Chandrababu Naidu set to walk in as Narendra Modi's first ally on road

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    Chandrababu Naidu set to walk in as Narendra Modi's first ally on road to NDA-2

    NEW DELHI: BJP is likely to enter into a pre-election alliance with Telugu Desam Party, negating claims of a section of its leaders and rivals that the main Opposition would find it difficult to attract allies after naming Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi as its prime ministerial candidate.

    Negotiations have almost concluded with the N Chandrababu Naidu-led party and an electoral pact will be announced soon, a BJP leader told ET. Naidu will share the dais with Modi at a function in Delhi on October 2, for the first time since TDP parted ways with BJP-led National Democratic Alliance (NDA) in 2005, added the party leader, who did not wish to be named.

    BJP is keen to appoint Naidu as the convenor of NDA, the leader said, adding that Naidu had handled a similar responsibility when his party was a member of the United Front coalition.

    Cong Dividing Country, says Naidu

    Without divulging details of his talks with BJP, Naidu told ET that a regime change was required at the Centre to bring clarity in policies, confidence in the minds of investors and stability in the India story. "Congress is dividing the country on the lines of religion, caste and regions. We need a stable government to put the country and its economy back on the rails," Naidu said in an interview.

    Naidu was among those who attended a meeting at Akali Dal MP Naresh Gujral's home in Delhi on Saturday afternoon to discuss ways to strengthen the anti-Congress political platform ahead of the 2014 general elections. BJP leader Arun Jaitley and INLD leader Abhay Chautala were also present at the meeting.

    In his interactions with CPI(M)'s Prakash Karat and JD(U)'s Sharad Yadav, too, Naidu drove home his party's point that efforts should be made to consolidate the anti-Congress votes under one banner, rejecting the idea of the Third Front, a person privy to the details said.

    BJP has also been holding talks with INLD chief Om Prakash Chautala for a tie-up in Haryana, where the party already has an understanding with Kuldeep Bishnoi's Haryana Janhit Congress. "We could allot a seat to Bishnoi from our quota of seats. It will not create any hurdle," said a BJP leader involved in the talks. Abhay Chautala has expressed his party's keenness to work with BJP, the leader added.

    Modi, who has been spearheading the party's efforts at coalition-building, has also held talks with other potential allies, including Babulal Marandi in Jharkhand, BS Yeddyurappa in Karnataka and AGP's Prafulla Mahanta. The alliance with Marandi can be worked out if BJP agrees to contest the next election under his leadership, a person familiar with the matter said. But this will involve shifting former chief minister Arjun Munda, considered a favourite of BJP president Rajnath Singh, out of Jharkhand.

    The Gujarat CM is expected to cement his position in the party if TDP comes on board. His in-house rivals as much as those in other parties had labelled him as politically untouchable after Bihar Chief Minister Nitish Kumar's JD(U) severed its 17-year-old ties with BJP in opposition to Modi's elevation.
     
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    Re: Chandrababu Naidu set to walk in as Narendra Modi's first ally on

    Pratap Bhanu Mehta had written some time back in the IE that if BJP had the numbers they would find allies. This has been the way the Indian system has been working.

    In this case with Jagan Reddy entering into the Congress fold, Chiranjeevi has merged with the GOP, this makes him the lonely man of AP and he needs allies.
     
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    Re: Chandrababu Naidu set to walk in as Narendra Modi's first ally on

    True ! if BJP gets numbers they will get partners as well.

    Third front should be avoided at any cost, as they will be the worst kind of govt even bad than the Congress. Just imagine that the third front govt. takes backs terror cases against Muslims at a national level! just imagine the endless vote bank decision pocibilities.
     
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    Re: Chandrababu Naidu set to walk in as Narendra Modi's first ally on

    You can safely add AIADMK, MNS in pre-poll alliance. Also BJD and TMC post election. SP will provide external support if required (don't be fooled by what you see on TV).
     
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    Why a Naidu-Modi team up is a hopeless proposition
    This article clearly says that naidu is after bjp only and only for his own needs. After all he is a "politician" . Hopefully bjp does not fall and be duped again by tdp/naidu. Hopefully bjp grows on its own in both regions even if it takes time, they should look to strenthen the party than be fooled by tdp.
     
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    Today over lunch in office, was talking on the same issue with person whose native is some village near tirupati but in bengaluru for 10 years. As per him his family is a congress family, wherein they have usually voted for congress.

    He was very much against naidu, He was saying "naidu is self centered and power hungry man, nobody in AP believes him. He is never consistent,for example if he gives a statement in morning, by evening he says i didn't say that at all. He kicked out his own father-in-law for power. Later when his FIL died he shed crocodile tears and even now singing his tune only for votes. Though ysr was heavily corrupt, he was a much better person, certainly not a back-stabber" The statement within quotes are exactly his words.

    Now back to this office guy, he is nowadays confused person as to whom to support. Now he doesn't if they should go towards congress or jagan. Naidu is a big no. He follows modi, modi's speeches etc and is influenced by modi. But he knows that bjp is not a big player at all. Some sort of a fence sitter. He was saying if naidu is there, no way bjp will get votes anywhere in AP (again his words).

    Now to my Q, if chandrababu is a consistent flip-floper how did he get power?? Even now how is it that he has such a following?? Is it just caste votes??

    Paging few resident AP folks, @drkrn @tarunraju @dealwithit @happy @Iamanidiot

    Discailmer: My concern here is wrt growth of bjp in AP.
     
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    To be fair to Chandrababu, he had some pretty good plans for AP in his 'Vision 2020'. Though he came to power the first time by backstabbing his FIL, he is primarily responsible for the IT boom in AP. He was also responsible for bringing world class infrastructure to Hyderabad (how far he was successful is another story, but he initiated the process). AFAIK he was responsible for his own downfall. In my opinion, if he had given adequate importance to the farmers and govt. employees, he would have retained his seat. Ultimately, that lead to his downfall. Once, he lost power, his outlook changed and he lost sense of direction.
     
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    Re: Chandrababu Naidu set to walk in as Narendra Modi's first ally on

    Naidu is insecure person..

    What you are saying is totally true...

    Naidu has Kamma votes .... Jagan has Reddy plus christian votes...

    But Jagan doesn't have 10% brain what YSR had.......
    Corruption is like drinking water to them.. both father and son Though father is lot better then son.

    Jagan has lots lots n lots of money and Fans who want to repay their gratitude their father did for them mainly (arogya sree)(health benefit for poor)
    He has some major Media channels and News papers in his hand. apart from his own..
    his follower will be gifted with Scorpio(if he has 50-100 people in his hand)...

    Modi has lots of Fans in Andhra Region.. Surely will help Naidu. in terms of votes.. but how much will it help him win is question...

    If naidu keep saying that Jagan also is part of plan for state bifurcation .. He can turn some votes in Andhra region..

    Word is that "never underestimate TDP"
     
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    good `insider` info...thanks
     
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    Re: Chandrababu Naidu set to walk in as Narendra Modi's first ally on

    • Naidu got into power because of NTR's legacy. NTR was a good leader, and solved issues of all regions. Naidu isn't even NTR's colon bacteria when it comes to social-justice
    • Naidu wasn't very different from NaMo with his marketing. He struck deals with IT cos, offered Hyderabad as an alternative investment destination to Bangalore, and made tons of money in speculative/futures investments. The hottest commodity in Hyderabad was not property, but information. Where AP government was going to set up its next economic zone was invaluable information, with which common thugs could turn into billionaires overnight, by acquiring dirt-cheap farmland, and reselling/developing it.
    • The infra boom in Hyderabad pulled scores of landless peasants from agriculture into construction, when the boom fizzled out, they had nowhere to go back to.
    • Naidu's blatant neglect of development in the districts cost him his elections. YSR filled a void that was freely given to him.
    • AP has grown beyond caste- and religion-based politics way back since NTR's time. The only far-right party is AIMIM, and it's restricted to old-city Hyderabad. So Naidu couldn't have won polls on the caste plank. His party does comprise from a very influential caste (Kammas business class).
     
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    @dealwithit when you say the following
    "Word is that "never underestimate TDP" "

    Why so?? As you say he only has kamma votes. So is it possible for him to win elections only on basis of it??
    @happy @tarunraju
    Am not talking about his(chandrababu's) admin capacity but his political capacity today when it comes to winning elections. You people have to say this, is there any wave in favor of him now?? Or is it that he can just collect anti-congress and anti-jagan votes?? What about his party's position in telangana region?? Also can bjp really get atleast 20+ seats out of 40 odd seats in AP if they join hands with tdp (when i say bjp, it's along with tdp).
    If both together can't get atleast 20 seats, isn't it better for bjp to go alone, if no any other benefit, atleast it help bjp take steps towards their goal of becoming a player in AP.
     
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    I agree with you but BJP is nearly non existent in AP. It needs support and are we not talking of national elections? Andhraites can choose what they want in their state but they must differentiate between nation and state? Do you mean to say that andhraites are so stupid that they do not know this difference with all the education that thay have?
     
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    As the future of Andhra Pradesh has 'n' of possibilities as state dividing or united...

    BJP can get max of 4 to 6 and minimum 2 in ap...

    some TRS members are against Congress...

    My Idea is
    If State is divided. and If Modi want some seats from AP.. He should pull all TDP from T region to BJP.. as it has lost cadre .
    So BJP can finally start its Mark in AP... Already some members of TDP has joined BJP but it should be more....


    In andhra BJP has no cadre ........ has people of Andhra region are thinking because of bjp stated is divided.



    Main problem with BJP in AP is there is no Good Leader,,

    If leaders like Harish Rao from TRS joins BJP it can get 10 mp seats in T region easily
     
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    Where did i say that andhrites are stupid?? Also this time if am not wrong both assembly and lokasabha elections will be held together in AP.

    And if bjp needs support in AP, will it lose bigtime if it goes alone?? And if it goes along with naidu, will the alliance sweep AP or alteast more than half of seats. If not, bjp should go alone. How long should bjp be prone to getting scr***d by allies???? That too seeing how naidu treated them when they lost power in 2004. If not anything, this shows how opportunistic he is. Even nitish is much much better compared to naidu. In 2004, nitish hadn't even won bihar. If bjp wants to ally themselves with anyone, its up to them. But naidu, really??? Ok fine, as they say in politics that "there are no permanent friends or enemies" but will the alliance sweep AP?? If not its much better to put more efforts in UP/Bihar/MH. If bjp does get the numbers, where will this guy go, he will come back. Can he say no to power, that too as a bonus screw bjp again.
     
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    His political capacity is next to zero right now. He has lost the confidence of the people. There is no hope that TDP may atleast become the major opposition party in either Seemandhra or Telangana. Hard to say even how many Kamma votes he can garner. There is one chance to become largest opposition party and that is if there is no formal merging of Jagan's party and Congress.. As far as BJP is concerned it may be restricted to 2-5 seats as MLAs and maybe 1-2 MPs and that is if they go alone. If BJP and TDP join hands then it will become hard to get even half of the before mentioned seats for BJP. Together I think they may get around 5-10 MPs out of the total 42 MP seats. I think it would be best for BJP to go alone in AP.
     
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    :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
     
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    As I see it today, the so called advanced and educated states and their population is the biggest impediment to the growth of India as these educated idiots have no brains when it comes to national politics and needs. India has been let down not by the people of so called BIMARU states but by south India. The rural uneducated folfs who vote for the nation are far better than the educated stupids of south India. I have never understood the politics of Tamilnadu as they keep rotating only two parties who have never delivered anything to them. same is true about Kerala and Andhra.
    Only Kannadigas showed some spine but congress managed to fool them also by paying over 100 crores to Yeddy to set up his own party to bring down BJP.
    I can easily state that voters of Delhi will show the nation a way forward. You will see that we will give a very clear mandate to one party and the goondas of Ghaziabad supported by Congress will stand no chance. We all are watching as to how Kejriwal was never arrested for connecting the electricity by congress govt and who are funding these guys and how. Suddenly Kejriwal finds wrong only with BJP and none with Congress which looted delhites of thousands of crores in CWG scam.

    I want to ask all the people of andhra, how can a corrupt man be called efficient administrator? If YSR was corrupt and his son even bigger corrupt, how can you vote for him.
     
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    What you know is also known to BJP & TDP. I am sure if they have decided to align, there may be some reason and method to it. Plus NAMO is not stupid when it comes to his electoral maths. he is outstanding. Now take a case wherein BJP+TDP come out with a comprehensive package for Telangana nad Seemandhra? make both sides happy? can Jagan promise it? IMHO, anyone who talks of united andhra will be the biggest looser in the game and anyone who satisfy the aspirations of both sides will win.
     
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    Remember @happy has his support for Jagan.. he wont accept...

    I am for Telangana but even though congress announced T state .. I wont Vote for it
     
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