BJP brings up issue of revoking Article 370

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  1. LETHALFORCE

    LETHALFORCE Moderator Moderator

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    http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_bjp-brings-up-issue-of-revoking-article-370_1485385

    BJP has revived its agenda by once again calling for abolishment of article 370 of the Constitution, under which Jammu and Kashmir (J&K) enjoys special status. BJP’s central office bearers, which met here on Thursday, unanimously passed the resolution.

    “Article 370 has worked against the interests of the people of the state. It has created a psychological barrier between the state and the rest of India. It has prevented investments, job creation and natural integration of the state with India on account of transfer of human population,” leader of the opposition in Rajya Sabha Arun Jaitely said.

    “It has given hope to the separatists that the political and constitutional relationship of the state with India could be terminated,” he added.

    The party also blamed successive Congress governments, particularly headed by the first prime minister Jawaharlal Nehru, for “the three monumental lapses that have resulted in the problems of J&K”.

    “Without realising the implications, our first government agreed to constitutionalise the separate status of J&K,” Jaitely said.

    Jaitley praised Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel for integrating all other states with India. “Sardar, in the three years he lived after Independence, succeeded in integrating all the states and they pose no challenge to India today. The only state for which Nehru took responsibility was J&K. His errors cost India dearly,” he said.

    On chief minister Omar Abdullah’s remarks that J&K had acceded not merged with India, Jaitely said J&K was an integral part of India and its merger was complete and irrevocable.
     
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  3. Tomcat

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    i loved that line
    it clearly echos what many nationalist indians have in mind nehru shall be dammed to hell for his part in the kashmir issue if only he had listened to the wise sardar and not gone to the UNO but nooooooooo his international crap
     
  4. S.A.T.A

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    History testifies that if it was not for Sardar India would have forfeited the Kingdom of Kashmir for good.Gen Cariappa received his order to land Indian infantry in the valley from Sardar.Pt Nehru, who was still oscillating between intervention and dialogue,pushed into a corner by sardar merely nodded acquiescence.

    Where is the question of bringing up the matter of abrogating Article 370,it has always been on the table.It should be done away with ASAP.
     
  5. hit&run

    hit&run Elite Member Elite Member

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    I wish BPJ could have done this when in Power.
     
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    Revoking article 370 is very necessary. But, I wonder why now that the Congress is in power BJP is raking up the issue. Not at all a good opposition, they could have done it when they were in power.
     
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    There's a lot of things BJP could have done when it was in power and in hindsight, you'll never run out of "things that BJP should have done in its tenure", but one has to realise that BJP enjoyed only one solid tenure, in recent times, and it already had a lot of issues to deal with. In that tenure, BJP-led government strengthened investor confidence in India, pwned Pakistan in a war, set the country on a growth path, and created 3 new states to improve sub-regional administrative efficiency.

    On the other hand, Congress has put the country in reverse gear since it came to power.
     
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    If India considers J&K as one of its state, it has to treat it like other states.
    No more special rules. Let the private entities invest in the state. Let the state be connected to the rest of the country.
    Enuff of this alienation and special status. Its high time to get serious.
     
  9. S.A.T.A

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    The Article 30 has been drafted in such away that even if the 2/3rd elected representatives vote to abrogate or replace the Article,The state of J&K can dismiss such a parliamentary dissolution on the basis that laws passed by the national parliament cannot apply to J&K unless the elected assembly of the state also concurs.

    BJP or NDA simply didn't have the required numbers to even contemplate beginning the process to abrogating it.
     
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    Sam Manekshaw, the first field marshal in the Indian army, was at the ringside of events when Independent India was being formed. Then a colonel, he was chosen to accompany V P Menon on his historic mission to Kashmir. This is his version of that journey and its aftermath, as recorded in an interview with Prem Shankar Jha.

    At about 2.30 in the afternoon, General Sir Roy Bucher walked into my room and said, 'Eh, you, go and pick up your toothbrush. You are going to Srinagar with V P Menon. The flight will take off at about 4 o'clock'. I said, 'why me, sir?'

    'Because we are worried about the military situation. V P Menon is going there to get the accession from the Maharaja and Mahajan.' I flew in with V P Menon in a Dakota. Wing Commander Dewan, who was then squadron leader Dewan, was also there. But his job did not have anything to with assessing the military situation. He was sent by the Air Force because it was the Air Force which was flying us in.'

    Since I was in the Directorate of Military Operations, and was responsible for current operations all over India, West Frontier, the Punjab, and elsewhere, I knew what the situation in Kashmir was. I knew that the tribesmen had come in - initially only the tribesmen - supported by the Pakistanis.

    Fortunately for us, and for Kashmir, they were busy raiding, raping all along. In Baramulla they killed Colonel D O T Dykes. Dykes and I were of the same seniority. We did our first year's attachment with the Royal Scots in Lahore, way back in 1934-5. Tom went to the Sikh regiment. I went to the Frontier Force regiment. We'd lost contact with each other. He'd become a lieutenant colonel. I'd become a full colonel.

    Tom and his wife were holidaying in Baramulla when the tribesmen killed them.

    The Maharaja's forces were 50 per cent Muslim and 50 per cent Dogra.

    The Muslim elements had revolted and joined the Pakistani forces. This was the broad military situation. The tribesmen were believed to be about 7 to 9 kilometers from Srinagar. I was sent into get the precise military situation. The army knew that if we had to send soldiers, we would have to fly them in. Therefore, a few days before, we had made arrangements for aircraft and for soldiers to be ready.

    But we couldn't fly them in until the state of Kashmir had acceded to India. From the political side, Sardar Patel and V P Menon had been dealing with Mahajan and the Maharaja, and the idea was that V.P Menon would get the Accession, I would bring back the military appreciation and report to the government. The troops were already at the airport, ready to be flown in. Air Chief Marshall Elmhurst was the air chief and he had made arrangements for the aircraft from civil and military sources.

    Anyway, we were flown in. We went to Srinagar. We went to the palace. I have never seen such disorganisation in my life. The Maharaja was running about from one room to the other. I have never seen so much jewellery in my life --- pearl necklaces, ruby things, lying in one room; packing here, there, everywhere. There was a convoy of vehicles.

    The Maharaja was coming out of one room, and going into another saying, 'Alright, if India doesn't help, I will go and join my troops and fight (it) out'.

    I couldn't restrain myself, and said, 'That will raise their morale sir'. Eventually, I also got the military situation from everybody around us, asking what the hell was happening, and discovered that the tribesmen were about seven or nine kilometres from what was then that horrible little airfield.

    V P Menon was in the meantime discussing with Mahajan and the Maharaja. Eventually the Maharaja signed the accession papers and we flew back in the Dakota late at night. There were no night facilities, and the people who were helping us to fly back, to light the airfield, were Sheikh Abdullah, Kasimsahib, Sadiqsahib, Bakshi Ghulam Mohammed, D P Dhar with pine torches, and we flew back to Delhi. I can't remember the exact time. It must have been 3 o'clock or 4 o'clock in the morning.

    (On arriving at Delhi) the first thing I did was to go and report to Sir Roy Bucher. He said, 'Eh, you, go and shave and clean up. There is a cabinet meeting at 9 o'clock. I will pick you up and take you there.' So I went home, shaved, dressed, etc. and Roy Bucher picked me up, and we went to the cabinet meeting.

    The cabinet meeting was presided by Mountbatten. There was Jawaharlal Nehru, there was Sardar Patel, there was Sardar Baldev Singh. There were other ministers whom I did not know and did not want to know, because I had nothing to do with them. Sardar Baldev Singh I knew because he was the minister for defence, and I knew Sardar Patel, because Patel would insist that V P Menon take me with him to the various states.

    Almost every morning the Sardar would sent for V P, H M Patel and myself. While Maniben (Patel's daughter and de facto secretary) would sit cross-legged with a Parker fountain pen taking notes, Patel would say, 'V P, I want Baroda. Take him with you.' I was the bogeyman. So I got to know the Sardar very well.

    At the morning meeting he handed over the (Accession) thing. Mountbatten turned around and said, ' come on Manekji (He called me Manekji instead of Manekshaw), what is the military situation?' I gave him the military situation, and told him that unless we flew in troops immediately, we would have lost Srinagar, because going by road would take days, and once the tribesmen got to the airport and Srinagar, we couldn't fly troops in. Everything was ready at the airport.

    As usual Nehru talked about the United Nations, Russia, Africa, God almighty, everybody, until Sardar Patel lost his temper. He said, 'Jawaharlal, do you want Kashmir, or do you want to give it away'. He (Nehru) said,' Of course, I want Kashmir (emphasis in original). Then he (Patel) said 'Please give your orders'. And before he could say anything Sardar Patel turned to me and said, 'You have got your orders'.

    I walked out, and we started flying in troops at about 11 o'clock or 12 o'clock. I think it was the Sikh regiment under Ranjit Rai that was the first lot to be flown in. And then we continued flying troops in. That is all I know about what happened. Then all the fighting took place. I became a brigadier, and became director of military operations and also if you will see the first signal to be signed ordering the cease-fire on 1 January (1949) had been signed by Colonel Manekshaw on behalf of C-in-C India, General Sir Roy Bucher. That must be lying in the Military Operations Directorate.

    http://www.rediff.com/freedom/0710jha.htm
     
  11. Soorya Dhanush

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    Then it would mean ,if revocation of article 370 happens then there wont be a separate citizenship for them.
     
  12. JBH22

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    Dear BJP sometimes u people leave me amazed

    1- When NDA was in power why the article 370 was not removed.
    2- Why was the Henderson-Brooks committee report not released

    Agreed the UPA is an utter failure but then give assurance that NDA won't be same sh!t....
     
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  13. KS

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    NC was a part of NDA then..Maybe that explains that. Though I am not suggesting that it is right. Article 370 needs to go.


    p.s: Personally though I think it's too late after seeing the storm after the Amarnath land allocation.
     
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