CBI be made an independent commission

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  1. SHASH2K2

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    Shouldn't the CBI be made an independent commission answerable to Parliament considering many cases are being handled by it are sensitive both financially and politically and they can be used by the govt and cause a miscarriage of justice.


    Given the number of scams and bigshots involved in them I think its a genuine demand and If PM is really serious about rooting out corruption he should think about it .
     
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    just amend one decision that cbi doesn't has to take any prior-permission of any higher authority before prosecuting any case and has power to take any case on its own whether belonging to state or center and just see the difference
     
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    Its not as easy as it sounds. No political party will like to loose an useful tool like CBI . I mean Congress as well as opposition. Specially for congress as it has mastered the art of misusing CBI to meet its political ends. Others are also waiting to use it in same manner when they come in power. we need to have a national consensus about role of CBI and whom should it report.
     
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    One example of how CBI is made to work for politicians.

    NEW DELHI: The CBI on Thursday failed to name Commonwealth Games organising committee (OC) chairman Suresh Kalmadi in its FIR despite having evidence against AM Films.

    However, Kalmadi's three close aides - T S Darbari, Sanjay Mahendroo and M Jayachandran who are in CBI custody were named in the FIR

    The three were arrested for alleged financial irregularities in Queen's Baton Relay.

    While Darbari and Mahendroo have been in CBI custody since their arrest on the November 15, Jayachandran was arrested on the November 20.


    Read more: CBI fails to name Games OC chief Suresh Kalmadi in FIR - The Times of India http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...-in-FIR/articleshow/6988803.cms#ixzz16IJjdNKq
     
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    CBI is indirectly controlled by the top powerful ministers of the ruling government. Politics plays huge game when CBI is zeroing in on someone. Take Suresh Kalmadi for eg, he is very close to the Gandhi family for years since Rajiv was PM. CBI still reluctant to arrest him.
     
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    All government agencies are incompetent or flawed in structure and will to perform.

    So is the feeling one gets when CBI, PAC, CVC etc are mentioned.

    At one time, CBI was the last word in detection and prosecution!


    Prima facie, it is extraordinary that a person who has been chargesheeted gets a promotion and then thereafter becomes a Vigilance Commissioner!!

    It is a great relief that this type of shenanigans is not possible in the Armed Forces.

    Avdesh Kumar was booked just as he was retiring!

    Lest the name of NC Vij Maharaj and Kapoor esq is taken, it is in the domain of the Central Govt to act.

    Not a drop of tear will be shed within the Army if these two and some more lurking in the woodwork are booked and cooked!
     
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    CBI, police, intelligence everything has to freed up from the control of the bloody politicians. The politicians use them like their slaves. IB is used to spy on opposition more than for counter intelligence. Police as everyone knows is for the politicians to use than serve the public. Systemic change at every level is required. KRANTI for better governance and public service is required. Everything is in a mess and still we are growing leaps and bounds. Imagine the potential when the system is better.
     
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    I like the way the EC works. I believe the Election Commission is the least touched by corruption compared to other civilian departments in the country followed by the judiciary.
     
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    To a certain extent you are correct . EC was impartial for few years after TN seshan, but after Naveen Chawla issue and the way he openly took congress side they are not impartial anymore.Congress is successful in planting a mole in EC office as well.
     
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    EC CAG Judiciary are all institutions defined or rather prescribed in the constitution.

    Various articles of the constitution deal with these institutions.
    CBI is just the part of the executive which means the government .

    for making CBI autonomous you need constitutional amendments.

    BTW police reforms as ordered by Supreme court are still hanging. So this is impossible.

    Anybody expects the govt to give up its powers.
    Unless PUBLIC hits the street in millions nothing will happen.

    Public is interested only in inflation.
     
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    i think cbi directors have made it mess . if u stand like a wall hell no bloody politican can touch u best egs are of some IPS police of Gujarat riot and then come a lady IPS officer who is gave her statement against likes rss / brangdal/bjp regarding babri masjid demotion case . whether u want or not thats fact.if any director wanted they could have pursued their case to neutrality . and nobody would dare to stop them but this people at highest level are hand in glove with politician and i donot see anything in changing in long future . can anbody porvides how FBI came in ther must have such cases in america too?
     
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    If you stand like a wall, then you are eased out.

    That is also applicable in services that are taken to have greater accountability and the feeling is that they are immune to political interference.

    FBI can also be 'directed' and so can the CIA!!

    A peek into the US Administration:

    I am sure what is applicable with the Bush Administration is applicable to all US Presidents' Administrations.
     
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    Watergate

    The trial judge, John J. Sirica, suspected a conspiracy involving higher-echelon government officials. In March 1973, James McCord wrote a letter to Sirica, claiming that he was under political pressure to plead guilty and he implicated high-ranking government officials, including former Attorney General John Mitchell. His letter helped to elevate the affair into a more prominent political scandal.

    The connection between the break-in and the re-election campaign committee was highlighted by media coverage. In particular, investigative coverage by Time, The New York Times, and especially The Washington Post, fueled focus on the event. The coverage dramatically increased publicity and consequent political repercussions. Relying heavily upon anonymous sources, Post reporters Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein uncovered information suggesting that knowledge of the break-in, and attempts to cover it up, led deep into the Justice Department, the FBI, the CIA, and even the White House.

    Now why should the FBI and CIA cover it up?

    Obviously because of political pressures!

    And jobs are not easy to come by and so many bury their conscience, grin and bear it!
     
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