Blacks will never be equal in White America

[pmaitra]

@atheisthindu, this thread involves blacks and whites (and hispanics as well).

It's about skin colour, if you look closely.

Your comments in another thread (link below) bear testimony to a lot of things:
http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/...-indians-ignorant-about-demographics-j-k.html

 

[PredictablyMalicious]

@atheisthindu, this thread involves blacks and whites (and hispanics as well).

It's about skin colour, if you look closely.

Your comments in another thread (link below) bear testimony to a lot of things:
http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/...-indians-ignorant-about-demographics-j-k.html

Yes? Not sure what that has to do with this thread. Black people have suffered a tremendous amount in American history. That is an undeniable fact.

 

[civfanatic]

I just prayed to Thor, he has ordered me to tell you to read up on the Vikings.

There's no need to look that far back, one can find instances of colonial exploitation by Scandinavians in much more recent times. For example, the Danes owned slave plantations in the Caribbean, alongside Britain and France. A good book on the subject:

Slave Society In The Danish West Indies: St Thomas, St Thomas And St Croix - Google Books

 

[pmaitra]

Yes? Not sure what that has to do with this thread. Black people have suffered a tremendous amount in American history. That is an undeniable fact.

Since you are not sure what that has to do with this thread, here is the answer - skin colour.

 

[Razor]

There's no need to look that far back, one can find instances of colonial exploitation by Scandinavians in much more recent times. For example, the Danes owned slave plantations in the Caribbean, alongside Britain and France. A good book on the subject:

Slave Society In The Danish West Indies: St Thomas, St Thomas And St Croix - Google Books

Thanks, I meant start reading from the Viking part of history.
And the reason they weren't top notch exploiters is probably because they did not have the resources to compete with Britain, Spain & France. Not because they were naturally merciful people. It's a dog eat dog world out there, you gotta do what it takes. As simple as that.

 

[PredictablyMalicious]

Since you are not sure what that has to do with this thread, here is the answer - skin colour.

Are you drunk on Moonshine?

 

[civfanatic]

USA is far inferior to Scandinavian nations, in pretty every parameter used to measure quality of life. And their histories are not as disgusting as that of America, Britain or France. Thanks for proving my point.

I repeat, America = the sh!thole of the developed world.

Good job diverting the point.

You mentioned that blacks and Native Americans had suffered during American history, and America has not offered "reparations" to them (not sure how that would work, but whatever). But America has at least offered formal apologies for its involvement in these events, while Denmark has yet to apologize for its involvement in the African slave trade:

Denmark cannot apologise for slave trade | ScienceNordic

And no, America is not a shithole. No developed country can be considered a "shithole". Have you ever even been to America?

 

[civfanatic]

Thanks, I meant start reading from the Viking part of history.
And the reason they weren't top notch exploiters is probably because they did not have the resources to compete with Britain, Spain & France. Not because they were naturally merciful people. It's a dog eat dog world out there, you gotta do what it takes. As simple as that.

Exactly. Even the English were hardly major exploiters until they become a major world power and acquired overseas colonies.

 

[pmaitra]

Thanks, I meant start reading from the Viking part of history.
And the reason they weren't top notch exploiters is probably because they did not have the resources to compete with Britain, Spain & France. Not because they were naturally merciful people. It's a dog eat dog world out there, you gotta do what it takes. As simple as that.

Exactly.

No race or ethnicity can be assumed to be naturally merciful or naturally vengeful.

I don't even want to get started on the ethnic cleansing of Indians in Uganda.

 

[PredictablyMalicious]

Good job diverting the point.

You mentioned that blacks and Native Americans had suffered during American history, and America has not offered "reparations" to them (not sure how that would work, but whatever). But America has at least offered formal apologies for its involvement in these events, while Denmark has yet to apologize for its involvement in the African slave trade:

Denmark cannot apologise for slave trade | ScienceNordic

And no, America is not a shithole. No developed country can be considered a "shithole". Have you ever even been to America?

Did Denkmark enslave on the same scale as Americans and with the same degree of brutality? And what does an apology do? There needs to be real monetary consequences.

 

[Razor]

Exactly.

No race or ethnicity can be assumed to be naturally merciful or naturally vengeful.

I don't even want to get started on the ethnic cleansing of Indians in Uganda.

Same here, coz it would eventually become a black vs. white or whatever, thread.
All humans are racist to a certain degree, it is, in a way, natural to prefer ones own people. But what bugs is when people assume Africans are never racist and are always the victims. A lot of people also overlook that a lot Blacks in the US just booze away and live on other people's tax money.

16-00-07-17

 

[PredictablyMalicious]

Good job diverting the point.

You mentioned that blacks and Native Americans had suffered during American history, and America has not offered "reparations" to them (not sure how that would work, but whatever). But America has at least offered formal apologies for its involvement in these events, while Denmark has yet to apologize for its involvement in the African slave trade:

Denmark cannot apologise for slave trade | ScienceNordic

And no, America is not a shithole. No developed country can be considered a "shithole". Have you ever even been to America?

Ofcourse America is a sh!thole. It is a shithole, despite being a developed nation. When your citizens cannot even get treated because they don't have health insurance, you know, your nation despite being one of the wealthiest, is a shithole.

 

[PredictablyMalicious]

Good job diverting the point.

You mentioned that blacks and Native Americans had suffered during American history, and America has not offered "reparations" to them (not sure how that would work, but whatever). But America has at least offered formal apologies for its involvement in these events, while Denmark has yet to apologize for its involvement in the African slave trade:

Denmark cannot apologise for slave trade | ScienceNordic

And no, America is not a shithole. No developed country can be considered a "shithole". Have you ever even been to America?

You are making a strawman argument. I never argued that any nation is good and only America is evil. All I'm saying is that the US has one of the bloodier histories in the world. Its foundations are built on the backs of Blacks who were exploited ruthlessly and considered sub humans even until the middle of the 20th century.
My second point is that, the US, compared to other developed nations lacks in providing facilities to its people and thus can be considered, a shithole among the developed world.

 

[pmaitra]

Same here, coz it would eventually become a black vs. white or whatever, thread.
All humans are racist to a certain degree, it is, in a way, natural to prefer ones own people. But what bugs is when people assume Africans are never racist and are always the victims. A lot of people also overlook that a lot Blacks in the US just booze away and live on other people's tax money.

16-00-07-17

You are correct, and I'd be perfectly fine if they were only to booze away, but a good number of them don't restrict themselves to boozing away, but are young men ambitious to become each a Gangsta, as they like to call themselves, and get involved in violent crimes.

 

[pmaitra]

LA Riots

LA Riots 2013: George Zimmerman protesters riot in Los Angeles, CA - YouTube

 

[parijataka]

It has been argued that one reason why Europeans advanced ahead of the rest of the world, is because they came from a continent that was ravaged by frequent and destructive wars which forced European states to either innovate and adapt, or die. European states were the quickest to adopt foreign technologies that they found useful (like gunpowder) and improved upon them, because they had a great need to do so. They also pursued foreign policies that were especially exploitative and ruthless, something which became more apparent when the Europeans acquired overseas colonies. All this led to a "weeding out" of smaller, weaker European states, and their replacement by more powerful and more centralized European states which became the forerunners of modern nation-states.

In India, the opposite was true, with the consequence that most of northern India was easily conquered in a few decades by the Turks.

I am thinking it is the cold climate that made them more active, the Caucasian people ??? There was a revolution in Russia in 1917 when the poor were starving while the rich and royals lived it up. In the bitter cold of Russia a person without proper food and shelter is sure to die. Whereas in tropical climates poor can scrounge around in shanties and survive. India IMO with so much poverty would never have a revolution like Russia.

As for India being invaded by Turks - Turks, Arabs and Persians coming from relatively hostile lands were looking to expand and India was a prize with its fertile lands and many rivers.

 

[pmaitra]

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[trackwhack]

Since you are not sure what that has to do with this thread, here is the answer - skin colour.

Kindly keep your policing out of this thread pm. There are intelligent individuals having a discussion that has everything to do with the initial topic. Don't muddle every thread with moderation that's not necessary.

Back on topic, today's news, hot off the press, the education infrastructure available to the lower 70% of american public is shit. The excuse of blacks not wanting to be in school is also total BS. Its just convenient for the whites to keep the blacks and Hispanics dumbed down.

The Indian population is different because our immigration to the us involved largely skilled labour who could afford to put their kids in good schools.

 

[W.G.Ewald]

The Department of Justice (federal government) is pursuing Zimmerman even after his acquittal by a jury in the State of Florida, and the news media are hounding the members of the jury. The ruling class must have its accusation of racism brought to fruition by any means necessary. That is not justice, it is the revenge of the racemongers.

Strange, though, that non-whites flock to this racist country from all over the world...

 

[W.G.Ewald]

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