can india play same game as china playing with us

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  1. arya

    arya Senior Member Senior Member

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    guys i am thining can we play the same game as china playing us

    we can use afganistan against pakistan as china is using pakistan there should be no diffculty in the game


    i think our think tank should work on this point

    what you guys think ??/
     
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    badguy2000 Respected Member Senior Member

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    Pakistan has a disputy border with India while AFG has no with CHina.
     
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    SHASH2K2 New Member

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    I hope you understand what does it mean? "we can use afganistan against pakistan" does it mention china by any mean ?
     
  5. arya

    arya Senior Member Senior Member

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    you first have to think then react

    there is disputed land between pakistan and afganistan and same game we can play as you are playing


    guys i dont think there is any hard thing
     
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    Yusuf GUARDIAN Administrator

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    Why do you think pak is shit scared about any enlarged indian influence in Astan? they can lose their entire western half because of disputes and local resentment.
     
  7. arya

    arya Senior Member Senior Member

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    what our thinktank is doing while china can play game with us why cant we

    why cant we show some guts and show the pakistan if they dont stop then we have to do some thing
     
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    Yusuf GUARDIAN Administrator

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    Because we have always been reactionaries and not proactive. Lack of strategic vision like the chinese and pure lack of focus in this regard.
     
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    First of all we got to respect the sovereignty of the Afghans and never try to use them like the Pakistanis or USA it will only back fire on us.....
    Besides If we keep up the good work we have been doing in Afghanistan we will gain enough good will among the masses which will be help full in diplomatic discussion with the Afghans and in the future open up an avenue for an airbase or two....
     
  10. arya

    arya Senior Member Senior Member

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    then what you think what will be our future

    while we cant think act in favour of our nation how will our future secure
     
  11. Yusuf

    Yusuf GUARDIAN Administrator

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    as india grows it will realize the folly of its lack of proactiveness and then start to think about securing national interest and playing dirty games in geopolitics. There would be no option but to do it..it may well be happening already.
     
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    no smoking Senior Member Senior Member

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    Is Afgans willing to play as the enemy of Pak for india's interest? I doubt it. As I know, one of Afgan biggest tribe was collest ally of Pak. They are still enjoying a strong support of Pak.. How much does india give to change their stance?

    The one thing you ignored: before china's coming in, Pak was already an enemy of india. As to Afgans, it is totally different: the gov is supported by US. its interest groups are supported by various countries: China, Iran, Russia, Pak, etc. So, if india want Afgan to risk everything in playing a dangerous game against Pak, you must bill out everyone. Does india have that financial power?
     
  13. Rage

    Rage DFI TEAM Stars and Ambassadors

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    Afghanistan has no border with China? Ever hear of the Wakhjir Pass?


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    Besides, the whole of the Afghan-Pak border is a no-man's land anyway. Where people of several different ethnicities (Afghan-Pashto/Hazara, Tajik, Persian, Kyrgyz, Balouch, Punjabi, Sindh, Uzbek and Indian) intermingle, and you would not necessarily know the difference.

    The Wakhan Corridoor (adj. to the Wakhjir Pass) is some 210 km. long. But don't be confused by the ill-devised anomaly. The whole area is one big, poorly-patrolled, ill-conceived mess. So it is with all of that barren mass, called Central Asia.
     
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    Rage DFI TEAM Stars and Ambassadors

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    @ the thread starter, I don't doubt it already is.

    Faizabad is a base of operations, together with Jabal-us-Seraj, a huge concrete set-up manned by the intelligence officers of several different countries.
     
  15. Bangalorean

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    The average Afghan on the street hates Pakistan more than an Indian hates Pak. Visit some Afghan/Pashtun forums, or even some of the Pakistani forums where this whole thing is discussed,
     
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  16. thakur_ritesh

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    you need to do a better research, pakistan/pakistanis are the most hated lot in afghanistan and india/indians the most liked in afghanistan amongst pushtuns/non-pushtuns, heck even the afghan taliban made of pushtuns supposedly the closest allies of pakistanis dont even trust the pakistanis, so much for being called allies.

    @thread,

    what suggests india is not already active there and working on things that we should be doing? we dont need to make too many assumptions when we dont have all the details with us and no it is not just afghanistan but iran as well which on its part is decently active in pakistan right from GB to baluchistan and all such areas which are shia dominated.
     
  17. Ray

    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    Afghanistan does not recognise the Durand Line.

    So, the Pashtuns on both side will sort out issues once Afghanistan stabilises.

    They have tasted blood!
     
  18. Ray

    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    No smoking,

    Read up what Pashtunkhwa is all about.

    The Pashtuns on the 'Durand Line', which they do not recognise is making Pakistan and its Army's life hell. Why should allies do so, if indeed one goes by your theory?

    The Taliban when in power in Afghanistan after the withdrawal of the USSR, categorically stated that they don't recognise the Durand Line. Check that out!

    So, figure!
     
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    neo29 Senior Member Senior Member

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    Coming back to the topic .... China considers India has a major rival in terms of economy. Though the Indian Armed is capable enough for defence, China still considers them to be inferior to PLA and thinks we can muscle flex them easily.

    The day Indian Armed Forces are a equal match to PLA, China will come to the negotiations table.

    Apart from this reason our eastern borders are so complicated that some indian villages are 2 km across the Indian post. The villages are patrolled in day by Indian forces and night by PLA. The hell lot of complications in the border makes the case of negotiations very very tough and of course the lesser strong nation has to adjust.
     

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