Beef exports and trafficking of Cattle

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  1. bhramos

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    CURRENT SITUATION IN INDIA-BANGLADESH BORDER ( via eMail)

    WE ARE SO HELPLESS !!!!

    About 50-60 Muslims from Bangladesh have now entered our border village Sutia and Bagangao to take the supply of smuggled cows. They have come crossing the Kudulia river. Now there is knee deep water. This is 4th intrusion within 3 months.

    No BSF. No police.

    In fact, last night too, 500 Bangladeshis entered for the same purpose. BSF jawans chased them to zero point of border. But the intruders retaliated with heavy brickbats. Some BSF jawans injured. But they cannot fire. There is strict order to BSF from govt. not to fire.

    Bangladeshis know this very well. So, they are taking advantage.

    Tonight BSF jawans are not coming to the spot because of their previous experience.

    (BSF is under Home dept, not MOD)

    Please inform to the competent authorities / central home dept asap.

    আনন্দবাজার পত্রিকা - জীবজগৎ ও পরিবেশ
     
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  3. Ray

    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    The cows will go across and the border defendants get injured because of orders from the cows that sit in Delhi.
     
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    interesting thing is that city-wise India's bovine population is decreasing but GoI figure always show increase in overall population. such a waste of resources. biogas is something we can get from them to lite hundreds of villages
     
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    Why BSF are not allowed to take action against against Illegal immigrants and smugglers ?? Height of cowardness. What we want to prove by allowing smuggling and illegal immigrants on large scale since long time ?? I am sure, No other country would have allowed such things. It happens only in India for some unknown and strange reason which i never understood. :frusty:
     
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    The Messiah Bow Before Me! Elite Member

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    Im pissed off because that beef belongs in my stomach :frusty:
     
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    Indian beef is from emaciated cow put to pasture.

    It is the most dangerous of flesh to be eaten.

    If one is to take beef, go for the Argentinian or the Australian variety.

    They are bred for the table!
     
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    The Messiah Bow Before Me! Elite Member

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    And how much do they :wof: ?
     
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    sukhish Senior Member Senior Member

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    I don't know, but this whole thing of slaughtering animals to feed humans, makes me sick to my stomach. specially cows. I mean born and brought as a vegetarian, I just don't like this kind of animal slaughter in mass. that's one reason I support Karnataka chief minister decision to ban slaughter of cows.
    I don't know how to educate people on this issue, till then I think ban is a good idea.
     
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    Shame on cowardly central govt. What is Mamata didi doing in WB? Sleeping?
     
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    Mamata is possibly overcome with concern and is alleviating the food shortage in Bangladesh! :rofl:
     
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    I think we should worry a bit more about starving humans than cows.

    If cows must go to Bangladesh, they must go through legal channels so that India can make a profit. However, all this overflowing tears about cows is rather sickening.

    If we were to respect all forms of life, we need to stop harvesting sugarcane for sugar, cutting trees for lumber and the list is long. Some, sadly, choose to feel sorry only for animals, little realising they consume so much vegetarian food that they are destroying more lives in the process.

    While one cow will feel many stomachs, way too many lives will have to be destroyed to get enough wheat to feed one person.

    I say, hail non-vegetarians!
     
  13. sukhish

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    what a ridiculous logic of comparing plants to animals. I have never seen a plant cry . go to the some muslim dominated areas in India, and see for yourself how animal life is respected. they are murdered by thousands during the festival seasons. for what crime ? , just to impress some unknown Allah GOD.
    I don't want to disrespect their feelings, but boy they need to find some other way of impressing the almighty. this cruel and insane slaughtering is just not defendable. India being the only country on this planet, where vegetarianism is practiced by good percentage of people. that is a very unique identity we have.
    also there is a saying " YOU ARE WHAT YOU EAT".
     
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    Nothing ridiculous. Plants are living organisms, just like animals.

    I need not go to any Muslim dominated area. I am Hindu, that too a non-vegetarian one and proudly so. Non-vegetarianism has got nothing to do with Hinduism. It is clearly stated in the scriptures (Upanishads) that everything, plants as well as animals, are provided for us humans by Lord Vishnu and we have every right to exploit and consume them. If you don't agree with this, I could stand upright and claim you are not a devout Hindu for being a vegetarian, but since I don't want to be judgmental, I will desist from that.

    I recommend you read the Mahabharata where Saint Agasthya attains enlightenment after seeing a butcher! You need that enlightenment as well.
     
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    I am not concerned about the cows, I am concerned about these illegal activities on our border, and the incapability of our armed border guards. Our Home Minister had promised to make BSF handicapped for the sake of better ties with Bangladesh.
     
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    Growing beef exports and trade hits India's sacred cow.

    Growing beef trade hits India's sacred cow
    By Arezou Rezvani, Benjamin Gottlieb and Elise Hennigan, for CNN
    April 19, 2012 -- Updated 0617 GMT (1417 HKT)

    The cow is regarded by Hindus as gau mata or maternal figure, and has had a long-standing central role in India's religious rituals. The cow is regarded by Hindus as gau mata, or maternal figure, and has had a long-standing central role in India's religious rituals.


    New Delhi (CNN) -- When 33-year-old Ashoo Mongia visits the supermarket it's rarely for stocking up his fridge for the week. As head of a cow protection enforcement team, he regularly scours Delhi grocery stores and outdoor markets for food products containing cow beef.

    For the last 15 years, Mongia and his team of 120 Delhi-based volunteers have thrown themselves in a battle that pits India's billon-dollar meat industry and growing underground beef trade against Hindu traditionalists keen on preserving the holy status of cows.

    "The cow is our mother, it's our duty to protect her," said Mongia, who monitors and raids hundreds of stores, butcher shops and slaughterhouses suspected of carrying, selling or slaughtering India's blessed bovines. "We do this because we believe in what the cow represents in our country, our culture and in the Hindu religion."

    This year, India will displace the United States as the world's third largest beef exporter, behind Brazil and Australia. In just the first half of 2012, India exported $1.24 billion worth of meat, and a 30 percent growth in revenue from 2010 exports is projected by the end of the year, according to a U.S. Beef Export Federation study.

    While the bulk of Indian exports is buffalo meat bound for Middle East and Southeast Asian markets, the growing middle class in Arab countries has sparked a new craving for cow beef. The rise in demand could make India the world's king beef exporter by 2013, according to USDA estimates.

    But as India continues its struggle for economic and political dominance in South Asia, there is concern that Hindu-mandated bans on beef could hamper the industry's future growth, particularly in states like Kerala and West Bengal where the practice is legal.

    Relied on by generations of Indians for tilling fields, dairy products and dung fuel, the cow is regarded by Hindus as gau mata, or maternal figure, and has had a long-standing central role in India's religious rituals. Those religious attitudes, however, are viewed by some Indian business leaders as a major hindrance to commerce.
    India cuts rates in growth bid

    "Cow beef could be a very lucrative business in India," said Dr. S.K. Ranjhan, the director of Hind Agro Industries Limited, who believes that religious attitudes may stand to change once the extent of business opportunities are realized. "I think five-to-10 years from now, people won't be so scandalized by the sale of cow beef."
    U.S. missing out on India's boom?

    The majority of India's 24 states outlaw the slaughter of cows except under extenuating circumstances: to stifle contagious diseases, prevent pain and suffering, medical research, etc. And several states -- including Delhi and Rajasthan, among others -- ban the sale and slaughter of cows altogether.

    The strict laws against cow slaughter in the majority of India's provinces have forced the lucrative cow beef trade underground. An estimated 1.5 million cows, valued at up to $500 million, are smuggled out of India annually, which some analysts say provide more than 50% of beef consumed in neighboring Bangladesh.

    "When you consider just how much money is made from underground cow smuggling, it becomes clear that not only is there a huge amount at stake, but a huge demand that butchers and slaughterhouses are catering to," said Dr. Zarin Ahmad, a fellow at the Centre de Sciences Humaines in New Delhi, who has extensively studied the work and trade among India's butcher communities.

    Working with Mongia's enforcement team is Parmanand Mittal, a cow-advocacy lawyer who works from a home-office on the outskirts of Delhi. Throughout the day, Mittal fields a stream of phone calls -- tipsters who have caught wind of illegal slaughterhouses and owners of gau shalas, or cow sanctuaries, concerned with unexpected expenses associated with new rescues.

    In Mittal's office hangs a painting of Lord Krishna — one of the most revered divinities in Hinduism— with his arm resting affectionately on a white calf. While Mongia's crew breaks up the slaughterhouses, Mittal builds a legal case for prosecution. His backlog of casework extensive, Mittal says.

    While there might be money to be made from adding cow beef to current exports, India would incur costs elsewhere, Mittal says.

    "Cows have long been the source of fuel, manure and fertilizer, among other things. These animals are revered because they've played a large role in the welfare and livelihood of all Indians," Mittal said. "Take away the cow and the repercussions will be huge."

    Growing beef trade hits India's sacred cow - CNN.com
     
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    Isn't there a ban on cow meat exports from India? India is the third largest meat exporter and this refers mainly to buffalo, sheep, goat and other processed meat and earns forex for India in return. The ban on beef exports and imports still remains afaik.

    The most recent news report on a policy change was basically about a Planning commission recommendation on allowing beef exports, but they clarified later that cow was not included as part of the recommendations and the existing ban will hold.

    Business Line : Industry & Economy / Agri-biz : No plans to review ban on beef exports, says Plan panel
     
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    In southern Karnataka cows and calves being illegally transported to Kerala and caught at the borders is a regular feature. Apart from dried cow dung patties used as fuel, dung and urine as manure, bulls as draught animals and milk for human consumption, cow also has cultural and religious connotations for majority of Hindus, other than in Kerala and West Bengal where Hindus are in minority. NE States have traditionally eaten beef so that is not a problem for them.

    We have many persons making fun of the attachment of Hindus for cow. Consider that until last year, horse meat was not legal in USA. Or that people in Britain would be horrified at the though of eating dog or cat meat whereas it is a delicacy in many parts of the Far East. Most of the states have anti-cow slaughter laws passed in the days when Congress was in power and took cognisance of Hindu beliefs. Leaving aside religious beliefs, what will happen if cow slaughter is legalised. If the number of cattle is reduced due to slaughter will it lead to shortage of milk, will land be diverted from food grain production to pastures for the feeding the cattle, will there be a shortage of manure, will it lead to more fuel shortages for rural folk in case of lesser availability of cow dung patties. It is for a good reason I believe that Hindus value `gau mata` - other than that of course our elite likes to scoff at most Hindu beliefs.
     
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    Deep down Indians do love the British... even the sense of irony is spot on!
     
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    With the agrarian crisis going on in parts of India, its either the cattle that goes down or its owners:

    The Hindu : States / Karnataka : Distress sale of cattle on the rise in Raichur

     
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