British woman police officer who converted to Islam

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    Meet four of the 5,000 Brits who become Muslims each year:shocked::shocked::shocked::shocked:


    EVERY year, more than 5,000 Brits convert to Islam.
    More than half of those who make the switch are white – and 75 per cent are women.
    But what would make someone want to change their lifestyle so dramatically? Police Community Support Officer Jayne Kemp left her Catholic roots behind after “falling in love” with Islam while helping victims of so-called honour violence.
    Here EMILY FOSTER, JENNA SLOAN and EMILY FAIRBAIRN speak to Jayne and three other women about why they decided to become Muslim.
    PCSO Jayne, 28
    JAYNE KEMP patrols her beat wearing a traditional hijab headscarf and even works extra time after shifts so she can attend Friday prayers at her mosque.
    Devout Jayne converted to Islam last April and even plans to change her name to Aminah.
    The single mum, who patrols Eccles, Gtr Manchester, as a Police Community Support Officer, says: “I thought Islam was all about women being forced to slave away in the kitchen — but I found out it was about being generous with your time, and patient and respectful of others.
    “As I looked into it, I saw similarities with Catholicism and noticed values such as looking after your neighbours and cherishing the elderly, which is something older people say younger people don’t do any more.
    “I wasn’t looking for any religion at the time but for every question I had answered about Islam, I had five more. I think I fell in love with it.”





    Read more: Meet four women who have converted to Islam | The Sun |Woman
     
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    rock127 Maulana Rockullah Senior Member

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    The question is..... when is British Queen going to convert? :lol: :lol:

    Let them breed and convert that white British trash... let them suffer for what they did to their colonies for centuries.

    Time for payback :lol:
     
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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    There could be many reasons.

    One could be poor pay. Conversion does carry immediate benefits.

    Second, it could be that the British white have poor libido compared to the foreign Muslims and so the British women are frustrated!

    It is said that Queen Victoria had an Indian Muslim servant from Agra to service her!
     
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    may be conversion is just trick to make them informer in Muslim community,which is venerable in UK ????
     
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    Victoria's secret crush: How Queen fell under the spell of Indian servant after death of ghillie companion John Brown

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    Just imagine. It’s the Queen’s Diamond Jubilee year, the eyes of the world are on London... and the Prince of Wales threatens to have his mother declared insane.
    Unthinkable? Well, that’s what happened to Queen Victoria in 1897 after her Royal Household refused to condone any longer Her Majesty’s shockingly intimate friendship with an Indian servant.

    It was a relationship that violated Victorian taboos of race and class, and threatened to destabilise the monarchy and the Empire – yet, although Queen Victoria’s earlier scandalous relationship with her Scottish ghillie [an outdoor servant] John Brown is still common knowledge today, her deep affection for her Muslim servant has been almost forgotten.

    A new Channel 4 documentary, Queen Victoria’s Last Love, rediscovers how, as courtiers plotted to depose the royal favourite, the nation’s Jubilee celebrations teetered on the brink of chaos.

    The story began a decade previously, in June 1887, when tall, handsome Abdul Karim, aged only 24, arrived at court as a ‘khitmagar’, one of two Indian servants recruited as waiters at the Queen’s table. Queen Victoria, in her Golden Jubilee year, was 68 and had never recovered from the loss of her dear Albert some 26 years earlier; moreover, her only other close male confidant, John Brown, had died in 1883. The Queen was lonely and in need of male companionship.

    ‘When he first appeared at court, Abdul looked wonderful in his gorgeous sashes and turbans,’ explains royal biographer Professor Jane Ridley. (Unfortunately, he later became rather fat.) ‘Queen Victoria always had a great appreciation of male beauty. So when she saw him, kissing her feet... how could she resist?’
    Within weeks Karim was well on his way to becoming rather more than an ordinary dining-room servant. Kitchen archives at the Queen’s favourite residence, Osborne House on the Isle of Wight, reveal that curries featured on the menu every Sunday lunchtime.
    ‘Had some excellent curry, prepared by one of my Indian servants,’ the Queen remarked in her diary later that summer. ‘We know that Abdul Karim and the Indian attendants prepared the meat, procured their own spices and were given a corner of the main kitchen to prepare these authentic curry dishes,’ says Michael Hunter, the curator at Osborne House. Meanwhile, Karim regaled the Queen and Empress, who had never visited India, with stories and legends from the land that was the exotic jewel in her crown.
    Soon he was teaching her Hindustani, having somehow led the Queen to believe he was a man of some education. ‘Young Abdul teaches me,’ she wrote in her diary. ‘He is a very strict master and a perfect gentleman.’ From then until the end of her life, the elderly Queen kept a daily record of her studies and proved an adept pupil, writing in a neat Hindi hand. Karim became her ‘Munshi’, the Hindi word for teacher.

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    But their translation exercise books betray a more flirtatious relationship. Lucy Worsley, curator of the Historic Royal Palaces, says, ‘He wrote things like, “The Queen will miss the Munshi very much. Translate. Hold me tight. Translate.” It does seem quite personal and intimate.’ The Queen seemed to think of Karim almost as a son, affectionately signing letters to him as ‘your loving mother’.
    Her indiscreet affection caused consternation among the Royal Household, led by the Queen’s private secretary Sir Henry Ponsonby and her doctor Sir James Reid, who resented the ambitious young Indian upstart who was breaching all protocol. ‘The Household had never been used to Indian servants,’ explains the present-day Lady Reid, who married the royal doctor’s grandson. ‘The Queen was always worrying about their comfort and Sir James had to have special tweeds made for them in Indian styles because she wanted them to look exotic.

    he courtiers’ resentment came to a head after the Queen promoted Karim to Indian Secretary. Even the Viceroy – the Earl of Elgin – was nonplussed after receiving an ingratiating Christmas card from the Munshi in 1894, only to be rebuked by the Queen for snubbing her favourite when he failed to reciprocate. It wasn’t simply racism; there was no code of etiquette that enabled a Viceroy to hobnob with servants. (Victoria, however, had no racial prejudice and had adopted a little African girl in 1850, providing her with an education and a generous £250 trousseau when she married.)
    The Viceroy now despatched his aide-de-camp – Fritz Ponsonby, son of the Queen’s private secretary – to make some overdue inquiries in Karim’s home town of Agra. The Munshi had given the impression that he was the son of an Indian army surgeon. In fact, he came from a much lowlier background. His father was an apothecary at the local prison, where Karim himself had previously been employed as a clerk. It fell upon Sir James Reid to deliver a blistering put-down: ‘By your presumption and arrogance you have created for yourself a situation that can no longer be permitted to exist,’ he thundered. ‘You are an impostor. You are from a low class and never can be a gentleman.’
    The Queen was livid. ‘To make out the Munshi is low is really outrageous,’ she protested in a memo to Sir Henry. To everybody’s horror, she now wanted to bestow a knighthood on him. Victoria was in danger of undermining the monarchy itself, devaluing all the trappings of Empire if a prison worker’s son could rise to such an exalted position.

    On the eve of the Diamond Jubilee, she even threatened to pull out of the celebrations. The Royal Household delivered an ultimatum, triggered by Dr Reid’s revelation – in an extraordinary breach of professional etiquette –that Karim had contracted a venereal disease. Courtiers threatened to resign rather than allow the Munshi to accompany them on a royal holiday in France. In a fit of rage, the Queen swept everything off her desk.
    But then her son Bertie, the Prince of Wales, conspired with Dr Reid and encouraged him to deliver another ultimatum. ‘There are people in high places who know Your Majesty well,’ threatened the brave Scottish doctor when he faced her next day, ‘Who say to me that the only charitable explanation that can be given is that Your Majesty is not sane, and that the time will come when, to save Your Majesty’s memory and reputation, it will be necessary for me to come forward and say so.’
    The threat hit home and Queen Victoria was forced to concede defeat. There would be no knighthood for Karim, although he remained at her side throughout the celebrations. However, when she died, in 1901, he was dismissed from Court – just days after attending her funeral – and sent back to India. All his letters and mementos from the Queen were confiscated and destroyed: the new King Edward VII did not look kindly on the Indian servant who had been the last great love of Queen Victoria’s life.
    Queen Victoria’s Last Love is on Wednesday at 9pm on Channel 4.


    Queen Victoria and Abdul Karim: After John Brown's death, Queen fell for Indian servant | Mail Online
     
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    @Blackwater

    If Muslims are at it, I wonder why the Sardars are not at the game.

    Khushwant has said that they are the BEST! :)
     
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    could you pls elaborate????
     
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    Monetary Benefits plus Muslims have been really aggressive and persuasive in their campaign it happens everywhere they go just like christian evangelist.
     
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    could be ....in some or many cases ............. but the "modern" fast life with costs escalating and the ever continuing chase for more and then more forces one to search for something better .
     
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    Whatever the reason so long its not conversion under force seems legit to me.
     
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    The Birtudistan stands on the meme of the Royal Family and that is the source of their power. (What Allah and PBUH is to Muslims)

    Royal Family submitting to Allah and the sight of the Queen in Burkha would Destroy the backbone of Birtudistan!

    May Allah bring the Kufr Queen into his Fold ASAP!
     
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    Armand2REP CHINI EXPERT Veteran Member

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    5000? Coming from The Sun, the next question is when is the Queen going to have an alien baby.
     
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    i know sun is Indian version of manohar kahaniya and punjab kesri. but Muslim conversion is fact in UK
     
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    She voluntarily converted to islam what so fuss about :confused::confused:
     
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    What can I say there are retards in every place:lol:


    Either sh is an attention ***** or she is a masochist who wants spanking from her hubby from time to time:truestory:
     
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    Before that happens, India would become an open caliphate:taunt1:(instead of being a closet one which it is now;))
     
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    There are some, but more like 5000 in the last decade. That also doesn't account for the converts to Christianity which is several times greater. People coming into these countries automatically get labeled Muslim just for their ethnicity, whether they practiced or not., or converted or not.
     
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    Hopefully their hubbies slapping them with whips will drill some sense into them:lol:
     
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    A dastardly lie. It was a Scotsman, Sir!

    Mrs. Brown - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

     
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    Queen Victoria's Last Love - 4oD - Channel 4

    Queen Victoria and Abdul Karim: After John Brown's death, Queen fell for Indian servant | Mail Online

    BBC News - Queen Victoria and Abdul: Diaries reveal secrets

    Abdul Karim (the Munshi) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
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