Chief minister Manohar Parrikar: Policy to regulate flow of migrants

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  1. parijataka

    parijataka Senior Member Senior Member

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    I actually agree with this guy. Every state should do this, should states with high birth rates be allowed to swamp those with lower ? Also very important keep tabs on foreigners and illegal migrants in case of border states/

    Chief minister Manohar Parrikar: Policy to regulate flow of migrants

     
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    This is regressive politics in play. Instead of stirring up unnecessary regional emotions, what he should be doing is building infrastructure to support the increasing population. One just cannot shut their doors to migrants due to their own incompetency. This is a free country.
     
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    It's not about their incompetency, it's about manner-less people spoiling environment of your region because incompetency of leaders in their own region.
     
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    If it's about incompetency of leaders in their own region, it's also about incompetency of leaders calling to adopt regressive policies. The CM should lead by example.
     
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    VIP Ultra Nationalist Senior Member

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    USA has dual citizenship.You think it's a regressive policy,too ???
     
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    USA has dual citizenship for it's citizens? That's something new. Any source?
     
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    The moment you try to control free flow of labor, kiss economic success good bye!

    Manner less???

    I could decipher only this as a reason why he wanted to control the immigration

    Everything else he said was plain rhetoric.

    And for this problem, there can be many solutions if one really wants to find.
     
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  9. From :United States nationality law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
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    /\/\/\ I know that. I was responding to VIP'z baseless dual citizenship theory for India. An Indian does not need a Visa to go to some other place within India.
     
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    When it's BJP or other affiliated groups you talk about, logic is absurd.
     
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    It is regressive thinking. Do we not have members in here who cry about not being able to buy land in Kashmir. This is a flawed policy and has to be done away with.

    If increase in crime and sanitation is the issue, then effective policing & policies are the solution.
     

  13. And what is your point supporting any control is regressive ?
    that one member here is moaning about inability to buy Land in Kashmir , ?

    Do u have any better reasons ?

    First of all Kashmir is clearly an extreme ,one which is definitely not an example of what i m advocating

    and such restrictions are not limited to Kashmir alone ,

    In Himachal and Nagaland too , a Non domicile cannot buy land.

    This is idealism speaking . . .

    This is not a solution but merely high flying non implementable rhetoric .

    Give examples of implementable policies.
     
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    What does 'Not always . . .' mean?

    Learn to read. I said members. I did not say one member. With free passage of migrants comes new ideas, new cultures and helps grow that region economically. It will have it's share of problem too, which can be solved as I have mentioned in my last post.

    Not only Nagaland, in my native place too. This is one reason if not many why economic development is not taking place in the NE. People who want to invest would have to stay there for a significant period of time, bring in quality resources from outside. These people are kidnapped, extorted. Even Government projects are delayed and lay in ruins.
     
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    A chauhan "अहिंसा परमो धर्मः धर्म हिंसा तथैव च: l" Senior Member

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    A moderate level of migration control is must, every state has a right to protect its native people and their culture, while Goa being one of the smallest state can easily get affected by large number of migrants. Yet the control should be moderate or it will conflict with the constitution.
     
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  16. U speak of only the positives , and undoubtedly there are many reasons to promote interstate migration at times ,

    Just as there are times when such migrations are against the interest of those states

    States should be allowed to decide as per their needs, with central oversight . . . .that is what i favour.

    With large scale migrations come a lot of side effects too ,

    I asked you to put forth some examples of policies that may help in mitigating the problems that arise out of such situations

    You presented None .

    and Kindly mind your tone . I have been trying to avoid a heated confrontation, but you seem keen to pick up a fight.
     
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    You mean that migration (even if of moderate level) control, done by the state administration, is not bound to get ----ed up.
    Prove me how its efficiency will be better than state control and license raj.
    The administrations which are not even able to control the influx of illegal bangladeshi migrants will now stop rightful citizen from other states!:gtfo:

    And control what? Imaginary notions of culture and manners?

    Lesser the govt control, the better.
     
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  18. Kindly note what i said in my post , i am proposing central oversight over such controls within some constitutional limits

    Please prove how they are bound to get ----ed up ?

    Efficiency of what ?

    While i do not agree with your simplistic and one sided assessment of what will happen as a result of such policies
    have a look at the bright side of it too , in this context

    Illegal immigrants who until now found it easy to penetrate throughout India would be easily restricted to a few border states ,
    Making the scale of problem much smaller


    Control the loss of limited local resources to Non domiciles .

    Goa is a good case in point,
    The entire urban economy of Goa, is now in the hands of Non Goans.
     
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    While the flow of white collar workers may proceed unimpeded, the flow of unskilled labor sure must be regulated to an extent. How, I honestly don't have an idea.

    One of my earlier posts

     
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    So it's safe to say that all non-Marathis should be expelled from Maharashtra, all non-Kannadigas should be expelled from Karnataka and so on? If this happens, this would be adopted by all states out of political compulsion, and would led to chaos and riots. Forget, moving around inside your own country.
     

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