Billions From India - Billions to Pakistan - How does US justify this ?

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  1. A.V.

    A.V. New Member

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    The us president bragged about 10 B worth of deals and at the same time in the last decade more than that amount have been pumped into pakistan in the name of terror fight strengthening their nuclear weapons delivery fighters and the navy for the so called terror war

    will the 10 billion benefit the real US people or be pumped back to the subcontinent , pakistan is laughing its way back and we are jumping at the obama visit

    how much of this is true ?

    your opinions ?
     
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  3. LETHALFORCE

    LETHALFORCE Moderator Moderator

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    Roughly 35 billion+ dollars have been given to Pakistan in the name of the war on terror. Anything bought from USA can be gifted to Pakistan later or info can be given about it. US sells weapons to India with many conditions, meanwhile Pakistan has claimed to alter HARPOONS and try to alter F-16's to deliver nukes with no comments from the state department. When it comes to weapons US has the most high tech weapons to offer but unless our leaders have the guts to speak up about this point, same pattern will continue.
     
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  4. plugwater

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    Its all business for US. We are needed for selling weapons and jobs in USA, Pakistan for fighting in war on terror. We can do nothing about it, until we develop our own weapon systems we have to suck it up for whatever money or weapons US providing for Pakistan.
     
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    its more like "Billions From China - Billions to Pakistan ", we in india tend to give too much importance to the dollars india hands out to the US when those in the larger context dont add up to much. its all good for a propaganda, but the reality is far from it.

    china has like 850b usd worth of US bonds, now thats whats called billions that matter, not the 10b usd worth of goods/technology we just bought!
     
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  6. nrj

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    US is not bound to justify what it does with its Global Policy. They have their own way of dealing Regional agendas & Global challenges. One like it or not, India needs US in one or many platforms as till this moment. GOI or Indians shouldn't be giving importance if Pakistan is laughing or crying. They have their balls frying on all fronts of International stage. Its very foundation of nation is no longer laughable but filthy. Reactions of such entity towards a globally respected nation like India are futile.

    Our US talks/deals are power-game politics & negotiations simultaneously, which WILL involve compromises. Like Manc pointed out correctly, there is no point in whipping unless we are independent in Defense & high-tech systems. US hold the power & is a rich skank of its own class. Deal with it.
     
  7. LETHALFORCE

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    If we continue to buy will we continue to pursue our own indigenous development?? will some programs be halted by the politicians who have the attitude we bought it we don't need these programs anymore?? This can have an impact in everyone of our indigenous programs and has even worst consequences for our BMD programs.
     
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    It won't kill the In-House programs but will turn them into JV. Defense off-set & new policies will not be broken that easily. Its time for Indian Private players to take the charge (although it won't happen overnight) & mostly how DRDO & other PSUs deal with the JVs & central Gov pressure. Defense ministry needs to be in hand of a bold, recreational & neat patriot. Hard stand of such lobby will bend the power holding South Block lazies.
     
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  9. Shredder

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    Till now what all equipment have we purchased from the US without ToT and other conditions put by the US?

    Only solution is to develop the technology or rely on good old Russia for sophisticated hardware, main reason the purchasing is happening is because of kickbacks.
     
  10. bengalraider

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    I believe it was president Eisenhower of the United States who once famously said "Beware of the Military Industrial Complex".The fact of the matter is Money matters and we are using our money to buy a slice of the american military industrial complex, look at it as a long term investment . slowly but surely we are becoming an indispensable customer to Global american giants like Boeing and GE we may not realize it yet but every C-130 that's painted with an indian flag brings with it lobbying power in washington. As Europe Disarms we are poised to take it's place as the second largest buyer of american hardware and conversly the second largest recipient of the lobbying power of the military industrial complex in the halls of the pentagon. when the head honchos of these firms recognize us as an important customer they'll pull strings to make sure their stuff gets to us. i Don't feel that the billions we pour into america are going to waste not at all!
     
  11. rcscwc

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    US need not justify it. Our Yuvaraja has done it for them. If Hindu terrorism is more dangerous than muslim terrorism, then why should USA worry about terror in India?
     

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