Biharis? Bangladeshis? or Pakistanis?

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    Biharis? Bangladeshis? or Pakistanis?
    Stateless and Identityless people.


    They are Hindi-Urdu speaking Muslims, and descendants thereof, who moved from Bihar to East Pakistan or East Bengal during Partition of 1947. During the Bengali Language revolution and the subsequent Bangladesh Liberation War, they sided with West Pakistan. They enjoyed the protection of Pakistani government and collaborated with them, and are also referred to as Razakars.

    Pakistan eventually surrendered, and while the Indian Army was protecting the Pakistani PoWs, the Mukti-Bahini cadres publicly executed many of these Razakars.

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    Some survived.

    Of them, some escaped to southern Assam to save themselves from the Mukti-Bahini cadres, who at that time, were well armed and full of vengeance. Some were restricted to camps, like the Geneva Camp in Dhaka.

    The current generation has nothing to do with the Bangladesh Liberation War. Pakistan refuses to take them. Those that moved into India are called Bangladeshis by Indians. Those that remained in Bangladesh are called Biharis by Bangladeshis.

    They are state-less, right-less, future-less.

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    Every second Pakistan refuses to take them in, they (predominantly the Pakjabis) betray the vision/fantasy of Jinnah as Pakistan being the homeland of subcontinental Muslims and also the Ummat...and indulge in ethno-nationalism that is prohibited in Quran.

    No true Pakistanis , no true Muslims..
     
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    Well, I even asked my Bangladeshi friend that the current generation should not suffer for whatever their ancestors did. He shot back saying they are lucky they are at least alive in Bangladesh. He said that if Pakistan government did not care for them despite them being loyal to Pakistan, why should Bangladesh government care?
     
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    Why would the Pakjabis care when they even treat the resident Mohajirs as only Indians and not equal Pakistanis..lol....If Jinnah was alive today the Pakjabis would also call him an Indian stooge..
     
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    Pakistan is a basket case. They have too many identities, and therefore, no identity at all. They a confused lot led by megalomaniac leaders who think they can rule over South Asia with an utterly incapable and shameless army, that can only claim some success when killing unarmed civilians.
     
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    hasan nissar claims he was deliberately killed by pakis...he said how can ambulance of nations founder suddenly stop midway ?
     
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    More details from this source: Geneva Camp - YouTube

     
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    Good riddance..:cool:

    Else Pakistan might have genuinely developed.
     
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    I have to agree with your friend over that. It must be added that even this new generation, wherever they may be, are more loyal to Pakis than to Bangladesh and/or India.
     
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    Perhaps not. If Pakistan had developed, there would have been something to build a hope upon for the people, there would have been jobs, and something to lose in case of war. There would have been less Pakistanis readily available for Jihad and less Pakistanis inclined for war.

    Right now, they have no hope, no future, no sense of direction - frustrated youth, who take solace in religion and are exploited by the Wahhabi financiers from Saudi.

    If you think deeply, at the end of the day, all those who are dying are not the Arabs, but people of Asia, mainly South Asia, who all have a common ancestry.

    This is one reason I tend to have a pro-Iran line whenever there is some Arab-Persian rivalry. Culturally, linguistically, genetically, they are closer to us anyways.
     
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    Sorry I dont share your optimism.....I believe Pakistan was a failed case right from the get go.

    The one and only advantage of creation of Pakistan is that all the troublesome elements were lumped together and put in a separate country with no affliation of responsibility of India...a malignant tumor was cut away from the body of Bharat.
     
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    Some of the Razaakars have slipped into Bihar, their erstwhile home!

    They are an unique lot.

    Na ghar ka, na ghat ka!

    Despised by the East, Rejected by the West,
    They stand as monuments to Jinnah's chicanery in undivided India
     
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    Actually no. This is a classic case of having your cake and eating it too. These bastards unleashed hell on the Direct action day, escaped their sorry arses to East Poakistan, where they indulged in looting, plunder and rape. When shafted by Mukti Bahini, they escaped to the country that they forsake a quarter of a century ago, because they were fully aware that there would be no repercussions for their crimes in the land of the "politically correct" sadomasochists.

    Despite everything, they continue to be virulent Pakis and anti-India and yet are allowed to get away with their repugnant actions. Their very presence in India after all that has happened, is a living testimony to our failure on a daily basis.
     
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    They have also been shafted by the Assamese natives:

    Read more: Nellie massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
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    Quoted for the truth.

    Sometimes we take everything be it secularism, democracy to the extreme, irrespective of the ground reality that it actually becomes counter productive.
     
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    True. Yet they have gone from strength to strength in Assam and Bengal. So much so that parties like AUDF have emerged as kingmakers. They wrought destruction on this land not so long ago and yet their actions have been left unchecked, unpunished and ominously encouraged.

    It seems that we Indians are destined to never learn from the past and keep getting shafted again and again.
     
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    Mukti-Bahini troops holding Sterling SMG supplied by India.

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    Mukti-Bahini troops holding FN-FAL Clone or SLR, and other rifles, supplied by India.
     
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    Shunned by India
    Despised by Bangladesh
    The Razakaars stand as living monuments
    Of ancient invaders' adultery in India.
     
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    They are not shunned by India. They are apparently thriving in Assam.
     
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    True. Those that remained in BD, are living in Geneva Camps, while those that escaped to Assam, are politically vocal, and like to raise the Pakistani Flag once in a while, apart from creating mischief. India needs to give them the stick and confine them to similar Geneva Camps ASAP.
     
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