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  1. ejazr

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    BJP wins some, loses some: BIG blow to Hindutva politics - Rediff.com India News

    Tuesday's results have given the Bharatiya Janata Party [ Images ] has every reason to smile, but to win the 2014 Lok Sabha battle, it has to improve its position in Uttar Pradesh [ Images ], says Neena Vyas

    The Bharatiya Janata Party may have emerged as the dark horse in Uttar Pradesh on Tuesday, but the one message that has come out loud and clear from the election results for the legislative assembly is the death of the party's Hindutva politics based ideologically on pitting Hindus against Muslims.

    While the party has much to celebrate from the results: it has been able to beat anti-incumbency in Punjab [ Images ] along with its ally the Shiromani Akali Dal [ Images ], wrest Goa [ Images ] from the clutches of corruption and illegal mining scandals during the just-ended Congress tenure, and is hanging on by a thread in Uttarakhand [ Images ] where it may have saved its government by replacing the corruption-tainted chief minister Ramesh Pokhriyal, it was in Uttar Pradesh where its stakes were the highest, given its 'weight' in terms of parliamentary seats that will matter in the larger electoral battle for power at the Centre due in 2014.

    Importantly, it was in Uttar Pradesh where the BJP launched its major ideological Hindutva battle and successfully polarised votes along Hindu-Muslim lines in the 1990 when it would routinely annexe over 50 of the total 80 parliamentary seats in the state.

    Through the Ram temple movement it was able to get a government of its own in the early nineties and, yet, after the demolition of the Babri Masjid [ Images ] in 1992, and especially after its most influential backward-caste face, Kalyan Singh [ Images ], left the party, it has steadily gone down the hill.

    The BJP leadership knows too well that if it is to win the 2014 Lok Sabha battle, it has to improve its position in UP. This it has singularly failed to do. While even in this election political pundits have repeatedly talked about the Muslim vote and the race between Mulayam Singh Yadav [ Images ], Mayawati [ Images ] and the Congress for this block, not many have commented on the failure of BJP's kamandal politics that was unleashed in 1989 through the Ram temple movement. Even in this election senior party leader L.K. Advani promised to build a Ram temple.

    The result: the BJP is struggling to match its 2007 performance when it garnered 17 per cent of the vote and won 51 seats.

    The media focus is on the failure of Congress's Rahul Gandhi [ Images ] to change the fortunes of his party in this state, but the fact remains a dozen or more national level leaders of the BJP campaigned extensively in UP and failed to increase the party's vote share. The hard fact is that in UP, the two national parties were not seen as real alternatives as they were not seen as possible ruling parties, fighting as they were only for the third and fourth places.

    The anger against Mulayam Singh Yadav's Samajwadi Party turned into a huge advantage for Mayawati's Bahujan Samaj Party in 2007 and the reverse has happened in this election. The SP and the BSP have remained on the ground in the state throughout the last five years, while the Congress and BJP leaders are seen as birds of passage visible only when an election was around the corner.

    In Uttarakhand, the BJP's campaign got an additional boost from yoga guru Ramdev who had always been in the party's camp and his anger against the Congress heightened after the humiliation he suffered when he had to run away from the Ramlila maidan a year ago. His foray into politics was a disaster but he was working overtime against the Congress. The BJP was also helped by Team Anna with Chief Minister B C Khanduri -- who has lost the election -- quickly adopting his Jan Lokpal Bill.

    The Congress has cut a sorry figure not being able to take advantage of the anti-incumbency factor against the BJP.

    Overall, while the results have offered no solace to the Congress -- it has lost a government in Goa and has not been able to annexe Uttarakhand or Punjab from the BJP and its allies -- it cannot draw too much solace. It was banking on doing much better in UP, and that has not happened. While the voting percentages will come in later, the number of seats it is getting is somewhere around 40 from the 22 it won in 2007.

    In Punjab too, although the Akali-BJP alliance has got a majority and, the BJP itself has dropped seven seats from 2007 -- down to 12 from its earlier tally of 19 -- and its vote share has lowered.

    In fact, it would seem that not only has the Congress cut a sorry figure in this election, the BJP has not done much better -- with the exception of Goa, where individuals change parties and loyalties more often than they change their clothes. And of course, the party was helped by the fact that its chief ministerial probable, Manohar Parrikar [ Images ], enjoys a clean image.

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    Not just polarizing Hindu votes, but polarizing Muslim votes did not work either as well. Salman Khursheed who had famously and cynically wanted to hang himself had to see his wife come 4th. In Azamgarh where the Congress shed crocodile tears on the plight of youth being arrested or the Batla house controversy, they drew a blank as well. Similarly, BJP who had pledged to build a Ram temple lost the very constituency where the temple is to be built - Ayodhya and their aggressive campaign to polarise Hindus against Muslim on misrepresenting the quota issue led to have less vote share and seats than 2007.

    Goa, the state where the BJP won decisively it ran an inclusive election campaign giving tickets to Catholics rather than playing identity politics and was rewarded handsomely. If BJP can learn the lessons of Goa (and Bihar), it will realise that Hindus themselves will not fall for identity politics any more now, and pitting minorities against majorities will not pay. Elections after elections are showing that development and INCLUSIVE poitics will win you seats even from minority communities. You just have to INCLUDE them in the govt. and ticket distribution.

    All in all congragulations to all the winners and also to the ECI for conducting such a massive exercise
     
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    Urg, another media BS. BJP has not done very bad considering that they bagged Goa and Punjab(for the first time after 35 years ruling party wins the election) and finished third in UP and nearly equalled the CONs in Uttarakhand...

    CONs heve been given a bloody nose everywhere except Uk and Manipur.. But this stupid media has to involve BJP's failure... Sometimes i feel these news papers are owned by the CONs:frusty::frusty:
     
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    Te results should be disappointing for the BJP IMHO. In UP it has dropped a few seats. In Punjab and Uttarakhand it is neck and neck kind not a trouncing. All this considering all that has happened over the last couple of years and movements against the central govt ruling parties. BJP should have done much better.

    Actually saddened by what has happened esp in UP. 2014 will throw up bad results with goondas becoming king makers.

    God help the country.
     
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    Rediff is a pro-BJP media outlet like Daily Pioneer. Its making some honest assements about using the BJP version of the Hindutva plank which basically focusses on polarising votes on religions lines. So why the conspiracy theories? The fact is that both Congress and BJP did bad and both used this plank at different points in times. They myth that Muslims vote for Congress en bloc or for any party for that matter is again proven to be just that a myth.

    BJP saw its seats going down in every state except Goa. And Congress only won Manipur decisively although it did increase its seats and vote share in every state except Goa. It has performed worse than expected in every state except Manipur. There is a clear anti-national parties mood in this state elections. Although, it is fair to say that people tend to vote differently in state and national elections and no too much should be read into it.
     
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    conclusion whenever RSS OR ITS MEN took charge in bjp runs the show bjp lossoes and whenever som local leader bjp is allowed to run the show bjp wins

    so it would better if rss does what it does best instead of running poll campaing
     
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    Goa was won because of Manohar Parrikar's reputation for impeccable integrity and as efficient administrator in previous terms as CM. Parrikar became the first IITian(IIT Bombay engg graduate) to head a state govt in 2000, brought down by rebels and opposition later. Parrikar has the good will of both Hindus and catholics due to his personality. Congress otoh is riddled with persons mired in illegal mining allegations and fielded members of their own families.

    BJP still some great regional level leaders with local following in Modi, Shivraj Singh, Raman Singh, Uma Bharati, Manohar Parrikar. So definitely will do well in long run.
     
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    No Sir what i am mad about is that they focus more on the negative aspects... Any way thanks for the info:)
     
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    In Uttar Pradesh BJP did not have leaders. Uma Bharati, a charismatic lady who defeated Digvijaya ji in MP, was brought in rather late in the day. I don't know if RSScomes in here.
     
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    The media projects its opinion depending upon which party they align with.

    Pioneer is with the BJP, while NDTV, Hindustan Times. Outlook and many others are with the Congress.

    One has to be intelligent enough to read between the lines.

    2014 may prove to be a surprise for all!

    Who knows Miss Mayawati may become the PM

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    And all those Ills which thou so long hast mourn'd;
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    Nor Hell a Fury, like a Woman scorn'd.
     
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    Everyone has seen Congress's dictatorship with Anna and Ramdev, and Muslims already doesn't vote to BJP, then only two parties remained BSP & SP, i think BSP has paid a price for their costly elephant statues, so this time Muslim vote went to SP.
     
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    dinesh trivedi of TMC just mentioned that mid term suits everybody. TMC, BJP, SP, AIADMK etc etc.
     
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    Had BJP got re-elected in UK, these would have been very good results for the BJP, and they missed it by a whisker. Neena Vyas' write up comes across selective because it just explores the reasons why BJP should have won and not the reasons why they should have never won, which were way too much over weighing on the reasons they should have won.

    Let us start with UK. One had to see the BJP unit in UK to know the kind of loot-fest they had got into with a serious image drubbing, there was stinking corruption all over. The Pokhrial faction of BJP was convinced that no way was BJP going to win so why not lose rather badly and make gen. Khanduri the fall guy. There was some serious infighting, with Pokhrial faction working against the BJP, the major reason why gen. Khanduri lost his seat. Was anna the factor, I have my serious doubts, with the way the corruption allegations were against the BJP, highly unlikely. Yes ramdev was, but how many were really influenced as a result, not many I suspect. BJP's best performance should have been no more than seats in early 20s at best, 31 suggests a very strong comeback.

    Let us take Punjab. There was no way possible that congress was losing this, no way. Congress did everything, they even went to dera sacha sauda chief to have his followers vote for them. Rahul kept going inbetween, and he along with Amarendar were absolutely certain that Punjab was cake walk. PPP with Manpreet Badal as its head was definite to eat into SAD-BJP's vote share, his party got some 5-6% vote share which is a very big number. There were serious corruption allegations against the SAD-BJP combine, just before the elections a big enough corruption scandal had been exposed in which a few BJP ministers came to limelight, and I think sacked. Anna effect, no way was it happening here.

    UP, yes, and here I agree BJP has had an absolute drubbing and they should have because when elections get fought on communal lines then the concerned parties should lose, but this bit of communal politics was started by the congress and BJP then fanned it.

    BJP has to realise that it needs to have a pro-development agenda because at the end that is what matters to the common man on the street, be that person of whatever faith, caste, tribe or whatever. Give the people a strong enough reason to vote for you, and this should go for every party concerned. India Shining was a flawed campaign because India was far from shining but to make India shining and make people realise how you can do it, should be the idea. Share ideas with people, tell them how will you change their lives. If parties have MLAs selected, then make sure that the MLA delivers. Approach politics as a sewa not as a mewa and then see you will never need to get communal in your approach.

    About general elections earlier than 2014, I remain of the opinion, no it is not happening. UPA II will complete its term and we could well see a very resurgent UPA much like what happened in 2009. I remain convinced, congress has in itself to form the next central government, and let us not forget, with every election perceptions change, until december '08 BJP should have won the general elections convincingly but it didnt, and congree still has good two years to redo the image makeover.

    I dont see any such resurgence of regional parties either, certainly not the third front.
     
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    sanjay joshi men imported form rss by nitin gadkhari another rss men who ran their show of own
     

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