British women 'beaten and left stranded' following row in Guangzhou

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    British women 'beaten and left stranded' following row in Guangzhou shoe shop

    British shoppers say they remain stuck in China months after being beaten by shop workers and arrested following a dispute over slippers


    Two British women who travelled to Guangzhou on a week-long shopping trip in June remain stuck in the city two months later after an argument over counterfeit slippers led to them allegedly being assaulted.

    Despite members of their families flying from Britain to China, attempts to get them onto a plane home have foundered because of a complex criminal investigation which could see them stranded in China for up to a year.

    The families also say they have been left disillusioned by British diplomats in Guangzhou who they claim did little to help.

    Britons Mary Idowu, 59, and Esther Jubril-Badmos, 48, from London travelled to Guangzhou on June 16 for shopping and planned to stay for a week.

    But after getting into an argument over a 500 yuan (HK$630) deposit for a pair of slippers, the two were detained by police in Zhanqian, Liwan district, on June 21 for "provocation and disturbance of peace".

    Their visas expired during their 38-day detention, leaving them stranded in China.

    The women say that, despite paying 45,000 yuan to settle the case, police refused to cancel their bail - a condition required to apply for an exit visa - citing the on-going criminal investigation, which could take up to a year.

    Jubril-Badmos said she ordered 15 pairs of slippers at 150 yuan each and put down a 500 yuan deposit. She came to collect them three days later but found they carried the brand name Gucci. Fearing the label could cause problems with British customs officials, she asked for non-branded slippers instead.

    But staff in the Xinwantong clothes market told her to pay the full sum for the counterfeit items or lose her deposit.

    A quarrel ensued and a male shop worker hit Jubril-Badmos, who weighs only 55 kg, in the face, she claims.

    "I saw stars immediately. He pulled my hair so hard that the hair roots were plucked out," she said, adding that her right arm, face and legs were covered in blood after the attack.

    After police arrived, the women say they both were taken away while the shop staff were allowed to remain free. Jubril-Badmos was later accused by Zhanqian police of causing minor injuries to the man and three other women.

    The two women say they were detained and interrogated by local police and denied medical treatment until they completed a statement.

    They were told to sign dozens of documents in Chinese, including a written confession, which they did not understand. After spending a week in detention centre, Jubril-Badmos was kept in hospital for 25 days as she could not stop vomiting after the assault and her blood pressure soared. Meanwhile, Idowu was kept in a detention centre with 15 people in a cell, sleeping on the floor next to a toilet.

    Last month, Idowu's daughters arrived from Britain to try to secure their mother's release. On July 29th, the Liwan district prosecutor refused to prosecute the case against the women, citing inadequate evidence, which finally led to them being released on bail. However, they remain in legal limbo.

    Laura Idowu, 20, Mary's youngest daughter and a law student in the UK, said: "It's indescribable and I'm flabbergasted by the Chinese government and its police system. I have come to realise that there's so much corruption in the police force."

    Desperately wanting to go home, they say police suggested they could settle the case by paying compensation to the shoe shop. However, they were told they had to pay 207,580 yuan, which included 35,000 yuan for a jade bracelet and 150,000 yuan for a diamond ring.

    "It's been unfair … I think they took advantage of us because we're foreigners in a foreign land," Jubril-Badmos said. They say they finally paid 45,000 yuan to settle the case, but police refused to relax bail conditions, citing ongoing investigations.

    This article appeared in the South China Morning Post print edition as Shop row pair 'beaten and stranded'

    British women 'beaten and left stranded' following row in Guangzhou shoe shop | South China Morning Post

    British women 'beaten and left stranded' following row in Guangzhou shoe shop | South China Morning Post

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    Indicative how shopping cab be dangerous in China.

    And the Chinese police and the law may not conform to international norms being draconian and insensitive.
     
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  3. Armand2REP

    Armand2REP CHINI EXPERT Veteran Member

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    This certainly isn't going to help Chinese tourism.
     
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    The point being if you go against the local maffia and reject cheap copycat products then not even police can help you? You are either forced to buy cheap low quality products or sent to Jail. Sure, pussyass countries like UK can't do shyt!
     
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    Re: British women 'beaten and left stranded' following row in Guangzho

    I like what I see.
     
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    Can't believe this happened in Guangzhou !

    - See more at: Where do Foreigners Live in Guangzhou?_Life of Guangzhou

    Mary & Esther must have done something untold in this report
     
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    i feel there is untold part in this story,
    if she is illegally detained what are the diplomats doing.aren't they are good enough to handle a street dispute??
     
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    hmm seem there are more to it then this article describe.
     
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    Re: British women 'beaten and left stranded' following row in Guangzho

    chinese are the most racist people.
    i read in other news that they treat black people very badly in china and people in china don't marry countryside people because they have dark color.

    but no one will ever find out the truth because of the fear of red tape
     
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    Don't go to China simple as that. Why travel to a country that has no regard for human rights
     
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    generlize much? china is pretty safe other than some petty theft.
     
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    Hell no China has one of the worst human rights records in the world.
    they can't even come to a western country without being disgusting pigs.
    Did u know the whores on the street here in Auckland are mostly Chinese females meant to come here as students. Instead flood our streets spreading diseases.
    China is hated around the world as been savages.
     
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    Re: British women 'beaten and left stranded' following row in Guangzho

    China is an OK place to visit.

    Only the language is the real barrier.

    And their English, well mostly, is unintelligible.

    It is Gooor Moooooooooong for Good Morning and they will insist in imposing English, as they speak on you!

    I am sure it is Greek to them when you speak "Mandarin" from the English to Chinese help book that you carry since Mandarin has tonal signal that mean different things for the same word!

    But they are hospitable, more so, when they know that you have a Western citizenship!

    Food is horrid. It is not as delightful and palatable as the 'Chinese' we eat in India. If there is any example of bland, then it is in Chinese Chinese food. Worse that the bland English food!

    Actually the Han feels that the rest of the world are 'savage'.
     
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    seem like chinese competition kick you out of the street lol. i went to china and know chinese aboard, there are FAR worst place that has human right issue. obivouslly your lack of understand china make you the racist/sterotype.
     
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    i don't know where you go for chinese food. but chinese food in china is MUCH better than here in the state.
     
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    The issue is not whether the food is good or bad, it is just that the Chinese food in China appears bland to the Indian palate.

    I am sure the Chinese would love the food since it would be suitable to the Chinese palate,
     
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    S002 lol whites don't work the street. Only yellows do. Just because a person points out there are dogs barking doesn't mean they hate dogs.
     
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    when you say bland, is it not spice or something else.
     
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    It is the question of the palate!
     
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    Their English is unintelligible? They are complaining that 400 million Han can't even speak coherent Mandarin so they want to ban English classes! :rofl:
     
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    how many hindu dialogue there are? china literacy is pretty high, also there are tons chinese students oversea who write really good english.
     

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