Bharat Swabhiman Andolan

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    Bharat Swabhimaan Aandolan



    We all know where corruption has put our country and where we might have been had corruption in politics was not there. It certainly was not easy to bring the disparate peoples of this vast country onto a common platform for a common cause that was in everybody's interests, be they Hindu, Muslim, Christian, or Sikh, in earlier times, but today thanks to the Internet and the computer and perhaps TV too, such efforts at bringing together millions for a common cause can be possible.
    The only requirement, and it is a big one, is the person spearheading it must be seen and accepted widely as honest and truly dedicated to that single cause. Baba Ramdev might just be the right man for this right job.


    I would discuss here the points baba ramdev is rasing....."

    http://www.bharat-swabhiman.com/forum/

    Plz do watch Aastha and Sanskar channel daily from 8 pm-10pm to keep update with Bharat Swabhiman Andolan and to know more about it.


    i wanna give some information about Bharat Swabhiman Andolan.
    its a nationwide movement started by Baba Ramdev against corruption and the ill policies of this present government.
    People like Dalai Lama, Kiran Bedi, Sri Ravishankar etc. have already joined Baba ramdev in this mission.
    Baba Ramdev has made it public that his party will contest elections in 2014 on all 550 seats.
    some of his prime objectives are-
    1. to get back our 400 B$ of black money deposited in swiss banks(majority of this money belongs to Gandhis). all we need to do get this black money from outside is just one resolution in the parliament. This resolution will be passed right on the first day if Baba ji come into power. Do u know India's GDP can become 5 times to that of US's GDP within 5 years, if only we get our black money back.

    2. Complete Indianization of Indian system, our educational system, our health system, our judicial system, our Police and Defense forces etc. the system that we follow today was setup by Britishers, and our aim is to change that system and implement a complete Indian system.

    3. To make a law giving death sentence for corruption and rapes.

    And finally our aim is to make India world's strongest economic power by 2020.

    there are many other objectives too, u can watch aastha channel daily from 8pm-9pm to know daily updates about this mission.

    We do not have much time left now, this is the last opportunity for us patriotic Indians. If we failed this time, then it would be too late for us.
    We cant let these corrupt politicians keep looting our country.
    Im promoting this actively among all my frends and people known to me.
    and i would request you all to do the same. but before that u should educate ureself about this mission. plz watch aastha channel to get daily updates, and inform all ure frends to be a part of this, and make them promote it further to their frends.
    http://www.bharat-swabhiman.com/forum/
     
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    FIVE NATIONAL MYTHS AND THE REALITY - Bharat Swabhiman's View

    FIVE NATIONAL MYTHS AND THE REALITY
    1. India is a poor country,
    2. Only about 5% people pay tax in the nation,
    3. All people are dishonest,
    4. Corruption cannot be removed, only corruption will govern the nation,
    5. The nation’s progress and employment is not possible without foreign investment.
    The Fact
    It is a conspiracy run by some corrupt, dishonest and cunning people to spread these lies and false rumours . It is a conspiracy to develop self-languor amongst people that these lies and false figures have been circulated. On the basis of reality, true figures and theories, we present the facts in front of the citizens so that patriotic people may get together and unmask the corrupt people, and come forward to change the country and the country’s fate.

    1. India is a poor nation!....White Lie!
    Fact: India is the most powerful and richest nation in the world.
    This is a very big truth that people of most of the developed countries are weak but their leadership or law is very strong. Here, the people of the nation are strong but the leadership is cowardly, timid and corrupt and the law is weak. The total budget of local authorities, state governments and central government of India is Rs 20 lakh crore. And this Rs 20 lakh crore budget is there when corruption is in its peak everywhere in the nation. If corruption did not exist, the total budget of India could be Rs 35-40 lakh crore. You think, you decide, can the budget of a poor nation be so huge? The corrupt and dishonest people of the nation are intentionally portraying the nation poor. If the corruption, then not even one person in the country will remain unemployed or poor. People are kept unemployed, poor and illiterate as a conspiracy. This enables the corrupt administrators rule over the poor, unemployed, illiterate and insecure people according to their whims and run an autocracy in the name of democracy.


    2. Only about 5% of India’s people pay tax! …White Lie!
    Fact: Almost 100% people pay tax in India!
    Every Indian who puts on two garments to cover his body and uses 1-2 bars of soap in the year or wears shoes or sandals or goes to shops or the market and buys daily essential goods such as flour, salt, toothpaste, oil, spices, paper, pen, iron, cement, etc., pays duty in the form of VAT or excise on all these items.Even a common man definitely pays tax in one way or the other such as stamp duty, water tax, house tax, sewage tax, road tax, service tax, sale tax, etc. Thus, isn’t this a white lie that only 5% people pay tax! This myths and false rumours are spread in a conspiracy so that if some corrupt an` YOG SANDESH-ENGLISH ` 29 dishonest people rob the nation, then no voice is raised, so that when someone asks for an account of the tax money paid by these corrupt people, they are able to say,‘You do not even pay tax. Who are you to ask?’ This myth has been so deeply embedded in the hearts of the common people that they feel they do not have any contribution at all in the nation’s progress. While the truth is that each Indian has the right to ask the various systems of the nation, the authority of the nation, about the collected by the government through various taxes, money of the money that they have contributed for the progress of the nation. They have the right to ask, ‘What has happened to that money?’

    3. All people are dishonest!...The biggest conspiracy.
    Fact: In India, 99% of the common people are honest, or they want to live with honesty.
    This kind of lie that everyone is dishonest is spread because the illusion that everyone is dishonest becomes deeply engraved in the mind of a patriotic, honest person with character. Whereas the reality is that 99% of common Indians are honest or want to live with honesty while 99% of the representatives of the nation, that is almost 99% of the politicians, MPs, MLAs were dishonest.In order to hide their own dishonesty, these 99% corrupt and dishonest people have carried out this very big conspiracy by calling the 99% honest citizens of the nation dishonest and liars.The day these 99% sensitive, aware, patriotic and honest people unite together, these 1% dishonest people will be destroyed. And India will be called a nation of honest people, not dishonest people.

    4. Corruption can never be removed, only corruption will rule the nation!...Deep conspiracy!
    Resolution: Only honest, patriotic people will govern the nation.
    Only corrupt people will govern the nation- Even this lie is being told like a conspiracy with which honest, patriotic people are never able to come into authority and one corrupt person after the other sit in authority and mercilessly loot the nation. There are also honest, patriotic, educated and responsible people with character who are capable of excellently governing the nation without corruption. A simple question arises in everyone’s minds is it possible for good people with character to get together? Can patriots be given votes keeping patriotism above everything else? Can’t honest people become MPS, MLAs? The direct, complete and simple answer to this is there are patriotic people with character who are capable of leading the nation but the patriotic, honest people who would vote for them and bring them into power are not organized.
    The aim of Bharat Swabhiman is – to organize these patriotic people and by organizing them to bring patriotic, honest, sensitive, sincere people with character to the seat of authority.By organizing patriotic people, I will unveil the truth behind the myth that only corrupt people can rule over the nation. My resolution is that henceforth only patriotic people will govern the nation.

    5. The nation’s progress and employment is not possible without foreign investment!...Utter falsehood.
    Fact: If resources are 100% utilized then our nation will progress and there will not be any unemployment.
    This is also a projected lie in order to rob the nation and a conspiracy that without foreign investment our country will not progress. The truth is if the wealth of the nation is not destroyed by corruption is big enough to ensure that not even one person of the nation need not be hungry, poor or unemployed. If the wealth is not deposited in the hands of the dishonest people, and is invested in solid business and progress then there will be so much wealth coming into the nation that we will reach the status of being able to loan out money to other nations with interest. India will then be able to stand with pride as the biggest economic power in the world.
    Today the reality is that about Rs 70 lakh crores, money that has been stolen by some corrupt people, are deposited in foreign banks. And the corruption by the corrupt people continues. Reality is not that this country won’t be able to progress without foreign direct investment (FDI); truth is the day we bring back our stolen money from foreign banks, that day the world will not run. The world is running by our money stolen by corrupt, dishonest people. At the very least, the economic source of powerful nations like Switzerland comes from the corruption in our country."
     
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    "[SIZE=""5""]भारत स्वाभिमान के उद्देश्य एवं नीतियां[/SIZE]

    1. योग, प्राणायाम एवं आयुर्वेद की मदद से सभी नागरिकों को निरोगी बनाना । भारत देश की जनसंख्या इस समय 115 करोड़ है । भारत देश में गरीबी के कारण मात्र 35 प्रतिशत नागरिक ही अपना इलाज करा सकते हैं । बचे हुए 65 प्रतिशत नागरिकों के इलाज के लिए तो प्राणायाम और योग ही एक मात्र उपाय है । नागरिकों की जीवनशैली एवं खान-पान को आयुर्वेद के अनुसार ढालने पर ही एक स्वस्थ्य समाज की रचना हो सकती है ।

    2. भारत देश की वर्तमान शिक्षा व्यवस्था को बदलना । नई शिक्षा व्यवस्था में भारतीयता और संस्कार को आधार बनाना । हम सभी जानते हैं कि आज की भारतीय शिक्षा व्यवस्था अंग्रेजों की बनाई हुई है और अंग्रेजों की चलाई हुई है । सन 1840 में एक अंगे्रज अधिकारी टी. बी. मैकाले द्वारा तैयार किये गये प्रारूप के आधार पर भारत की आज की शिक्षा व्यवस्था का ढांचा खड़ा हुआ है । मैकाले ने भारत के नागरिकों को आत्मा से अंग्रेज और दिमाग से बाबू (क्लर्क) बनाने के लिए ये सारा ढांचा खड़ा किया था ।)

    ३- स्वदेशी से स्वावलंबी भारत का निर्माण । आज़ादी के 62 वर्षों के बाद भी हम भारतवासी विदेशी भाषा, विदेशी भूषा, विदेशी भोजन, विदेशी भाव, विदेशी भेषज (दवाएं) और विदेशी वस्तुओं का भरपूर उपयोग कर रहे हैं । इसके कारण देश का लाखों करोड़ों रूपया भारत से बाहर जा रहा है । पूरे देश में स्वदेशी का आग्रह भारतीय नागरिकों में पैदा हो इसके लिए आंदोलन करने की जरूरत है । अपने आत्म सम्मान को स्वदेशी के द्वारा ही पुनःजीवित किया जा सकता है ।

    4- भारत की ग्रामीण व्यवस्थाओं का सम्पूर्ण स्वावलम्बन । अंग्रेजों के आने के पहले भारत के सभी गांव पूर्णरूप से स्वावलम्बी थे । अंग्रेजों ने कई कानून बना कर भारत की ग्रामीण कृषी व्यवस्था, ग्रामीण अर्थव्यवस्था, ग्रामीण कारीगरी आदि को खत्म कर दिया । भारत की खेती अब विदेशी ज्ञान और तकनीकी पर आधारित हो गई है । जिसके चलते खेतों में यूरिया, डीएपी, सुपर फास्फेट और रासायनिक कीटनाशकों का ज़हर भर गया है । धरती की धमनियों में रासायनिक खाद और कीटनाशकों के ज़हर का इतना असर हुआ है कि हमारे भोजन में भी यह ज़हर पहुंच चुका है । हमारा खून तक ज़हरीला हो गया है । भारतीय माताओं का दूध भी ज़हरीला हो गया है । गांव में अर्थव्यवस्था के पूरी तरह से टूट जाने का दुष्परिणाम यह है कि रोज़गार के सभी अवसर गांवों में समाप्त हो रहे हैं । भारतीय नागरिक गांव से पलायन कर के शहरों की तरफ दौड़ रहे हैं । गांव खाली हो रहे हैं । शहरों में भीड़ बढ रही है, जो झुग्गी-झोपड़ियों और मलिन बस्तियों में रहने को मजबूर हैं । अतः भारत के गांवों में ऐसी व्यवस्थाएं खड़ी करनी होंगी जो हमारी धरती को रासायनिक खाद और कीटनाशकों के ज़हर से बचा सके और किसान की खेती को स्वावलम्बी बना सकें । गांवों की अर्थव्यवस्था का भी पुनःनिर्माण इस तरह से करना होगा कि रोज़गार के अवसर गांवों में ही विकसित हो सकें और धन का प्रवाह गांवों की ओर हो सके ।

    5- भारत में जल प्रबंधन को बेहतर और विकसित करना । भारत दुनिया का एक ऐसा देश है जिसकी जलवायु एवं मौसम सबसे अच्छा है । भारत में समय से मौसम आते हैं, समय से बारिश होती है और हमारे देश की जरूरत से ज्यादा होती है । फिर भी हमारे खेत, हमारे उद्योग और हम पानी से प्यासे हैं । बारिश का भरपूर पानी है जो बूंद-बूंद एकत्रित किया जा सकता है । हमें राष्ट्रीय स्तर पर ऐसी तकनीकी का उपयोग करना है जो यह कर सके ।

    6- हमारे जीवन में और पर्यावरण में स्वच्छता एवं शुद्धता को बढाना । (भारत के सभी शहर गंदगी के ढेर पर बैठ हुए हैं । उद्योगों से निकला हुआ कचरा और हमारी पश्चिमी जीवन शैली से निकला हुआ मलबा दोनों ने ही हमारे जीवन को नरक बना रखा है । इस कचरे और मलबे को ठिकाने लगाना ही पड़ेगा । इसके लिए कुछ तकनीक का उपयोग करके और लोगों की चेतना को बढा कर उनकी जीवन शैली का भारतीयकरण करना होगा । पिछले कुछ वर्षों में हमारे पेड़ और जंगल काफी खत्म हुए हैं । बिना पेड़ और जंगलों के जीवन दुष्कर है । इसलिए पेड़ों की संख्या बढा कर जंगलों को और अधिक विकसित करना बहुत जरूरी है । तभी पर्यावरण की शुद्धता बढेगी ।

    7 . भारत में राजनैतिक और आर्थिक भ्रष्टाचार को समाप्त करना और विदेशी बैंकों में जमा भारत के काले धन को वापस लाना । भारत दुनिया के भ्रष्टतम देशों में गिना जाता है । महान लोगों की धरती भारत के लिए यह शर्म की बात है । 1984 में किये गये एक अध्ययन के अनुसार भारत देश में विकास के ऊपर होने वाले खर्च का मात्र 15 प्रतिशत ही किसी गरीब तक पहुंचता है । इसका अर्थ है कि भारत में 85 प्रतिशत धन भ्रष्टाचार में समाप्त हो जाता है । इसके कारण ही भारत में गरीबी और बेरोज़गारी अपने चरम पर है । भारत के 84 करोड़ लोग प्रतिदिन 20 रूपये से कम पर अपना जीवन घसीट रहे हैं । इस भ्रष्टाचार के भस्मासुर को आज नहीं तो कल खत्म करना ही होगा । भारत में भ्रष्टाचार करके लूटा हुआ धन विदेशी बैंकों में जमा किया जा रहा है । स्विस बैंकों के एसोसिएशन के अनुसार भारत का लगभग 72 लाख 80 हजार करोड़ रूपया (72,80,000,000,००००) स्विस बैंकों में जमा है । इसके अतिरिक्त दुनिया के अन्य कई देशों में भी भारत का काला धन बिना किसी उपयोग के पड़ा हुआ है । इस धन को भारत में ला कर विकास कार्य तेजी से किया जा सकता है ।

    8. भारत की कर व्यवस्था में सुधार करना । भारत देश में अंग्रेजों के खिलाफ 1857 में पहली क्रांति हुई थी । इसके के बाद दूसरी कोई क्रांति अंग्रेजों के खिलाफ भारत में न हो इसके लिए अंग्रेजों ने कानून व्यवस्था बनाई । इस कानून व्यवस्था की मदद से और अधिक अत्याचार भारतवासियों पर किये गये । सन 1860 में भारतवासियों की आमदनी पर आयकर लगाया गया ताकि भारतवासी अपना अतिरिक्त धन क्रांतिकारियों को दान न दे सकें । भारतीय नागरिकों के उद्योगों पर उत्पाद कर इतना अधिक लगाया गया कि भारत के सामान अंग्रेजी सामान से अधिक मंहगे हों और बाज़ार में ना बिक सकें । इसी तरह के कई अन्य कर और लगाये गये । 15 अगस्त 1947 को अंग्रेजों के जाने के बाद इन कानूनों और करों की व्यवस्था वैसी की वैसी ही चल रही है तथा नये टैक्स कानूनों के कारण भारतवासियों की स्थिति बद से बदतर हुई है । भारत के नागरिकों पर कमरतोड़ मंहगाई का बोझ इसी टैक्स व्यवस्था के कारण है ।

    9. भारत की कानून व्यवस्था में सुधार करना । (अंग्रेजों ने भारत की गुलामी को स्थायी बनाने के लिए लगभग 34735 कानून बनाये थे । आजादी 62 सालों के बाद भी ये सभी कानून भारत में चल रहे हैं, इससे बड़ा दुर्भाग्य देश का और क्या होगा ? हमारे सभी क्रांतिकारी और शहीदों की शहादत इन्हीं अंग्रेजी काले कानूनों के कारण ही हुई थी । आजादी के बाद तो जल्दी से जल्दी इन कानूनों को समाप्त करने या बदलने का कार्य होना चाहिए । इन्हीं अंग्रेजी काले कानूनों के कारण भारतीय नागरिकों को न्याय नहीं मिलता । भारत की तमाम अदालतों में 3.5 करोड़ से ज्यादा मुकद्दमे चल रहे हैं । जिनमें 10 करोड़ से अधिक लोग अदालतों के चक्कर काट रहे हैं । न्याय का नहीं मिलना ही सबसे बड़ा अन्याय होता है ।

    10. प्रशासन और पुलिस व्यवस्था में सुधार । भारत की पूरी प्रशासनिक व्यवस्था (कार्यपालिका) अंग्रेजी कानून और पद्धति पर ही संचालित है । अंग्रेजों का प्रशासन भारतवासियों पर गुलामी के अत्याचार करने के लिए ही बना था । आज भी भारतवासी इसी प्रशासन के बोझ तले दबे हुए हैं । सन 1860 में अंग्रेजों ने इण्डियन पुलिस एक्ट और इण्डियन सिविल सर्विसेज़ एक्ट जैसे कई कानून बना कर पुलिस और प्रशासन को स्थापित किया । दुर्भाग्य से वही पुलिस और प्रशासनिक व्यवस्था भारत में आज भी चल रही है ।

    11। शतप्रतिशत मतदान । भारत में लोकतंत्र राजनीति का आधार है । मतदान इस लोकतंत्र की बुनियाद है । दुर्भाग्य से भारत में औसतन 50 प्रतिशत ही मतदान होता है । आधे से अधिक भारतवासी तो वोट ही नहीं डालते हैं । भारत में मान्यता प्राप्त एवं पंजीकृत राजनैतिक दलों की संख्या 48 से अधिक है । अतः भारत में बहुत कम वोट अंतर पर ही लोकसभा एवं विधानसभा के सदस्य चुन लिए जाते हैं । हमारे लोकतंत्र में अभी धन एवं गुण्डा शक्ति का बोलबाला है । चरित्रहीन, भ्रष्टाचारी एवं अपराधी किस्म के लोग चुन कर लोकसभा, विधानसभाओं एवं स्थानीय निकायों में पहुंच रहे हैं । शतप्रतिशत मतदान के द्वारा ही हमारा लोकतंत्र सफल हो सकता है .
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    http://indiaagainstcorruption.org/

    http://www.annahazare.org/
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arvind_Kejriwal
    http://www.rajivdixit.com/?p=321
    http://devinder-sharma.blogspot.com/
    http://haryanapolice.gov.in/pages/Biodata_BR_Lall.pdf


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    The most important objective of Bharat Swabhiman Andolan is to get our money from Swiss banks.
    It is estimated that around 400 billion US $ of indian black money is deposited in swiss banks, and around 100 b $ in India itself.

    All it takes to get this money back from Swiss banks is one resolution in parliament.
    India's GDP can exceed that of US's within 5 years, if only we got our money back.
     
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    I cannot think of any better platform for an ordinary citizen like me to actually serve for my motherland. so i chose this forum to tell my friends and all patriotic Indians about this revolution.
    Im doing my bit, and i want all my brothers here, to be a part of this revolution.
     
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    Bharat Swabhiman Yatra - 1st Nov.-2010


    भारत स्वाभिमान यात्रा १ नवम्बर २०१० (सादकपुर) बिजनौर, रामपुर उत्तरप्रदेश
     
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    Bharat Swabhiman Yatra - 2 Nov 2010



    भारत स्वाभिमान यात्रा २ नवम्बर २०१० (किच्छा, बाजपुर) ऊधमसिंहनगर, (बिलासपुर, मिलक
     
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    My initial views on Baba Ramdev’s movement
    On August 1, 2010, in Baba Ramdev, Call for action, FTI - leadership, team building, My political plans, by Sanjeev Sabhlok
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    I did not know anything about Baba Ramdev till I reached India in February earlier this year when I found him performing yoga on the TV. Soon after, I think in March, he announced a political movement called the Swabhiman Manch. My mother is a great fan of his! That tells me that he is striking a chord with many people in India.

    I strongly support his call for self-respect and ethical governance. He is also attributed to have said the following (I'm taking these quotations from the Facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/swami.ramdev?ref=ts – which is a fan page but the quotations it cites are apparently mostly borrowed from Yog Sandesh magazine: http://divyayoga.com/Yog-Sandesh-English-june.pdf ).

    1) "I can emphatically say that we are living in a fool's paradise. If a cat crosses your way or anybody sneezes we presume that some unfortunate incident will happen. If one sneezes, what is wrong in it? This is natural biological phenomena, nothing is adverse in it."

    2) "I'm not against technology. I want my country's capital and talent to be used with world's latest technology. I want to make globalisation and liberalization our strength, not weakness."

    This sounds promising.

    However, there are reported statements which cause some concern, such as:

    1) ‎"Corruption-free India is my solemn promise. Our campaign is not a result of spontaneous provocation or anger. By our valour and heroism, we would reconstruct a corruption-free, self-dependent and grand India."

    Of course, I have no issues with a corruption free India. But that doesn't require valour or heroism. It requires a deep understanding of public policy. Second, I'd be VERY concerned about any attempt to create a 'self-dependent' India. Self-reliance is good, self-sufficiency (or self-dependency?) is bad. Maybe this quotation has not been properly vetted by the Facebook group?

    2) "our main aim is just not to change the system but to bring an honest change within ourselves."

    I don't believe changing people is either possible or necessary in order to get wonderful outcomes. Human nature has NEVER changed for a million years and won't change just because some Baba somewhere wants it to change. He doesn't control our DNA. That has evolved over hundreds of thousands of years. Indeed, even his close associates will fleece him and take him for a big ride if he is not watchful! I already know of a true story where some of his associates behaved disrespectfully with people in Haridwar. When a whole political party is involved, he had better beware his own coterie – first of all! He can NEVER change them, leave alone change Indians. He can (and I can) change India but not Indians – or for that matter any other human being. We can change India through good policy, so that Indians are able to achieve their highest potential. He must therefore demonstrate SIGNIFICANT policy expertise before he attempts to launch a political movement.

    Policy compatibility
    It is not obvious from my very cursory reading of Baba's views whether he understands policy at all, particularly policies of freedom. Simply attracting good people (Question: does he have a system of checking who is good? This is a real problem in India today) won't create good outcomes. It could well go in the opposite direction (as happed with Nehru, a good man who ended up ruining India). Goodness is only a minimum requirement. Policy brilliance is absolutely crucial. Without policy brilliance he and his team will fail to deliver anything good for India, and may indeed take India backward.

    I'm not saying he doesn't have the policy expertise, simply that I need to verify it. The other day one of his fans contacted me asking me to view some videos here. I saw one of them and found it quite questionable. Instead of viewing videos, I'd prefer to read a systematic book written by him on policy matters, like my book Breaking Free of Nehru. If someone reading this can send me his policy thoughts, I'd appreciate that.

    Organisational functioning
    Second, I have many questions about the organisational structure, organisational culture, and style of Swabhiman Manch. I am a great believer in internal democracy and team work. Is his movement compatible with these basic ideas? In particular, we don't want any system that collapses when one person dies.

    Organisational funding
    Third, the Baba is very forthright about eliminating corruption, and bringing back money from Swiss accounts. That's excellent. I also need to know whether his organisation is as clean as it should be. In other words has his organisation EVER taken black money? Often (but not always) money given in cash is black money, i.e. undeclared income. We know that Indian temples (I'm assuming this applies to all denominations) happily take corrupt money, without vetting its source. Tirupati temple, in particular, gives special darshan to the most corrupt! The more you pay the quicker your darshan, I hear. Does that apply in the Baba's organisation even remotely? Has he consciously accepted even One Rupee of black money? I hope not, but I need to know. Whether we agree or disagree with income tax rates or income tax laws, we MUST comply with the laws and pay taxes. Not paying tax is a misdemeanour that I do not condone. I'm not saying this has even remotely happened in the case of Swabhiman Manch, but I need a clear assertion and confirmation of this fact.

    These are some initial thoughts. I've offered to a friend of his that I'm happy to spare my truly precious time to personally explain to him the policy solutions that India needs – and show him around Melbourne and explain what underpins the things he sees. Nothing happens by magic. Everything requires policy expertise, particularly economic policy expertise. That offer to spend my time explaining such things to him stands.

    I'm therefore interested in finding more about Baba Ramdev and, despite the scepticism about him displayed by at least a few people I know, I'm not yet ready to discard this option for reform in India without a more thorough exploration.
     
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    This andolan is much better than than Pub Bharo Andolan.
     
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    Yes, but the Pub Bharo Andolan also has its place and uses, don't you think?
     
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    What are its uses?

    What is its place in any society?
     

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