Senseless by Anti-Japanese Protestors

    September 23, 2012

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    With an orgy of anti-Japanese demonstrations prompted by a dispute over some rocky islands in the East China Sea having recently run its course, China is now being forced to contemplate just how out-of-hand the protests became.

    One of the worst examples: The case of a 51-year-old Chinese man Li Jianli who, according to the state-run Beijing Youth Daily, was beaten so brutally by an anti-Japanese mob for driving a Japanese car that he’s now partially paralyzed and can barely utter simple words like “thank you” and “hungry.”

    One graphic image posted to the newspaper’s website shows a man—presumed to be Mr. Li—on the ground, blood streaming from his head as a distraught woman sitting next to him pleads with the mob.

    Meanwhile, accounts of the viscous attack published on social media sites have prompted soul-searching among Chinese Internet users. Discussion of the incident was the top story on Sina Corp SINA -0.51%.’s Weibo microblogging service on Friday.

    The beating took place on the afternoon of Sept. 15 in the central Chinese city of Xi’an in Shaanxi province. Mr. Li, his wife, one of his son’s and the son’s fiancée, were on their way back from a shopping trip when Mr. Li’s white Toyota Cor SCT.LB -0.63%olla was set upon by an agitated anti-Japanese mob brandishing sticks, bricks and steel implements, according to the Beijing Youth Daily.

    Mr. Li’s wife urged the demonstrators not to damage the vehicle. “It was wrong of us to buy a Japanese car. We won’t buy one ever again, OK?” she was reported as saying by Beijing Youth Daily.

    But the gang beat Mr. Li anyway, striking him on the head with a steel shackle and causing him to lose consciousness. Later, he was rushed to hospital where he was treated for open brain injury and then moved to an intensive care unit. He remained there until he regained consciousness three days later.

    Mr. Li can now move the left-hand side of his body but the right side continues to be partially paralyzed.

    Although many users of Sina Weibo, which is popular among the urban and well educated, were critical of the anti-Japanese protests from the start, news that protestors severely wounded a compatriot because of the brand of car he was driving appears to have led to even stronger repudiation of the rallies.

    “This is so-called patriotism? It’s pure hooliganism,” wrote one microblogger.

    Others, meanwhile, expressed concern about how such incidents would reflect on China. “Damaging the life and property of your own people would only bring mocking from Japan and the rest of the world,” warned a Sina Weibo user.

    Mr. Li’s niece has been circulating commentary about the horrific attack on Sina Weibo. She declined to be interviewed by The Wall Street Journal saying she did not wish to speak to foreign media.

    In its Japanese-language report on the attack, Japan’s Jiji Press news agency also detailed other incidents of violence and intimidation in Xi’an the same day, reporting that other cars were overturned by gangs and a university student was roughed up and called “traitor” just for wearing a Japanese brand of clothing.

    – Colum Murphy

    Soul Searching in China Over Man Beaten Senseless by Anti-Japanese Protestors - China Real Time Report - WSJ
     
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    ^^China has proved now that it is the Big Brother of Pakistan, Sad but true...
     
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    Angry mobs are everywhere. Remember the Los Angeles riots? Remember the violent muslim protests in France couple years ago.

    How bad mobs may be in China, China can never be a bigger version of Pakistan or India simply because China is not a land where people's everyday life is dictated by religions.
     

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