Book claims Congress took US money; party rubbishes charge

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    Book claims Congress took US money; party rubbishes charge


    An allegation that the Congress party took money from the United States during the Indira Gandhi era has been made in a book to be released on Tuesday, but the party dismissed the charge as 'unsubstantiated and malicious'.
    The allegation is contained in the book which is a collection of personal letters and journal entries of former US Senator and Ambassador to India, late Daniel Patrick Moynihan. It is edited by Steven R Weisman, public policy fellow at Washington-based Peterson Institute.

    Moynihan, who was Washington's envoy to India during the crucial years of 1973 to 1975, refers to the then US Secretary of State Henry Kissinger's meeting with Prime Minister Indira Gandhi on October 28, 1974 in New Delhi.

    In his journal entry, the Ambassador says Kissinger had met the Indian leader alone, except for a few moments when her Principal Secretary P.N. Dhar was present. "What exactly went on I shall never know, but evidently it went well enough...", he writes.

    Moynihan nevertheless records that Gandhi began by saying that she assumed that Kissinger wanted to talk about the nuclear explosion conducted by India in May of that year.

    "He (Kissinger) said yes, he wanted to talk about the bomb.

    India had one now...its interest is now to see that others do not get one."

    "Turning to CIA he (Kissinger) said that the United States supported the Congress party. (A fact she must know, in the past having taken our money. He would know that she would know that he would know this)," he writes in the entry.

    It is not clear from the book titled "Daniel Patrick Moynihan; A Portrait in Letter of an American Visionary" what is the basis of the Ambassador's account of the Gandhi-Kissinger meeting since he himself records that he was not present. At one point he uses the expression 'if I surmise correctly' about the exchanges between the two leaders.

    Asked about the allegation, Congress spokesman Manish Tiwari said in New Delhi, "36 years later if somebody decides to write a book, which contains unsubstantiated, derogatory and malicious inferences we will not not like to dignify it with a comment."
     
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    Offcourse it will be an attempt to malign the Congress party. Bofors and now this allegation is only to Malign the congress party . They are already richest party in the country and they donot need anymore money. But question is that what is the source of that money. If their know bank balance makes them richest in India I wonder if we consider their black money account they will be top 10 globally. After all scandal involving sukhram was just a glimpse of congress party black money.
     
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    We all know this is bollocks since yanks were anti-India and we all know what kissinger thought of indira ghandi.
     
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    Krishna Menon, it is said was funded by the KGB!
     
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    Well, I do not believe Congress would have taken even a penny form the US during Indira Gandhi's reign; nonetheless, one must throw caution in the winds when giving a clean chit to Congress, especially after the ruckus regarding the Congress having taken money from US and/or US companies to fund the horse-trading in the Lok Sabha in order to ensure that PM Dr. Manmohan Singh and his government survives the No-Confidence Motion after the Left pulled the plug from the government.
     
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    The Mitrokhin Archive II: The KGB and the World

    The Special Relationship with India

    Within Nehru's Congress Party government the KGB set out to cultivate its leading left-wing
    firebrand and Nehru's close adviser, Krishna Menon, who became Minister of Defense in 1957
    after spending most of the previous decade as, successively, Indian High Commissioner in
    London and representative at the United Nations........

    In May 1962 the Soviet Presidium (which under Khrushchev replaced the Politburo) authorized
    the KGB residency in New Delhi to conduct active-measures operations designed to strengthen
    Menon's position in India and enhance his personal popularity.......

    Following the rout of Indian forces by the Chinese, Nehru reluctantly dismissed
    him on 31 October. A fortnight later, the Presidium authorized active measures by the Delhi
    residency, including secret finance for a newspaper which supported Menon, in a forlorn attempt
    to resuscitate his political career.19 Though similar active measures by the KGB in Menon's
    favour before the 1967 election20 also had little observable effect, a secret message to Menon
    from the CPSU Central Committee (probably sent by its International Department) expressed
    appreciation for his positive attitude to the Soviet Union.....


    The above links is an interesting one to read.

    One, however, should use one's own judgement.
     
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    There is enough money in India itself to finance such events! We dont need donors when it comes to Politics, and the Bellary Company and the others are testament that, we are richer than any, when it comes to such issues!
     
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    Thats why Boforse and other arms deal scandals came into picture? There is no limit to greed of people .
     
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    There is enough money in Swiss Banks.

    Money is not kept in India.

    It can be traced!

    The IPL bugger's muddle and the front companies and stakeholders should give an indication!

    The interesting issue that one would like to know is who finances the BJP, the Mulayams, Lalloos and Maywatis.

    Apart from the Sugar coops, who foots Pawar?
     
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    Yeah! Greed, which makes people make scams out of the coffins for our own dead soldiers fighting for our motherland! :( Sad, the way of Politics!
     
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    Right now iam seeing the greatest amount of money flowing in south india all puree black money
     
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    Thats coz you are here :) Black Money is flowing in all over India I feel, uniformly!
     
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    ahmed from what i see north has nowhere the moolah. Thats present in hyd,madras or banglore. Delhi may be a exception,but these three states are in a different league.Southies don't even boast there wealth
     
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    Cong leaders caught on camera haggling over rally funds

    Maharashtra Congress chief Manikrao Thakre is in trouble for his reported conversation with party leader Satish Chaturvedi over the collection of money for the Sevagram rally to be addressed by Congress chief Sonia Gandhi on Friday. The rally is being organised as part of the celebrations to commemorate the 125th anniversary of the party’s foundation. Sevagram in Wardha district has been chosen the venue for the rally as Mahatma Gandhi had stayed there in the 1930s during the freedom struggle.
    Thakre and Chaturvedi, a former minister, were caught on camera discussing the fund collection for making the arrangements for the rally. The two leaders reportedly made some critical remarks against state Chief Minister Ashok Chavan.

    Though the episode has embarrassed the party, it is not going to cast any shadow on the rally. “The rally is on. Soniaji is coming to address the meeting. There’s great enthusiasm among the people,” state party spokesperson Hussain Dalwai said.

    But the episode has given Thakre’s detractors a handle to attack him with redoubled vigour and the calls for his removal as CM have grown louder.

    Sections within the faction-ridden state unit, especially those owing allegiance to former chief minister Vilasrao Deshmukh and state Revenue Minister Narayan Rane, have already upped the ante against Thakre.

    “He should be replaced immediately. The party has suffered a lot during his tenure and the factions have grown,” a leader close to Deshmukh camp said.

    But Thakre camp is unmoved. “These are frustrated and defeated people. Some of them have been badly defeated in the last polls. They take out their frustration by attacking Thakre,” said one of his close aides.

    Thakre along with other state unit chiefs are likely to be replaced during the organisational restructuring that will be completed before the All India Congress Committee session in Delhi on November 2.

    During the visit, Gandhi is going to send a strong message to the warring groups to close ranks and work for strengthening the party so that it can contest the 2014 assembly polls on its own. The differences between the two factions had surfaced during the recent organisational polls in the state.
     
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    Book says it and now Mainkbhau proves that it is part of the game!

    The rubbish should not rubbish what is not rubbish.

    I am sure Manish Tiwari will have some contrived tripe to dish out, now that old Abhishek whatever his name has been muzzled so that his bark and bite does not try the public patience. Notwithstanding, it was wonderful to hear him since of the nine minutes of hog time, he spewed adjectives for 8 minutes with junk in the remainder. That way Chaturvedi and Nawab Saheb Khurshed were at least to the point.

    Young Gandhi can send any message that he likes, but then the likes of those receiving the message like money more than what young Gandhi likes!

    Young Gandhi born in 1970 is the youth of India. Damned old youth India has! Maybe so, if at the age of 70, it is taken that the youth has just bloomed into middle age!

    By that token, Advani has just crossed the Rubicon of youth and entered middle age?
     
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    No Men is holy. Everyone is greed and Ego-centric. We people are talking about the funds like this. But think of us when we are in the same position, seeing tons and tons of money? Who wanna be a pure soul by then :emot180:
     
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    Not surprising in the least..it would be shocking if someone came out with a report that Congress does not have any blood money in their kitty.
     

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