BrahMos mini-rocket may be adopted in 2017

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  1. happy

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    Work on a scaled-down version of BrahMos supersonic cruise missile co-produced by Russia and India is in the initial stage and the rocket may be phased into service in 2017, Dr. Sivathanu Pillai, CEO and MD of the BrahMos Aerospace Company, told Itar-Tass on Thursday.
    "In order to install a BrahMos rocket on board a fighter plane, it is essential to reduce the rocket's weight. A reduced version got the name of BrahMos-M (mini). After work on a detail design and an initial configuration of the rocket is completed, the development of the rocket proper will ensue," he pointed out.
    According to Dr. Pillai, since the project "is in its initial stage, it is difficult to tell when the rocket may be phased into service". "Nevertheless, we expect that it will be adopted in the range of 2017," Dr. Pillai added.
    The weight of a prospective rocket will be 1.5 tons and its length will be about six meters. It will be designed for Su-30MKI and MiG-29 fighter planes. However, it will be also fit for other operational combat aircraft or those set to be adopted by the Air Force of India, including Rafale and Mirage-2000 aircraft.
    The first launch of an aviation version of BrahMos rocket (BrahMos-A) is slated for June 2014. A Su-30MKI fighter plane armed with it must be ready in September 2015. Only one BrahMos rocket can be mounted on it. In case of the manufacture of reduced versions of the rocket, the Su-30MKI will be able to carry three rockets and it will be possible to put two BrahMos-M rockets on a MiG-29.
    The Russo-Indian joint-venture enterprise BrahMos was established in 1998 and got its name in honour of the rivers Brahmaputra and Moskva. The Company is the technological partner of India's first naval and shipbuilding exhibition NAMEXPO-2013 held in the city of Kochi in the southern state of Kerala these days.

    BrahMos mini-rocket may be adopted in 2017 | Russia & India Report
     
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    nirranj Regular Member

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    No Brahmos for Tejas???
     
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    arnabmit Homo Communis Indus Senior Member

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    Tejas is a light fighter mainly meant for interceptor role. Expect it to carry only BVRAAMs and WVRAAMs

     
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    Ok...

    If Brahmos can be made lighter as 1.5 tonnes and 6 meter, cant tejas carry one with it and act as a Ground attack aircraft??

    considering that the MK2 will carry more (as per wiki at 5000 kg). Will it be possible to integrate brahmos (a more shorter and lighter one with reduced range) with Tejas?? considering we are importing Air to surface and Air to ship missiles wont it be a good option to downgrae the Brahmos's range and incorporate it with the Tejas, Naval LCA and Mig29K as well?
     
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    India to start work on ” Lighter BrahMos-M ”

    India to start work on ” Lighter BrahMos-M ”

    According to Media reports India and Russian ”BrahMos Aerospace” will start work on more Agile and lighter BrahMos missiles currently dubbed has BrahMos-M , The new missile will be ready in next two or three years and will be able to be carried by other fighter jets in current fleet of Indian air force .

    BrahMos-M will use most of the technology developed for BrahMos missiles but will be different in characters , new missile will only weight 1500 kg which will bring the missile to same class in terms of weight to other ALCM ( Air Launched Cruise Missiles ) , but due to MTCR restrictions range again will be limited to 290 km .

    New BrahMos-M can be used on IAF’s upgraded Mig-29 and Navies Mig-29k , there are plans to Integrate them into Mirage-2000 and Rafale in Future , India and Russia are currently working on BrahMos-A for Indian air force which could be launched from Sukhoi-30MKI. BrahMos-A will lose around 500 kg from the Land based version but it is still too heavy and Sukhoi-30 airframes have to be strengthen to carry extra weight of the missiles .

    BrahMos-A will only have few Sukhoi-30MKI has a launch platform since only few aircrafts will get strengthening of the airframes ,and each Sukhoi-30 will be able to carry only one BrahMos-A which also limits its availability . But each Sukhoi-30 will be able to carry 2 BrahMos-M .

    India to start work on ” Lighter BrahMos-M ” | idrw.org
     
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    Each Sukhoi-30MKI will be able to carry 2 or 3 BrahMos-M missiles? There seems to be a confusion about that.
     
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    Should be 3. The weight of Brahmos 3 will be 1.5 tonnes and mki carries 3 KAB1500L bombs which also weigh 1.5 tonnes.
     
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    No it can't. the capacity of largest pylon on Tejas is 1200L(Around 950 kg) whereas as you said, Brahmos 3 will weigh much more. I don't think even mk2 will have a pylon capable of carrying it. Now there will no more brahmos with a smaller range for the simple reason that it is not required. Brahmos is an expensive precision strike tactical weapon useful for taking out higher value targets only. After mmrca induction, we will have around 500 aircraft in our inventory capable of carrying it. Next gen FGFA will be carrying it as well. Developing a new version of brahmos specifically for Tejas is absolutely useless in these circumstances.
     
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    Can the Brahmos-M be modified with a booster stage to replace the Klub missiles on the P28 and future P-28A corvettes?
     
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    @nirranj And of course, free-fall unguided bombs, cluster munitions, Paveway types, etc.
     
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    Got It, Thank You!!
     
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    But if mki is already carrying 1.5 ton bomb them what's the need of airforce strengthening ?

    bit confusing.
     
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    What do you mean by airforce strengthening?
     
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    Stregthening of airframe of MKI is mainly for Brahmos-A version, it will be around 500 kg less from the Land based version but it is still too heavy and Sukhoi-30 airframes have to be strengthen to carry extra weight of the missiles
     
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    sorry that was auto correct, I meant to say air frame strengthening.
     
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    Ok. Answer to your question has been provided in post #14.

    There are two versions of air launched Brahmos. One is commonly called Brahmos A which is basically booster less version of Brahmos 1. It weighs 2.5 tonnes and requires airframe strengthening of mki. Only two squadrons of the Flanker will be equipped with this version.

    Second is what the article is talking about. A new version Brahmos, known as Brahmos 3/Brahmos m, which will be much lighter at 1.5 tonnes. It does not require any airframe strengthening and is expected to see fleet wide inductions.
     
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    Air launched Nirbhay was also in development maybe a good alternative with greater range.
     
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    Technically the range would be less IMHO.

    Same range is based on Brahmos being surface-launched and Brahmos-Mini being air-launched.

    If both were launched from the surface, Brahmos-Mini would have lower range.
     

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