Bramhos will never have a range more than 300 kms

[Mr.Ryu]

Bramhos 299 kms, still a big killer

Ya big killer 300Km with Mach 3 you will be killed before you can react you can only go under and wait for the meeting with your maker

 

[Defcon 1]

There is no reason for panicking on the limited range of Brahmos, because the air launched version will be developed soon and it will increase the potential of brahmos many fold.....Moreover look how Brahmos is being deployed. Three regiments against pakistan, whose most of population will come under its range, and one in NE, to guard against chinese invasion, it is not being deployed as an offensive missile against china and hence the current range will suffice...In addition, the future use of Brahmos will be for export purposes only.

 

[p2prada]

An air launched version does not mean extended range. The firing will be done only at subsonic speeds of 400-500Kmph. It shouldn't affect the range as much.

The platform's range is the added bonus though.

 

[Sunder singh]

An air launched version does not mean extended range. The firing will be done only at subsonic speeds of 400-500Kmph. It shouldn't affect the range as much.

The platform's range is the added bonus though.

no it mean when take su 30 400 Km inside enemy territory u will virtualy increase the range and more over it will economical then same 700 km missile bcoz u can reuse the plane

 

[p2prada]

Yeah. The platform's range is an added bonus.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

If Nirbhay air launched missile is developed soon and if it has the same range as land-sea version
it will make deep strikes possible without having to fly deep in enemy territory. Also development of
deep strike suicide drones in large numbers will be a game changer.

 

[Payeng]

An air launched version does not mean extended range. The firing will be done only at subsonic speeds of 400-500Kmph. It shouldn't affect the range as much.

The platform's range is the added bonus though.

Air launch means extra benefit, the missile system do not require to fight against gravity to reach desired altitude level plus the variation of density of air.

Land launch Python 5 have a reduced range on SPYDER system
Land launch Derby have a reduced range on SPYDER system
Land launched AIM-120 AMRAAM have a reduced range on NASAMS

altitude being a deciding factor here is some infomation about aam's
Air-to-air missile non-comparison table

not sure about cruise missiles like BrahMos but atleast it can break the 300 km mark if air launched if land variant is believed to be 280 km.
It seems like the sub 300 km limit is as per marketing perceptive rather then capability perceptive.
Unlike Ballistic missiles, cruise missile are guided missiles like AAM, powers and guides the system till the last resort of positioning it to hit the target.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

some food for thought Brahmos weighs more than tomahawk and flies faster than tomahawk and the range is 300km??

 

[Rahul92]

I am just looking forward for Bramhos 2 which HAS MACH 7.0

BrahMos - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[LETHALFORCE]

I am just looking forward for Bramhos 2 which HAS MACH 7.0

BrahMos - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Will the range be more than 300km??

 

[Rahul92]

Will the range be more than 300km??

No its only 290km :Cry::Cry:

 

[LETHALFORCE]

No its only 290km :Cry::Cry:

For a BrahMos II to reach higher range it has to be made completely indigenously; all technology required for a longer range delivery would have to be indigenous.

Development would be without any assistance from Russia. Russia is a MCTR signatory and this would be a violation especially assisting a non-signatory.

The missile name Brahmos 2 implies it is a joint India-Russia effort and by the same group as Brahmos and will follow the same MCTR restrictions as BrahMos..

There has never been a MCTR violation by a signatory to a non-signatory in the history of the treaty and I doubt Brahmos 2 will be the first.

 

[Payeng]

For a BrahMos II to reach higher range it has to be made completely indigenously; all technology required for a longer range delivery would have to be indigenous.

Development would be without any assistance from Russia. Russia is a MCTR signatory and this would be a violation especially assisting a non-signatory.

The missile name Brahmos 2 implies it is a joint India-Russia effort and by the same group as Brahmos and will follow the same MCTR restrictions as BrahMos..

There has never been a MCTR violation by a signatory to a non-signatory in the history of the treaty and I doubt Brahmos 2 will be the first.

Well I think their have been some violations by non signatories like Pakistan and China, but not in the daylight.

The striking similarity of some Chinese and Pakistani solid fuel rockets

 

[Payeng]

moreover it is also interesting that US use Pakistani air space to launch Tomahawk missiles into suspected Bin Laden camp, a few of them did not reached the target and fell into Pakistani territory, later Pakistan announce the launch of Babur cruise missile, a Tomahawk look alike but with lower performance, was that the cost paid by the US to Pakistan for using her airspace and territory? was it intentional from the US side to help/let Pakistan examine the Tomahawk as a cost paid to reach Afghanistan? Or did the US helped Pakistan to build a cruise missile as a deal in disguise?

 

[Nirvana]

There is Nothing like a Long range Brahmos II !! this is just a rumor being spread on Internet,Any JV With Russian on missile tech will have it's limitation.Yes there will be an Hypersonic Brahmos but range will be Limited.The Nirbhay will be a subsonic cruise Missile.

Livefist: LiveFist EXCLUSIVE: The Truth About BrahMos - Part V

BrahMos II Will be altogether a new Missile with new design.... ^^ this was revealed by shiv aroor earlier

Coming back to Long range Cruise Missile,the said development of supersonic LRCM with a range well over 1000 km is not officially acknowledged by DRDO until now.But they are developing an Hypersonic Scramjet Powered demonstrator which can applied on future cruise Missiles and a liquid-fuel ramjet Powered cruise Missile was also reveled by DRDO in a presentation.

 

[Nirvana]

The Brahmos,Shaurya,Nirbhay have no connection's whatsoever.All of them Being in different class - A Supersonic cruise Missile,A Quasi Ballistic Missile,a Subsonic cruise Missile.

It's same like Rumors being spread that K-Series SLBM's are derivatives of Agni Series - K-4 being SLBM Version of A3 and K-5 of A5.The Long Range SLBM's being developed are altogether a new class of Missiles Being developed with new Platform starting from K-15,There is no Agni connection here.
the Agni series Missile's wont fit in 10 M Diameter of ATV hull which led to development of completely new series of Missiles.

 

[p2prada]

Air launch means extra benefit, the missile system do not require to fight against gravity to reach desired altitude level plus the variation of density of air.

Land launch Python 5 have a reduced range on SPYDER system
Land launch Derby have a reduced range on SPYDER system
Land launched AIM-120 AMRAAM have a reduced range on NASAMS

altitude being a deciding factor here is some infomation about aam's
Air-to-air missile non-comparison table

not sure about cruise missiles like BrahMos but atleast it can break the 300 km mark if air launched if land variant is believed to be 280 km.
It seems like the sub 300 km limit is as per marketing perceptive rather then capability perceptive.
Unlike Ballistic missiles, cruise missile are guided missiles like AAM, powers and guides the system till the last resort of positioning it to hit the target.

Brahmos will be fired at subsonic speeds. So, the range benefit won't be very large.

Other than that air launched Brahmos is 500Kg lighter than other variants. Perhaps there is reduced fuel as well.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Well I think their have been some violations by non signatories like Pakistan and China, but not in the daylight.

The striking similarity of some Chinese and Pakistani solid fuel rockets

You can also find the same violations between N. Korea and China and many more.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

There is Nothing like a Long range Brahmos II !! this is just a rumor being spread on Internet,Any JV With Russian on missile tech will have it's limitation.Yes there will be an Hypersonic Brahmos but range will be Limited.The Nirbhay will be a subsonic cruise Missile.

Livefist: LiveFist EXCLUSIVE: The Truth About BrahMos - Part V

BrahMos II Will be altogether a new Missile with new design.... ^^ this was revealed by shiv aroor earlier

Coming back to Long range Cruise Missile,the said development of supersonic LRCM with a range well over 1000 km is not officially acknowledged by DRDO until now.But they are developing an Hypersonic Scramjet Powered demonstrator which can applied on future cruise Missiles and a liquid-fuel ramjet Powered cruise Missile was also reveled by DRDO in a presentation.

This article says nothing about the range and gives misleading clues:

The business model for BrahMos-2 will be identical to BrahMos and will function under the already
incorporated BrahMos Aerospace Pvt Ltd.Scientists and project managers identified by both sides
are now in the process of finalising their techno-commercial proposal document.


^^implying a joint collaboration?