Captured Terrorist Weapons by Indian Army

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  1. Kunal Biswas

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    The thread for posting photos of Captured weapons from terrorist by Indian Army or Paramilitary and discussing them ..

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    Seven terrorists killed by Army in Lolab in Kashmir Valley
     
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    Price was too high for capturing these weapons.
     
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    what happens to all these weapons? We must have collected tonnes of them by now.
     
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    How good these weapon are in terms of reliability ? And what we do with these captured weapons ? @Kunal Biswas @ALBY
     
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    Many of these firearm under use both by Army so does Police units ..

    The PKM used by Para SF are actually recovered from Terrorists so does short barrel AK47s ..

     
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    Kunal are you sure about that?Why couldn't they just import brand new PKMs from Russia or Bulgaria.Any way the PKMs used by SF are of older design.
    Concerning the reliability of weapons many of the weapons are of east german,romaanian,chinese and egyptian origin.All these rifles are kknown for their reliability.Only the AKs made at NWFP are doubtful of their performance.
    Any way the short barelled AKMs captured from terrorists are surely made at peshawar or NWFP.And RR and SOG are seen to be using these rifles during CT ops,that means its a no nonsense weapon.
     
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    Captured short barelled AKMs used by SOG

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    The PKs used by SF are either older PKs or more likely chinese made Type-80 machine guns rather than PKMs as the flash hider of the weapons of SF are longer than the PKMs.
     
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    Older, Soviet-made PKMs could also have the longer flash eliminator. The old PK, and the early PKMs, all had this longer flash eliminator.

    Do Indian security forces ever capture weapons such as Soviet-made or Communist Chinese-made Goryunov medium machine guns (MMGs), known as the SG-43 (Type 53 in the PRC) or the SGM (Type 57 in the PRC)?

    The PK/PKM series of general-purpose machine guns superseded the SG-43/SGM series of medium machine guns, which were the Soviet and Communist Chinese equivalent to the Second-World-War-vintage .30-calibre Browning M1919A4 company-level or medium machine gun which was used extensively by the U.S. and her allies. Many U.S. allies continue to use the Browning MMG. The SG-43/SGM, being an MMG, was mounted on a tripod and, like the Browning MMG (14 kg), was a solid (13.8 kg) and very reliable weapon with a heavy barrel. It could lay down a large volume of fire, again, like the Browning MMG (400-600 r.p.m.), but did not have an especially high cyclic rate of fire, which was about 500-700 r.p.m.

    SG-43/SGMs were exported by the USSR and the PRC all over the world to Soviet/PRC-friendly and Soviet/PRC-allied countries in Africa and Asia, especially to the so-called Vietcong, the Communist-nationalist guerrillas in South Vietnam, and the North Vietnamese armed forces. I haven't seen any SG-43/SGMs used by the Pakistani Army in what limited photographs I've seen of Pakistani soldiers, but being a close ally of the PRC it would seem logical that they would have picked up some PRC-made Type 53/Type 57 MMGs somewhere along the line.

    The Wiki item on the weapon is here: SG-43 Goryunov
     
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    Terrorists didn't use this type heavier weapons.Any way IA had captured SG-43s during 1971 war from Pak army at the battle of Bogra.We could also see chinese copies of SKS,and MG3s.
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    I guess it was a very different sort of conflict, but in the Vietnam War, the guerrillas of the People's Liberation Armed Forces of the National Liberation Front (PLAF/NLF), the so-called "Vietcong," used the SG-43/SGM/Type 53/Type 57 series of medium machine guns very extensively. But then the Main Force PLAF/NLF guerrillas did frequently operate in battalion- and company-sized formations.
     
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    In india terrorists operate in 2-3 numbers in kashmir ,in NE they operate in number of 10 to 15 and in naxal belt they operate in platoon level and only during planned attacks they employ company sizedd units.But never uses this type heavy weaponry.
     
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    we have shortage of weapons, we have to use this collected weapons for military use at border defence
     
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    I have noticed that.
     
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    As a rule of thumb most firearms used by insurgents and terrorist are in bad conditions. These firearms are unfit to be reservice in a modern military or police force. Rusted and with pitted barrels. Never maintain by their owners and use corrosive ammo.

    Over 7 years ago or so someone Arfcom posted almost all of the weapon they capture from the Iraqi Army and Insurgents were junk. Not worth their time. Different parts from different manufactures didn't fit well with each other, rusted, pitted barrel, etc. The rejects were so high it was a waste of his team time to check. If he had his way he throw all of them in the recycle bin. The US government want to save some money (for use with the new Iraqi military) so they had to go and check every captured small arms weapons. I believe the rejected rate was over 90% for his team.
     
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